Mulan: Disney thanks CCP agency administring concentration camp in credits

[Blastertoyo 22,734]

17 minutes ago, M Monstre said:

Like, the beginning with her as a little girl on the roof jumping down? God, I hated that  

They really thought they did something having her chase a chicken in the beginning and then having a Phoenix follow her...

except in chinese we have a saying that goes “mountain/wild chicken turning into a Phoenix” 

which roughly translates to someone not deserving of what they’ve achieved 

pretty awkward 

[River 129,468]

Don't blame the messenger.

I learned that everyone is really afraid to do any cancel action against C hine and R....A , so it's just easy to blame an American company

[Chromatislaps 34,854]

1 hour ago, Karl said:

Not good but Disney didn't create the film solely, the director would have had the say in this, it's their artistic vision. No need to cancel Disney, they employ probably hundreds of thousands of people who would feel the impact of said "cancelling".  

Cancelling Disney in this case would be to boycot them: to not to go and watch this movie, which would be a clear message from consumers to Disney. And there is no other way to make our voices heard to Disney other then with money. I don't want my money to go to a company that is hypocrite as heck, they go woke in most of their movies (their mostly forced and cringe attempts in my opinon), and then cancel actors like Johnny Depp for his alleged abuse of Amber Heard. While that was clearly forged attempt at defaming Johnny Depp by Amber Heard which revealed in the recent courtcases. And then they set aside their morality when it comes to producing a movie like Mulan. They only care for big numbers and big money, regardless of human rights. 

1 hour ago, Karl said:

No need to cancel Disney, they employ probably hundreds of thousands of people who would feel the impact of said "cancelling".  

this has clearly been a mistake from the Disney top, and I feel sorry for the employees because they don't have a say on what project they want to work. I'm in the same industry, so I would feel the impact of that as well. But If I knew the company I worked for, credited the administrative agency of the concentration camps, I'd most likely try to look for another company.

[Chromatislaps 34,854]

21 minutes ago, River said:

Don't blame the messenger.

I learned that everyone is really afraid to do any cancel action against C hine and R....A , so it's just easy to blame an American company

the messenger? Honestly, Disney co-funded the project... if anything, they are very much complicit in indirectly endorsing the actions happening in China. Turning a blind eye is not gonna help either. If we want our freedom of speech and our human rights to remain intact, we need to stand up to their 1984 Orwellian practices.

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For those who want to know more about what’s been happening in Xinjiang

https://www.state.gov/ccpabuses

[gagaforgaga2010 131]

Disney is so large they contradict themselves. They own Fox ( including news), yet they hire Kaepernick and Jemele Hill for a pro BLM campaign. They're never going to be able to do anything without controversy unless they start consolidating. 

As for this movie, I think China has had a tremendous amount of influence over press and PR. I have always been of the opinion that the statements made by the leading actress were scripted and not her own. Were she to speak out, she'd probably be dead. As for the CCP credit, it was probably forced as well. 

[River 129,468]

6 minutes ago, Chromatislaps said:

the messenger? Honestly, Disney co-funded the project... if anything, they are very much complicit in indirectly endorsing the actions happening in China. Turning a blind eye is not gonna help either. If we want our freedom of speech and our human rights to remain intact, we need to stand up to their 1984 Orwellian practices.

They did an action that China requested so yeah they are the messenger, what they did is wrong, but to blame them is the easy part.

Wanna save the world? Act against the big bad wolf.

[ALGAYDO 35,692]

5 minutes ago, River said:

They did an action that China requested so yeah they are the messenger, what they did is wrong, but to blame them is the easy part.

Wanna save the world? Act against the big bad wolf.

Why can’t we act against both tho?

[RAMROD 118,281]

Just now, gagaforgaga2010 said:

They own Fox ( including news)

 

That is not correct.

Disney owns Fox movies and TV entities, but not FOX news groups ( Fox News, Fox Sports, the Fox Network, and Fox TV stations.), that is not part of the package when they purchased them.

Disney already owned  ABC for news,sports, and stuffs. Which why lots of Disney movies promo always started with interview on ABC morning show, GMA.

[River 129,468]

29 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said:

Why can’t we act against both tho?

because there is a common fear to cancel C hina, they are too strong, especially in the cyber field.

And tbh what is more important: a big company that gave a credit the CCP agency or a country that trying to take over the world?

They can do wtf they want because no one is doing anything..

[gagaforgaga2010 131]

53 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

 

That is not correct.

Disney owns Fox movies and TV entities, but not FOX news groups ( Fox News, Fox Sports, the Fox Network, and Fox TV stations.), that is not part of the package when they purchased them.

Disney already owned  ABC for news,sports, and stuffs. Which why lots of Disney movies promo always started with interview on ABC morning show, GMA.

That's good to know! I must have read see false information. I follow so many Disney news outlets, I must have read some false info somewhere. 

[Karl 3,586]

2 hours ago, MJHolland said:

So you're saying we can't hold anyone accountable? 

Comments like this are so frustrating. More sympathy for one of the world's largest corporations than for people being held in CONCENTRATION CAMPS. 

If "canceling" is how we can hold them accountable, let's f*cking do it 

What I'm trying to say, is that yes they need to be held accountable obviously, I don't have sympathy for the big wigs in charge, but for example the people who have worked on the film really hard who have nothing to do with the political situation. I get that Disney seems like a big faceless corporation but it's real people that work for the company that literally have nothing to do with the situation that would be affected. Obviously it's not Disney's fault that people are in concentration camps it's the Chinese government surely? We should cancel the person or people who made this particular decision, not a whole company employing millions of regular people who have nothing to do with it. 

[Gagaloo911 12,959]

Disgusting.

Hollywood is wayyyy to friendly with China and does essentially everything China demands.