The lack of evidence lockdowns worked is a world scandal

[Adakam 2]

Thats like saying DUI laws dont work because there are still drunk drivers on the street.

Or that airport security measures are not necessary because there havent been any plane hijacks since 9/11.

 

[MonsterPaws 2,745]

1 hour ago, Florin said:

And? She based her opinion on scientists, including a noble prize winner. 

It's funny to see how easy is for people to turn themself into science deniers just because the scientists dont agree with them. 

Feel free to post the entire article. No offense but I'm not subscribing to the Telegraph.

The general consensus is that the lockdown is meant to flatten the curve in order to keep the medical system from being overwhelmed, which varies BETWEEN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. In my country the medical system is doing alright but we've also been in lockdown for months. Including forced quarantine.

But people I know have been affected by COVID or affected by their colleagues getting COVID. If life had continued normally without taking precautions it's easy to conclude that more people would've contracted the coronavirus.

Anyway, countries have started easing lockdown measures anyway. So at this point Idk what you're argument is. If it's "the lockdowns were pointless" then I beg to differ. We'd have had much higher spikes of cases. If it's "the lockdowns should be removed" then I agree and it's what is happening anyway so this thread is pointless.

EDIT: Also, we can't understand the severity of COVID-19, the lockdowns, or the blow to the economy until at least a year from now. We need more data and time to actually come to ay concrete conclusions. Especially since the impact of the pandemic will continue to ripple over the next few years. So even if this article is to be believed, it's still based on estimates and informed predictions at best.

[Bt1 5,213]

15 minutes ago, Giorno Giovanna said:

no that's wrong, there's plenty of experts who DO say it was correct to go into lockdown

Those experts dont have any data to back their claims at the moment. They also ignore all the effects of the lockdowns. 

[Bt1 5,213]

8 minutes ago, Adakam said:

Thats like saying DUI laws dont work because there are still drunk drivers on the street.

Or that airport security measures are not necessary because there havent been any plane hijacks since 9/11.

 

What? 

Wasnt Georgia given free driver licenses because the restrictions made imposible to exam people? So it's the opposite of what you are trying to say.  the world is more dangerous now because of the effects of the restrictions. 

[Bt1 5,213]

1 hour ago, Jakkusan said:

Idiotic. The US could’ve prevented a huge amount of deaths with quicker and more efficient shutdowns. It’s dangerous and stupid to spread misinformation like this. 

What misinformation? It's an opinion based on some scientific studies and some scientists opinions. It's more than the lockdown supporters have to back their agenda. 

[AbraChromatica 339]

2 hours ago, Thats stupid Luv said:

We were in some of the strictest lockdown conditions in the world , acted early and we now only have 8 active cases and are back to normal. This is Bullshit Vivienne.

Same. Strict lockdown, quick action, only a handfull of deaths and now we are opening up again.

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

9 minutes ago, Florin said:

back their agenda

I wish you would stop phrasing this as if people wish to be on lock down permanently. People want to be safe and healthy. There is no agenda or conspiracy in here. People want to live. The only agenda that plays a significant role on lockdowns are corporates and billionaires wanting to use the middle class and the downtrodden to earn even more money than they already have.

[RahrahWitch 6,985]

I don't understand how anyone can deny that the Lockdowns were needed. If there were no Lockdowns majority of healthcare systems would have been overwhelmed and so much more people would have died.

It was the only option in flattening the curve since this virus spreads so easily and has an up to two week incubation period for it to spread unknown to the carrier. If everyone was going about their business It would have thrived and spread like wildfire thanks to its high infectious rate.

[KORG 4,756]

10 minutes ago, Florin said:

What misinformation? It's an opinion based on some scientific studies and some scientists opinions. It's more than the lockdown supporters have to back their agenda. 

AGENDA!

Do you have a transcript for the agenda? Minutes from the meetings?

It is not difficult to understand. The lockdown was necessary. Lives have been saved. Deaths are not "collateral damage". 

Lockdown were demanded by the public at large, mostly because people cannot be trusted to protect eachother with distancing measures because people are STUPID. We have seen this with all the people who have been breaching the lockdown. Some are beyond help, but protect those that have brains.

Honestly. I'm not sure what's so hard to understand.

[KORG 4,756]

10 minutes ago, Florin said:

What misinformation? It's an opinion based on some scientific studies and some scientists opinions. It's more than the lockdown supporters have to back their agenda. 

AGENDA!

Do you have a transcript for the agenda? Minutes from the meetings?

It is not difficult to understand. The lockdown was necessary. Lives have been saved. Deaths are not "collateral damage". 

Lockdown were demanded by the public at large, mostly because people cannot be trusted to protect eachother with distancing measures because people are STUPID. We have seen this with all the people who have been breaching the lockdown. Some are beyond help, but protect those that have brains.

Honestly. I'm not sure what's so hard to understand.

[Reginald 13,841]

 ngl I love seeing the same users get dragged over and over for posting ignorance

 

[NewUsername 11,793]

The main reason for the lockdown was to flatten the curve for the hospitals. and that DID work

[Bt1 5,213]

2 hours ago, DeanWinchester said:

I wish you would stop phrasing this as if people wish to be on lock down permanently. People want to be safe and healthy. There is no agenda or conspiracy in here. People want to live. The only agenda that plays a significant role on lockdowns are corporates and billionaires wanting to use the middle class and the downtrodden to earn even more money than they already have.

Who can in theory agree with a measure promoted by communist China, that lacks any scientific evidence that it works and yet destroys the economy, ignores human rights and has other disastrous effects? 

Well, it seems that people can agree with that when "people who want to be safe and healthy" are in fact "uninformed people driven by fear". 

It also happens to be a taboo to dont agree with the lockdown and ask questions. Look at how many replies here were something like : " it is dangerous to promote such an opinion". What? 

[Bt1 5,213]

2 hours ago, KORG said:

AGENDA!

Do you have a transcript for the agenda? Minutes from the meetings?

It is not difficult to understand. The lockdown was necessary. Lives have been saved. Deaths are not "collateral damage". 

Lockdown were demanded by the public at large, mostly because people cannot be trusted to protect eachother with distancing measures because people are STUPID. We have seen this with all the people who have been breaching the lockdown. Some are beyond help, but protect those that have brains.

Honestly. I'm not sure what's so hard to understand.

"Lives have been saved" - show me the data. 

I can already show u data on the effects of the lockdowns that resulted in deaths. 

[YaaaasGaga 6,119]

You did not just start a SCIENCE thread with the TORYGRAPH as the source