Hybrid AT 78 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Biden is the presumptive nominee, barring any statistically improbable event. Good thing is he's moving a little to the left by adopting Warren, Bernie and Pete's policies. Also, the sooner Sanders realizes he has no chance and helps unify the party the better, instead of dragging it for too long. Voters must move to the general election mode now to help focus on defeating Trump. "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocaine Heart 4,768 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 A lot of Americans are stupid tbh. In the middle of the biggest health crisis in almost a century, people don't see that they need a candidate that is actually offering options that will help the majority. We going to boo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatic Lover 868 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cocaine Heart said: A lot of Americans are stupid tbh. In the middle of the biggest health crisis in almost a century, people don't see that they need a candidate that is actually offering options that will help the majority. Only when it's too late, are people gonna acknowledge and appreciate Bernie. Unfortunately, it will be too late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid AT 78 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cocaine Heart said: A lot of Americans are stupid tbh. In the middle of the biggest health crisis in almost a century, people don't see that they need a candidate that is actually offering options that will help the majority. Or maybe they see he has not laid out enough details in his plans and how to achieve his policy outcomes? Why is it always the voters' fault? People need to stop blaming the voters, especially minority voters, who are rational and make pragmatic decisions based on who can defeat an incumbent as dangerous as Trump. Electing a self-avowed democratic socialist in the Trump era has consequences about downballot chances. "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, HybridAT said: Why is it always the voters' fault? Because the voters are the ones that make the decisions..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid AT 78 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, joannesrats said: Because the voters are the ones that make the decisions..... Okay? And? How does calling them "stupid" make sense? Maybe it would be better if their choices are respected, since they're making it heard loud and clear who *they* believe is the best choice. Maybe it could just be that they don't like the fact that he has no concrete plans to achieve the desired outcomes in a realistic way? Insulting their intelligence and their choices is not the right thing to do. Just a thought... "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocaine Heart 4,768 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, HybridAT said: Or maybe they see he has not laid out enough details in his plans and how to achieve his policy outcomes? Why is it always the voters' fault? People need to stop blaming the voters, especially minority voters, who are rational and make pragmatic decisions based on who can defeat an incumbent as dangerous as Trump. Electing a self-avowed democratic socialist in the Trump era has consequences about downballot chances. Omg. He has, so many times. Besides that, in his press speech last week. He detailed what needs to be done specially with regards to the Corona Virus. That would of helped lower and middle class people. This weaponizing of identity politics though is really over done. It started as since as Biden won SC and has snowballed into this. As Biden being some sort of voice for the minority. When he has activity voted and lobbied against them and the media borderline refuses to cover it. Buy anyway, good luck when the next debate is between Trump and Biden and Trump eats him alive. We going to boo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reginald 13,841 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I wish my generation cared more about politics. Last I saw Biden was polling at like 20% for millennials and gen z. I mean, Blue No Matter Who is nice, but it feels so careless to allow the rest of our lives be determined by individuals like Biden and Trump who truly dont give a s*** about us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen 5,430 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Cocaine Heart said: Buy anyway, good luck when the next debate is between Trump and Biden and Trump eats him alive. well hillary won all the debates against trump and still lost Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid AT 78 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cocaine Heart said: Omg. He has, so many times. Besides that, in his press speech last week. He detailed what needs to be done specially with regards to the Corona Virus. That would of helped lower and middle class people. This weaponizing of identity politics though is really over done. It started as since as Biden won SC and has snowballed into this. As Biden being some sort of voice for the minority. When he has activity voted and lobbied against them and the media borderline refuses to cover it. Buy anyway, good luck when the next debate is between Trump and Biden and Trump eats him alive. Maybe you don't know why they voted for him? If you don't have their lived experience, you shouldn't be speaking for them either. Biden has listened to these communities for decades. No single person is perfect. But it's about who listens and who learns. Bernie has demonstrated a lot of blind spots when it comes to race even recently. Voters can judge by themselves based on people's record. I found this pretty illuminating. You should give it a read. "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,613 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, HybridAT said: Maybe you don't know why they voted for him? If you don't have their lived experience, you shouldn't be speaking for them either. Biden has listened to these communities for decades. No single person is perfect. But it's about who listens and who learns. Bernie has demonstrated a lot of blind spots when it comes to race even recently. Voters can judge by themselves based on people's record. I found this pretty illuminating. You should give it a read. This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. The bar is so low for racism that they want to elect Biden because he did his job? Is this woman not aware that the only reason Biden was appointed VP was to bring in the votes of the more center-right racist whites who wouldn't vote for a black ballot? Bye chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid AT 78 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, littlepotter said: This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. The bar is so low for racism that they want to elect Biden because he did his job? Is this woman not aware that the only reason Biden was appointed VP was to bring in the votes of the more center-right racist whites who wouldn't vote for a black ballot? Bye Whatever their reasoning, you should respect it a little since they have that lived experience and you don't. And this is not the only way Biden has listened to the black community. He has had a deep relationship with them for decades. Be a little less dismissive and a little more human. "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, HybridAT said: Maybe you don't know why they voted for him? If you don't have their lived experience, you shouldn't be speaking for them either. Biden has listened to these communities for decades. No single person is perfect. But it's about who listens and who learns. Bernie has demonstrated a lot of blind spots when it comes to race even recently. Voters can judge by themselves based on people's record. I found this pretty illuminating. You should give it a read. Joe wasn't being a racist as far as we know so we must applaud him for this? The bar is so low for moderates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImTired 3,956 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Biden wiped the floor with Bernie. No comparison. Bernie talks a lot, and that's it. We've know since 2016. He's done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid AT 78 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, ImTired said: Biden wiped the floor with Bernie. No comparison. Bernie talks a lot, and that's it. We've know since 2016. He's done. Also, how you run a campaign is indicative of your potential WH administration. This is what his speechwriter posted today. I literally have no words for what a terrible look this is for his campaign. It's always blame-game and voter-shaming for them instead of accepting losses gracefully. Sigh. "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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