somechick 1 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Rod Laver Arena is a small arena and the Big Stage + Pit made the whole thing look like a small venue, remember it's not just about GA tickets being cut but also the bigger the space the stage takes in the GA the more Side Seating tickets will have to be cut because of visibility Rod Laver usually seats more than 12,000 though, so I kinda figured that the GA would make up for the seats being taken out. I mean I've been going to the tennis at RLA for 17 years and it never felt so small. hehe I went to the 4th Melb Gaga show and had seats fairly close to the back and I couldn't see her very well from there, so I hate to think what it'd be like in the nose bleeds in the US. Lucky I have GA for 3 of the 4 shows I'm going to (and the one that I have a seat for is not so bad). :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,196 Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 Think about it though....Madonna played mostly stadiums in Europe, but it's not like Gaga didn't play all arenas there (Stade de France, Twickenham, Aviva, Parken Stadium etc..), also they played a lot of the same arenas too (Palau Jordi, Ziggo Dome, etc..) then in North America they are both playing almost all arenas except Madonna had Yankee Stadium and Plains of Abraham. Gaga had the 2 South Africa stadium dates that Madonna didn't have, all of Asia/Australia that Madonna didn't touch and they both went on a Latin America leg that was exclusively stadiums (except Puerto Rico where Gaga did 2 arena dates). Yes Madonna pulled in less numbers than her previous tour but let's not act like Gaga didn't have more than enough opportunities to have far surpassed Madonna's attendance by now due to the Latin American leg. So yes I think it is fair to say that it evens things out because Gaga has played in many stadiums and same venues that Madonna has on this tour. Also, just because Madonna's tickets cost much more than Gaga's doesn't mean that they are overpriced. They are overpriced if people are not willing to pay for them, but seeing that she has been known for her high ticket prices and still manages to sell so many means that they are priced fairly. Just watch, if Gaga still manages to tour like she is for the next 10+ years she will be charging the exact same prices if not higher. I suppose, but Madonna's legendary status means that people are more likely to go to her show just because of who she is (there's a saying that you need to see Madonna live at least once in your life) and she's got a very successful touring record. The pressure was on her to get amazing figures and to end with similar attendances to Gaga is disappointing. And I meant that Madonna's tickets are overpriced for what you're getting. I certainly wouldn't pay money like that to see someone lipsynch and sing badly when they are actually singing. But yes, I entertain the possibility that if Gaga continues to have successful tours, she could charge similar prices in a few years. However, I'll think that the price is justified if she continues putting on a great live show complete with live singing, dancing and instrumentation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausofandrew 105 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Less than 300 tickets left for Vancouver (Ticketmaster + StabHub combined). 20 minutes till 1st opening act comes on stage. Another sold out show. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefJAGermanotta 2 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Remember when some reporters speculated that Gaga's box office scores weren't being updated every month as usual because she had majorly flopped and her label was trying to cover up her failure? Now, of course, Billboard and all the other souces who provide scores don't have bias towards anyone - they just print what scores they recieve with no cover-ups, no matter how bad the artist performed. Well, I'm really wondering if this is a rare instance of a cover-up case for Madonna's tour because box office scores for her final four dates haven't materialized yet. She did those shows practically a month ago and for some reason, when she got her final gross update, the final box office score stopped at Porto Alegre, even though Argentina and Chile should have been counted at the same time. It's weird, because we already know the final box office score from Pollstar - $296.1 million. Up to and including the final box office score, the gross is $284 million, with four more stadium dates still to be counted. That means that she only made $11.1 million from four stadiums, or $2.7 million per show, which is very embarassing, considering how much she's pulled from the other dates. Looks like Gaga wasn't the only one affected with poor sales in the region. I have no clue myself, but regardless of the numbers, the South American media was very negative about Madonna's treatment of fans especially in Santiago. Did not over 600 demanded refunds through their Government policy? That's really bad press. I think this would sour S. America for Madonna in the future. At the opposite extreme, S. American press was VERY positive towards Gaga's friendliness and amazing performance. Again, watching the media with only 5% knowledge of Spanish and 0% Portuguese, I can tell from the attitude of the fans the reporters interviewed as to which fans were disgusted and which ones were thrilled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefJAGermanotta 2 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 why do you even visit them?they are miserable and sad really:)dont give em views:)let them dissapear along with madonna next era:) Unless I need another eye exam, the photo looks completely packed? If not, please let me know since my exam is due April 2013, and I may need to move it up sooner than that. Paws down will unfortunately continue, since I don't think you need to pay to keep up a website? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefJAGermanotta 2 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I can be useful too.. i live in Brazil and Madonna's tickets for São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro were with 50% discount.. Madonna's average per show in são paulo was 4.200.000.. the same as Gaga... Madonna has sold 196.000 tickets in São Paulo last tour without discounts.. in this tour she has sold 84.000 tickets in São Paulo with discounts Hi netoschultz. Can you comment on Brazil's media reaction toward MDNA vs BTW ball tour? Sorry for beating a dead horse as I posted something similar about how it appears that Madonna had neg press due to treatment of fans, and Gaga very positive with an amazing show? This is what I gathered, though I don't know Spanish or Portuguese. Just curious to hear from a Brasilian as to what the true tea is! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansurf 0 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'm proud of gaga :cry: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
netoschultz 0 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) Hi netoschultz. Can you comment on Brazil's media reaction toward MDNA vs BTW ball tour? Sorry for beating a dead horse as I posted something similar about how it appears that Madonna had neg press due to treatment of fans, and Gaga very positive with an amazing show? This is what I gathered, though I don't know Spanish or Portuguese. Just curious to hear from a Brasilian as to what the true tea is! Well... Madonna's reviews weren't bad... but every single review that i've read... said that Sticky & Sweet Tour was better and they don't know what happened to Madonna in 4 years.. Reviews about Lady Gaga were great.. One said that she isn't a pop singer.. she is a rockstar and they've LOVED the way she treated their fans.. She is a lovely person and she is one of the biggest singers of our generation. Some good reviews about Gaga: http://entreteniment...famosidades-220 http://musica.uol.co...ltrapassado.htm http://www1.folha.uo...sao-paulo.shtml There are a lot of others.. i'm just lazy now.. LOL Edited January 13, 2013 by netoschultz Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin 6 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) I'm beginning to wonder if the Tacoma date has exceeded the number of ticket sales to merit a sell-out. There's so many left. :shocked: Edited January 13, 2013 by -blackjesus Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
netoschultz 0 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I suppose, but Madonna's legendary status means that people are more likely to go to her show just because of who she is (there's a saying that you need to see Madonna live at least once in your life) and she's got a very successful touring record. The pressure was on her to get amazing figures and to end with similar attendances to Gaga is disappointing. And I meant that Madonna's tickets are overpriced for what you're getting. I certainly wouldn't pay money like that to see someone lipsynch and sing badly when they are actually singing. But yes, I entertain the possibility that if Gaga continues to have successful tours, she could charge similar prices in a few years. However, I'll think that the price is justified if she continues putting on a great live show complete with live singing, dancing and instrumentation. Sorry for quote this.. but idk if you are here.. so at least it appers in your notifications.. Can you fix this? NORTH AMERICAN LEG JANUARY 11 - VANCOUVER - Rogers Arena - SOLD OUT - 19,000/19,000 (100%) JANUARY 12 - VANCOUVER - Rogers Arena - SOLD OUT - 19,000/19,000 (100%) The capacity for concerts is around 14.000-16.000 in Rogers Arena Can you fix this too? Total Gross: $67,200,000 The Total Gross for Asian Leg is 43,910,405 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefJAGermanotta 2 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Well... Madonna's reviews weren't bad... but every single review that i've read... said that Sticky & Sweet Tour was better and they don't know what happened to Madonna in 4 years.. Reviews about Lady Gaga were great.. One said that she isn't a pop singer.. she is a rockstar and they've LOVED the way she treated their fans.. She is a lovely person and she is one of the biggest singers of our generation. Some good reviews about Gaga: http://entreteniment...famosidades-220 http://musica.uol.co...ltrapassado.htm http://www1.folha.uo...sao-paulo.shtml There are a lot of others.. i'm just lazy now.. LOL Thank you SO much, this is very helpful! it's great to get a real Brasilian to help with this. I guess my non-existent Portuguese is even worse than I thought since I heard negatives or rather, wanting to hear negatives , or maybe I was thinking of Santiago, Chile where it sounded dire (my Spanish is 0.1%). I mean, the Chilean Madonna fans were really, really upset and angry. But, for my own soul, I need to look at the positives (easier said than done) and am glad that Gaga got really rave reviews. thanks so much for sending us the amazing reviews! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaguita 0 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) I have no clue myself, but regardless of the numbers, the South American media was very negative about Madonna's treatment of fans especially in Santiago. Did not over 600 demanded refunds through their Government policy? That's really bad press. I think this would sour S. America for Madonna in the future. At the opposite extreme, S. American press was VERY positive towards Gaga's friendliness and amazing performance. Again, watching the media with only 5% knowledge of Spanish and 0% Portuguese, I can tell from the attitude of the fans the reporters interviewed as to which fans were disgusted and which ones were thrilled. 1.200 actually hehe the day after the show. And you are right, people were much happier abouit Gaga than Madonna, at least in Argentina. Gaga started on time, show lasted longer than expected and had a closer connection with the audience. Edited January 13, 2013 by gaguita Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefJAGermanotta 2 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 1.200 actually hehe the day after the show. And you are right, people were much happier abouit Gaga than Madonna, at least in Argentina. Gaga started on time, show lasted longer than expected and had a closer connection with the audience. Really 1200, that's REALLY DIRE! It was reported 600 so perhaps when people were finding out that you can complain, more signed up for possibility of refunds. Do you know if they got refunded in the end? I mean, paying 400 USD to be insulted, then waiting over 3.5 hours in the rain, for a 1 hour show, it's not right. Worse than I even thought! Glad to hear that in Argentina people were much happier with Gaga, I don't think MDNA was as disastrous in your country than in Chile and the UK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPM 781 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 a proof the show from last night was sold out packed crowd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I counted the available seats from the interactive seating map on Ticketmaster and calculated it Cool thanks :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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