Eddie 2,518 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, ctherainbow said: I can't believe that you don't take people being able to pay their rent and not be homeless seriously. Oh my god HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA What if tomorrow I see you again? Should I say that I used to love you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctherainbow 3,162 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Eddie said: Oh my god HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA Let me share my personal story; maybe it will help you understand and be more empathetic to people in the sex work industry: When I was going to start my senior year at college, my financial aid fell apart unexpectedly, and I lost my apartment and had to live out of my car because I was unable to get a job and save up money fast enough to pay my rent out of my own pocket. Then after I lost my apartment, I was unable to get a traditional job, as very few companies want to hire someone without a permanent residence. So had I gone into sex work, specifically cam work like the people who produce on OnlyFans, whether or not I was able to monetize my content would have been the difference between living out of my car and begging for food and actually being able to afford a place to live, or waking up in the morning and knowing I would actually be able to eat that day. So it's very important for the people whose livelihoods depend on being able to sell their content. I don't know any other way to explain it that might help you understand why it can be so devastating for people. I'm talkin' 'bout forever, baby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie 2,518 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, ctherainbow said: Let me share my personal story; maybe it will help you understand and be more empathetic to people in the sex work industry: When I was going to start my senior year at college, my financial aid fell apart unexpectedly, and I lost my apartment and had to live out of my car because I was unable to get a job and save up money fast enough to pay my rent out of my own pocket. Then after I lost my apartment, I was unable to get a traditional job, as very few companies want to hire someone without a permanent residence. So had I gone into sex work, specifically cam work like the people who produce on OnlyFans, whether or not I was able to monetize my content would have been the difference between living out of my car and begging for food and actually being able to afford a place to live, or waking up in the morning and knowing I would actually be able to eat that day. So it's very important for the people whose livelihoods depend on being able to sell their content. I don't know any other way to explain it that might help you understand why it can be so devastating for people. Ok gurl sorry but you are making this all about you and you can never argue with someone like that 'cause you always gonna be wrong. They still gomna sell their bodies, I mean "content". I'm not gonna fight over pørn What if tomorrow I see you again? Should I say that I used to love you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGreen 706 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 We need to band together and hire this hacker to leak Frankensteined and the other LG5 songs from RedOne before he gives them to Ava Max!!!!! Josh's Party Planning on YouTube & TikTok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomOfTheDance 13,795 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 i thought this article was innocent at first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctherainbow 3,162 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Eddie said: Ok gurl sorry but you are making this all about you and you can never argue with someone like that 'cause you always gonna be wrong. They still gomna sell their bodies, I mean "content". I'm not gonna fight over pørn But that's the whole point; it's not about me. It's about the people who have actually gone into sex work and how this could damage their livelihoods. Do you not consider sex workers to be people who need to eat, drink, and have shelter? Or do you consider them subhuman because of their type of job? Look, we all work at different types of jobs, using different parts of our bodies, whether it's our brains to analyze data, our arms to lift boxes, our vocal chords to be a musician, or our entire bodies like cam workers do. The idea that sex workers are inferior because of their type of job is largely simply because the Abrahamic religions look down on sex outside of relationships. In a secular society, any kind of work that doesn't harm people shouldn't be looked down upon. Anyway, I'm starting to get into the more esoteric background info about the demonization of sex work, so I'll stop now, as there's no indication so far that you've thought in depth about the points I've made, but just... please try to be kind to people and think about how you can help them achieve a joyful life. We're both fans of an amazing woman who preaches kindness, and I imagine she'd want to see sex workers living joyful, healthy lives, without the worry of losing revenue or their entire job. I hope you have a good day. I'm talkin' 'bout forever, baby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Adakam 2 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 hours ago, ctherainbow said: Okay, but even if we disregard the blatant illegality and violation of the expectation of selective privacy. With this leak, people who enjoy a certain model, but aren't hung up on constantly having a new stream of content, could just download the leak, unsubscribe, and there goes the revenue. this leak just allows the more casual fans to just grab the free illegally leaked content and unsubscribe. Im not disregarding the illegality and the violation, or downplaying it, but as someone who "worked" in chaturbate for a while, I have to be realistic and be aware thats its a risky business. This kind of content leaks all the time, and you dont even need to look hard for it, you can look up any chaturbate/onlyfans model on any **** site, and youll find something leaked. I know everyone's situation is different but this isnt a basket where you should put all your eggs on. For the next 2 paragraphs, sorry but your examples dont make sense, if you are already subbed, theres nothing in the leak that you dont have access to already. Theres no reason for this leak to take current subscribers away. The big issue I do have with the leak, is that as far as I have seen, (I could be wrong) only women content leaked, just like a few years ago when a bunch of female celebrities nudes leaked at the same time. Theres a huge mysoginistic agenda around this that im not seeing anyone here discussing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctherainbow 3,162 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Adakam said: Im not disregarding the illegality and the violation, or downplaying it, but as someone who "worked" in chaturbate for a while, I have to be realistic and be aware thats its a risky business. This kind of content leaks all the time, and you dont even need to look hard for it, you can look up any chaturbate/onlyfans model on any **** site, and youll find something leaked. I know everyone's situation is different but this isnt a basket where you should put all your eggs on. For the next 2 paragraphs, sorry but your examples dont make sense, if you are already subbed, theres nothing in the leak that you dont have access to already. Theres no reason for this leak to take current subscribers away. The big issue I do have with the leak, is that as far as I have seen, (I could be wrong) only women content leaked, just like a few years ago when a bunch of female celebrities nudes leaked at the same time. Theres a huge mysoginistic agenda around this that im not seeing anyone here discussing. Hey, I appreciate that you're willing to have this conversation respectfully, so thank you for that. The thing is, while sex work might not be a basket that you "should" put all your eggs in, some people in crisis periods of their lives don't have a choice, and this can still hurt them. The fact that it's a risky type of work doesn't mean that these people should be protected any less, so to see people laugh at and make jokes about what can be very damaging for people, just hurts the part of my soul that cares about people. What I was trying to say is, if you want access to all the model's previous content, you have to be a continual subscriber to view it, right? There's no "download this content" option available for subscribers, as far as I know. So say you were a casual subscriber who liked the model's work but would rather have it for free and didn't care so much about getting new content as long as you had some of your favorite past videos of theirs accessible to you. If you came across the leak, you could unsubscribe from the model, find the leak and download a collection of their work, and no longer be giving the model revenue. So the model would only be left with those subscribers who wanted to see any future content, which I imagine is a good chunk of the subscribers, but they would lose all those subscribers who are happy with just having a collection of illegal downloads of past content to browse through. Do you get what I mean? I agree with you on the last point, though I do not have a very high opinion of straight men overall, so I'm not surprised that women are being subjected to this kind of mass violation. I just wish that the world wasn't so cruel. Well, I don't wish it, I work towards it, but I wish it would happen faster. I'm talkin' 'bout forever, baby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adakam 2 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, ctherainbow said: Hey, I appreciate that you're willing to have this conversation respectfully, so thank you for that. The thing is, while sex work might not be a basket that you "should" put all your eggs in, some people in crisis periods of their lives don't have a choice, and this can still hurt them. The fact that it's a risky type of work doesn't mean that these people should be protected any less, so to see people laugh at and make jokes about what can be very damaging for people, just hurts the part of my soul that cares about people. What I was trying to say is, if you want access to all the model's previous content, you have to be a continual subscriber to view it, right? There's no "download this content" option available for subscribers, as far as I know. So say you were a casual subscriber who liked the model's work but would rather have it for free and didn't care so much about getting new content as long as you had some of your favorite past videos of theirs accessible to you. If you came across the leak, you could unsubscribe from the model, find the leak and download a collection of their work, and no longer be giving the model revenue. So the model would only be left with those subscribers who wanted to see any future content, which I imagine is a good chunk of the subscribers, but they would lose all those subscribers who are happy with just having a collection of illegal downloads of past content to browse through. Do you get what I mean? I agree with you on the last point, though I do not have a very high opinion of straight men overall, so I'm not surprised that women are being subjected to this kind of mass violation. I just wish that the world wasn't so cruel. Well, I don't wish it, I work towards it, but I wish it would happen faster. Well I looked it up since Ive never used Onlyfans, content is protected under copyright law and it belongs to the model, and the site doesnt give you tools to download it, but theres nothing that can be done to stop you from taking screenshots/record your screen, and as long as you dont post it somewhere else the youre fine downloading it like that. So current subscribers, if they want to, they could easily have all that counted downloaded already. I genuinly dont think this leak will take current subs away, at worst it would stop you from getting curious eyes subbing for 1 month. And dont worry, I totally understand you worrying about them, but calm down, for the vast majority of models there, it is just a side job for a quick buck, most of them post a picture every few days, promote it for a bit on instagram and twitter, and thats all they need. Its not a 40 hour a week job, noone can make that much p0rn lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSUNAMI 21,298 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I am so bad but I just cuckle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctherainbow 3,162 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Adakam said: Well I looked it up since Ive never used Onlyfans, content is protected under copyright law and it belongs to the model, and the site doesnt give you tools to download it, but theres nothing that can be done to stop you from taking screenshots/record your screen, and as long as you dont post it somewhere else the youre fine downloading it like that. So current subscribers, if they want to, they could easily have all that counted downloaded already. I genuinly dont think this leak will take current subs away, at worst it would stop you from getting curious eyes subbing for 1 month. And dont worry, I totally understand you worrying about them, but calm down, for the vast majority of models there, it is just a side job for a quick buck, most of them post a picture every few days, promote it for a bit on instagram and twitter, and thats all they need. Its not a 40 hour a week job, noone can make that much p0rn lol. Gotcha. I imagine the hit in revenue from the one-time subscribers wouldn’t be as bad, though it is still definitely a monetary loss. And yeah, I know that the majority of people in online sex work don’t do it as their primary job; it’s just that sex workers are a very vulnerable population, and I know what it’s like to be that vulnerable. And I’m a papa bear who wants to protect everybody. Thanks again for engaging respectfully on the topic. I always really appreciate people who take the time to be kind. I'm talkin' 'bout forever, baby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delusional 9,221 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I- this is shocking ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️BANNED TILL SEPTEMBER‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myusername 315 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 6 hours ago, Adakam said: That sucks, where can we find the leaks tho? For research purposes... 4chan for sure. Maestro play me your symphony I will listen to anything Take me on a trip DJ free my mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagi 2,750 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Wasn’t it obvious from the beginning that something like this was going to happen? I mean yeah you gotta pay to see the content, on the other hand everybody is able to pay and see it -> also able to share it to other platforms. I never understood the system behind it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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