Iowa: Too Close to Call, Results Filled with Inconsistencies & Flaws

[Gagaloo911 12,959]

This thread is to debunk false claims that there is a "winner" or that the results are final or even accurate, as explained by various sources including the AP and the New York Times. 

Iowa caucus remains too close to call with 100% of precincts reporting. 

Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders have remained neck-and-neck for most of the week, and the Associated Press declared on Thursday evening that the race was still too close to call.

The results come in a contest marred by fresh revelations about technical issues and reporting delays that have led to allegations of inaccuracy.

However, the controversies that have dogged the vote since results tallying problems emerged almost as soon as polls closed continued on Thursday. The New York Times reported that one tranche of results released by the state Democratic party on Wednesday were “riddled with inconsistencies and other flaws”.

The paper said that its own reporting showed that: “In some cases, vote tallies do not add up. In others, precincts are shown allotting the wrong number of delegates to certain candidates. And in at least a few cases, the Iowa Democratic party’s reported results do not match those reported by the precincts.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/06/pete-buttigieg-bernie-sanders-nearly-tied-iowa-caucuses

[Gagaloo911 12,959]

So, not only do the results the IDP released not add up, but in some cases results they've released don't even match those reported by the the precincts. 

If that doesn't worry people, or not make you question what's going on and the legitimacy of the results, then idk what will... 

[Mister G 10,512]

10 minutes ago, Gagaloo92 said:

So, not only do the results the IDP released not add up, but in some cases results they've released don't even match those reported by the the precincts. 

If that doesn't worry people, or not make you question what's going on and the legitimacy of the results, then idk what will... 

It is trash.

[tomsches 17,550]

Welcome to the 21st century, America. Just let people vote and let the one with the most votes win. 

[Nikolai Barrow 1,337]

Once again @Gagaloo92 laying out the facts 

[pachinko 10,753]

52 minutes ago, Gagaloo92 said:

This thread is to debunk false claims that there is a "winner" or that the results are final or even accurate, as explained by various sources including the AP and the New York Times. 

Iowa caucus remains too close to call with 100% of precincts reporting. 

Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders have remained neck-and-neck for most of the week, and the Associated Press declared on Thursday evening that the race was still too close to call.

The results come in a contest marred by fresh revelations about technical issues and reporting delays that have led to allegations of inaccuracy.

However, the controversies that have dogged the vote since results tallying problems emerged almost as soon as polls closed continued on Thursday. The New York Times reported that one tranche of results released by the state Democratic party on Wednesday were “riddled with inconsistencies and other flaws”.

The paper said that its own reporting showed that: “In some cases, vote tallies do not add up. In others, precincts are shown allotting the wrong number of delegates to certain candidates. And in at least a few cases, the Iowa Democratic party’s reported results do not match those reported by the precincts.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/06/pete-buttigieg-bernie-sanders-nearly-tied-iowa-caucuses

Can they at least highlight the frontrunners ffs?!

[Lucas 31,117]

Politics in America is absolute trash.

[Gagaloo911 12,959]

22 minutes ago, pachinko said:

Can they at least highlight the frontrunners ffs?!

Well they do state that Sanders and Buttigieg are in a virtual tie, with a 0.1% difference in the SDEs between them. Coupled with the inconsistencies and errors, many sources are not comfortable with stating a winner. 

Furthermore, it's likely Sanders should have been given SDEs that for whatever reason he wasn't given by the IDP, eventhough according to precinct data he should have been. 

[Eighteen 5,430]

this is what happens when you have people going around manually counting people, yelling from across the room to convey numbers to write down on a white board, when you have people moving around, recounting them, rewriting numbers, and on and on. i am so not surprised that this method of voting has inconsistencies once people start to analyze the results this closely. but yeah keep going with the caucusing.

[MJHolland 12,725]

Unless Bernie files for a recanvass before noon CT today, these are the final results! 
 

In 3.5 hours, Pete will OFFICIALLY be the winner! Woohoo!!! 

[Brainiac 11,171]

3 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

Unless Bernie files for a recanvass before noon CT today, these are the final results! 
 

In 3.5 hours, Pete will OFFICIALLY be the winner! Woohoo!!! 

His campaign will be dead after New Hampshire so idk what you’re so excited about. He literally has NO non white support.

[Economy 52,844]

10 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

Unless Bernie files for a recanvass before noon CT today, these are the final results! 
 

In 3.5 hours, Pete will OFFICIALLY be the winner! Woohoo!!! 

 

6 minutes ago, Brainiac said:

His campaign will be dead after New Hampshire so idk what you’re so excited about. He literally has NO non white support.

Yeah Pete spent a lot on Iowa and Iowa is also 91% white which is his main base

 

I don't expect him to perform as well going forward

 

That being said I was a little surprised. I expected Biden to perform a little higher and Pete a little lower

[Gagaloo911 12,959]

26 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

Unless Bernie files for a recanvass before noon CT today, these are the final results! 
 

In 3.5 hours, Pete will OFFICIALLY be the winner! Woohoo!!! 

Gotta love people who ignore actual facts and keep running with a false narrative made up out of inaccurate data 

A Trump tease! Republicans are shook. 

[Delusional 9,221]

It’s the Russians once again

[Morphine Prince 109,655]

Iowa has proven how Democrats don’t actually care about democracy or people of color’s votes being thrown in the trash. 

A “win” full of inaccurate numbers isn’t something to be proud of. 

The fact people are celebrating Pete’s win is disgusting. 

Don’t pretend to care about democracy.