ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 This is ultimately still a mess for Joe Biden, the "front runner" and Pete needed not just the win, but the coverage of his win in order to be able to pull off an Obama sized upset ala 2008 (and I don't think he could even with it, but this seems to have been his campaign's strategy - invest overwhelmingly in Iowa and cross their fingers) 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Realigning voters show a problem for Bernie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I keep coming back to the fact that we've literally overthrown governments after elections that were less shady than this. This is beyond insane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy 5,686 Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 Bernie leads in both first and final alignment, but Pete got more delegates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 So we're going to sit with these partial results for 3 hours and then Trump will give the State of the Union address? Trash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy 5,686 Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 Just now, Florin said: Realigning voters show a problem for Bernie. While I do agree that re-alignment is tough on Bernie, he has more re-alignment votes than Pete. Pete just has more delegates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Kinda shocked at how terrible Biden is doing but at the same time Buttigieg is from a midwest state so it's not that crazy he could win/be in the top 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 And as usual in this trash system, Sanders leads with the popular vote but someone else has more delegates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumours 45,521 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I think it's interesting that the Iowa map on the NY Times website shows that Warren isn't actually the leader in any individual county. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, OG Gaga Stan said: I keep coming back to the fact that we've literally overthrown governments after elections that were less shady than this. This is beyond insane. This this THIS I know people hate Jill Stein, but can we please point out that WE SUPPORTED A MILITARY COUP IN BOLIVIA over withheld voting irregularities that lasted under a day That and the fact that many many people tried to bring up the App's potential failings on here and all over the internet Now we've got the DHS saying they offered to test the app, and them acknowledging they didn't do a proper proportional test run We love ineptitude (To be clear, we just said it was potentially shady and bound to be a disaster, we've yet to find out what the connection between Buttigieg people + app developers + parent company is, if there is one) *edit* the tweet didnt show up and I corrected myself on the timeline, I had read it as 13 hours, so I changed it to be "under a day" 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,888 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Aarghya said: I just learned that in 2016 Ted Cruz won the IOWA Republican Primary. Anything can happen! That's a republican, it's not as accurate for them. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buddy said: While I do agree that re-alignment is tough on Bernie, he has more re-alignment votes than Pete. Pete just has more delegates. No. Pete has 3x times more realignment voters than Bernie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Chuck Todd just called this a "disappointing result for the Sanders campaign" and that he "didn't win" and that this creates an opening for Bloomberg. I just... We don't even have all of the results and they're pulling this nonsense?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatica 7,042 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: and Pete needed not just the win, but the coverage of his win in order to be able to pull off an Obama sized upset ala 2008 (and I don't think he could even with it, but this seems to have been his campaign's strategy - invest overwhelmingly in Iowa and cross their fingers) This is what I’m curious about. I’m so shocked by Biden’s extreme underperformance. If a lot of his appeal was his electability, I can see his base of supporters deflating quickly and flocking to the next best thing which is most likely Pete for a lot of them. We’ll have to see about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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