Warren exposed for doing fancy wine fundraiser, which she used against Pete

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It wasn’t in wine cave. But in June 2018 Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren had a fundraiser at the City Winery Boston, where guests who contributed at least $1,000 received a souvenir wine bottle, the Associated Press reported on Saturday.

The event featured a performance by Melissa Etheridge and remarks from Warren, who officially announced her campaign for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination seven months later. The fundraiser also included a VIP photo reception and premium seating for donors who contributed or raised $5,400 per couple or $2,700 a person, the AP reported. That’s a fancy fundraiser with better access for bigger donors, the kind of thing most American politicians do all the time.

The problem for Warren, of course, is that this sounds not all that different from the “wine cave” fundraiser that she blasted South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg over during Thursday’s Democratic debate. Buttigieg’s event was held last Sunday at the Hall Rutherford wine caves in Northern California, which reportedly features a “chandelier with 1,500 Swarovski crystals, an onyx banquet table to reflect its luminescence, and bottles of cabernet sauvignon that sell for as much as $900.” Warren’s attack came after Buttigieg, under pressure by rivals, released a list of campaign bundlers, which appears to be incomplete.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/12/wine-cave-warren-fundraiser-buttigieg/

[PunkTheFunk 125,719]

See when you do winery...

[Lilmonzter 2,864]

Bernie Sanders the only candidate who does not reside in a wine cave

But in Liz's defence she's seems to see a difference between trading a few thousand dollars for a selfie rather than a few millions for influence. So....

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Honestly, imo the whole wine cave thing was f*cking stupid as h*ll. All of them have done fancy fundraisers, even if some have done far more than others. And by all, I mean even Bernie (google him and Martha's Vineyard). 

I absolutely think we need to get money out of politics, but there were so many more important things to talk about at the debate than...a wine cave. And this is coming from a Warren supporter.

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I dont even get why we/they are having this discussion. It should be more about their policies and not about fundraising events in wine caves or whatever 

[Eighteen 5,430]

this is nitpicking but mayor pete's shindig sounds a lot more fancy. but still, the politics are coming out and i kinda don't like it. still for warren tho.

[Ryusei 61,502]

Who the f*ck cares? It‘s about who can lead a country not who had a more expensive wine tasting, like how does that affect anything?

[imnotyourbabe10 6,120]

Who has had the most consistency in their career?  Bernie!  Have no clue why people are still arguing over the other candidates when Sanders has been very clear on his stances for a very long time now.  Hell, he was the one who made Warren's current platform "cool" or acceptable just by him running in 2016 alone.

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25 minutes ago, imnotyourbabe10 said:

Who has had the most consistency in their career?  Bernie!  Have no clue why people are still arguing over the other candidates when Sanders has been very clear on his stances for a very long time now.

Yeah pretty much each time folks like a candidate cause he/she push for a certain idea you can see that Sanders was already pushing for it before ( if not way before ) this candidate.

25 minutes ago, imnotyourbabe10 said:

Hell, he was the one who made Warren's current platform "cool" or acceptable just by him running in 2016 alone.

True! For example, his healthcare, taxation of the richest folks and college fees plans were globally considered impossible/ absurd in 2016 but several major candidates came in this current campaign pushing for it or close...

Warren would be deemed "too much of a leftist" without sanders campaign  4 years ago instead of just a "very progressive" candidate like she is now.

The guy is basically shown dems voters that they don't have a choice between a moderate or a centrist as a spokesperson while republicans voters could very well give people an extreme candidate if they want to.

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I like Warren a lot, but her willingness to use the "wine cave" story against Pete was opportunistic, hypocritical, and disingenuous.

Remember when Bernie ignored the media and told the world he didn't  care about Hillary's emails? It may have benefited his competition, but it was honest. I'd like to see more of that, and less of candidates seizing on whatever outrage political stans on social media are trying to turn into issues.

 

[ItsTommyBitch 12,640]

Like I said in the other thread

Warren has a great point about corruption in financing campaigns and dark money in politics

.... but she isn't the person to point it out. It should have been Bernie.

That being said, there is a difference between courting millionaires and billionaires in ways that produce tangible changes to your politics and involves discreet campaign promises and what she has done but that nuance will be lost on people because of Pete's disingenuous rebuttals  

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3 hours ago, tomsches said:

I dont even get why we/they are having this discussion. It should be more about their policies and not about fundraising events in wine caves or whatever 

 

2 hours ago, Ryusei said:

Who the f*ck cares? It‘s about who can lead a country not who had a more expensive wine tasting, like how does that affect anything?

It's not a matter of where they fundraise, or even how much they fundraise, it is about exclusive access to a candidate being bought by rich people who have a vested interest in circumventing the will of the majority of people with this money, and this results in their policies literally shifting. Look at Mayor Pete speaking like a progressive at the beginning of the race before he had concrete policies, saying he was for Medicare For All even back in 2018, and then look at the major donors he aligned himself with at these closed door fundraisers and in meetings and see how his rhetoric and policies have shifted. Now he repeats literal Anti-M4A talking points crafted by the Private Health Insurance industry and doesn't even say he had a change of heart  

The Obama administration ran against the individual mandate in Health Care and he supported a Public Option and generally ran as a transformational "change" candidate. He accepted money from rich donors especially in the general and with these kinds of events and it ultimately led to him including corporate giants in his own administration, which led to him choosing not to persecute the banks and the bank bail out itself in 2008, a highly unpopular mess from which the Millennial generation has still not recovered and the economic desolation of which is a major reason that Donald Trump was able to run as an Economic Populist and honestly talk to the rust belt about how shitty their lives had been under Democrats, and its the reason there were more Obama - Trump voters in those places than Bernie - Trump voters, even though Trump was a blatant racist.

Its a major reason why we are in the climate change disaster we are in now, those companies and corporations knew of the potential damage 30-40 years ago and lied about it and paid to keep Washington away from it. It's the reason everyone on the left says "Let's fix climate change!" and then does nothing about it. The Republicans that DO believe in Climate Change say "lets just tax carbon and get it over with!" and even Democrats can't just agree even though they openly say they do. It's the reason the Sackler family and Purdue Pharma were able to get away almost single handedly manning the Opioid crisis - they donated over $1 million to Republicans to avoid regulation and paid to put their names on buildings to avoid taking responsibility for it.

So yes, it does matter who has access to you - it should be the working and middle class majority of citizens, the people you represent, and millionaires and billionaires should not be able to game the system with dark money in order to have undue influence on our politicians. A check for $2,800 is not gaming the system, as many celebrities and high profile people give, but $200,000? $1,000,000? Yes, it is. And that's Dark Money, thanks to Citizens United and Super PACs and "donations"

It is simple, do we want a leader who is beholden to special interests over our own, or do we want one who works for us?

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As an avid Warren supporter, even I can admit her argument with Pete was it’s not well received....

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4 hours ago, PunkTheFunk said:

See when you do winery...

the wine comes back to bite the clown? 

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5 hours ago, PunkTheFunk said:

See when you do winery...

Where is this gif coming from?