Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 50% of FOX VIEWERS support having Trump impeached AND removed from office, with an additional 4% supporting impeaching but not removing. From a Fox News poll https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/16/impeachment-reality-comes-fox-news-universe/%3foutputType=amp Here's to those peddling this idea that impeachment is not popular and will be bad for Democrats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 And naturally Trump has gone apesh!t and calling the poll fake news eventhough it's coming from Fox aka his only source for information and what he watches 13 hours a day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 78,989 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I'm surprised tbh! I would've figured even if the results did show a lot of support for impeachment they'd make it less so/just don't announce it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delusional 9,221 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I hate how divided the world is becoming, just shows the human race isn’t lasting another 200 years ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️BANNED TILL SEPTEMBER‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOLANTIS 16,504 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, DeIusional said: I hate how divided the world is becoming, just shows the human race isn’t lasting another 200 years Same sis. It should be an easy 100%. But let's take what we can as long as we impeach this white supremacist. I'll lift you 3 inches off the ground and drag you to a meter and a half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 This is impossible because just yesterday a CNN Poll showed that support for impeachment fell by 5 points from 50 down to 45 percent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,173 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Lord Temptation said: This is impossible because just yesterday a CNN Poll showed that support for impeachment fell by 5 points from 50 down to 45 percent. This is why I hate polls. Just because one poll says something doesn't mean it's representative of what the country actually thinks. It also depends on who the people are polling and how they poll them. There's just so many factors that people don't really take into account when just looking at a poll. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,173 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I mean, it's good that it looks like the majority of people support impeachment, but 54% is still way too low considering all the facts. This is a very clear open-and-shut case. The only reason it's so divisive is because of how partisan this has become. If you just look at the facts, it's very clear that Donald should be impeached. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said: This is impossible because just yesterday a CNN Poll showed that support for impeachment fell by 5 points from 50 down to 45 percent. Impossible? Fox News literally reported on it and released the poll results lmao Also, you do realize that different polls have different respondents? Not to mention Fox and CNN are different sources themselves. It's absolutely possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, M Monstre said: I mean, it's good that it looks like the majority of people support impeachment, but 54% is still way too low considering all the facts. This is a very clear open-and-shut case. The only reason it's so divisive is because of how partisan this has become. If you just look at the facts, it's very clear that Donald should be impeached. Agreed. Really everything is divisive though now because everything is viewed through a partisan lens. If you're a conservative, you have to be anti choice, pro-Trump, anti-environment, etc and if you're liberal you have to be the opposite of those. Partisanship in today's world has really ruined everything including truth and facts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Gagaloo92 said: Impossible? Fox News literally reported on it and released the poll results lmao Also, you do realize that different polls have different respondents? Not to mention Fox and CNN are different sources themselves. It's absolutely possible. I’m only looking at this from a statistics angle (i have a degree in it). Support for Trump within his party is at 95%. If we assume that most Fox supporters are Republicans (let’s say 95%), then the figure of 50% support for impeachment is mathematically impossible. Either Fox news is more balanced than people assume (and hence unbiased) or the poll itself had a biased sample. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, M Monstre said: This is why I hate polls. Just because one poll says something doesn't mean it's representative of what the country actually thinks. It also depends on who the people are polling and how they poll them. There's just so many factors that people don't really take into account when just looking at a poll. I hate polls too. They’re literally made up stories made by data analysts connecting dots to generate attention grabbing headlines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,173 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Gagaloo92 said: Agreed. Really everything is divisive though now because everything is viewed through a partisan lens. If you're a conservative, you have to be anti choice, pro-Trump, anti-environment, etc and if you're liberal you have to be the opposite of those. Partisanship in today's world has really ruined everything including truth and facts. I agree, to an extent. You obviously cannot go soooo far left or soooo far right, because it's at that point where you start to deny the facts and just make up things to fit your agenda (whether you consciously or subconsciously think about it). That being said, I really do believe that leaning left is objectively best. People can argue with me about that, but I just don't see how at the very least, supporting enviornmental change; supporting women, POC, LGBTQ issues; having anti-gun laws; being pro-choice; etc. is "bad" by any stretch of the imagination. Yes, there are nuances to each issue that needs discussion, but I feel like everyone should be alligned with those beliefs. Those are issues that deal with human rights or at the very least, the safety of the public. Regarding social (and some political) issues specifically, I just don't see how leaning right is the correct way, like, at all.... 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said: I’m only looking at this from a statistics angle (i have a degree in it). Support for Trump within his party is at 95%. If we assume that most Fox supporters are Republicans (let’s say 95%), then the figure of 50% support for impeachment is mathematically impossible. Either Fox news is more balanced than people assume (and hence unbiased) or the poll itself had a biased sample. Or it's the fact that people are more complex than you assume and don't go a certain way just based on their affiliation Having actual principles like believing it's wrong to ask a foreign leader to dig up dirt on your political rival even when it's someone on your side doing it is not impossible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, M Monstre said: I agree, to an extent. You obviously cannot go soooo far left or soooo far right, because it's at that point where you start to deny the facts and just make up things to fit your agenda (whether you consciously or subconsciously think about it). That being said, I really do believe that leaning left is objectively best. People can argue with me about that, but I just don't see how at the very least, supporting enviornmental change; supporting women, POC, LGBTQ issues; having anti-gun laws; being pro-choice; etc. is "bad" by any stretch of the imagination. Yes, there are nuances to each issue that needs discussion, but I feel like everyone should be alligned with those beliefs. Those are issues that deal with human rights or at the very least, the safety of the public. Regarding social (and some political) issues specifically, I just don't see how leaning right is the correct way, like, at all.... I agree with you on all counts. At some point it's not even so much as "leaning left" as it is just having deceny, respect and treating people, animals, and the earth with dignity and respect. It's sad that in our society having that means you have to be left leaning rather than just human. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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