audrey horne 1,180 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Miaou said: Even if I'm not agree with the people who are blocking the transports, I was talking about the attitude of french people in the train station How empathic of you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fame Romance 10,517 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 The daily struggle since a week ago But oh well just hope it pays off, tho I fear it gets worse with today's Prime Minister's speech Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Digaga 975 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 43 minutes ago, adterp said: We live older because we work less and we better keep it that way. I don't want to spend my whole life dying at work and spend my retirement in care services. You can't just work less, it isn't viable economicly, we need more people at work to contribute for the pension of retirees. I'm not happy to see people working hard their whole life to endup with a low pension and in bad physical health, of course, but we need to find money to pay those pensions. There isn't a miracle solution where evrybody is winning and the government doesn't endup with a huge debt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonatellaPop 3,482 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Omg! `I hope everything gets better https://blacklivesmatter.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audrey horne 1,180 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, Stanley Digaga said: There isn't a miracle solution where evrybody is winning and the government doesn't endup with a huge debt. So far, only the very wealthiest are winning. No need of a miracle when solutions are right in front of our eyes *better wealth distribution* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
homomo 23,883 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Economy said: Here in Canada (at least in my Province) it's always schools and teachers that go on strike Almost every year there's a strike They have one of the most powerful unions in the Country tho so I'm not surprised... They already have amazing benefits like good health coverage, sick days and they make above average pay for a job where they don't work the summer or long days during the day... If only I could strike like that for my job My aunt is a primary school teacher in Ontario. Her class size last year was 34. THIRTY FOUR STUDENTS all to herself, with maybe two weeks of help from an aid during the whole year. And yet, the Ontario government was still planning on making cuts. Unless you know the full story, don’t comment on this issue if you don’t know exactly why they are striking. 0110100001100101011011000110110001101111 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Digaga 975 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, adterp said: *better wealth distribution* That's another subject Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skedaddleBItCh 2,821 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 What's happening? 🇵🇭༼;´༎ຶ ༎ຶ༽🇵🇭 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,951 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, homomo said: My aunt is a primary school teacher in Ontario. Her class size last year was 34. THIRTY FOUR STUDENTS all to herself, with maybe two weeks of help from an aid during the whole year. And yet, the Ontario government was still planning on making cuts. Unless you know the full story, don’t comment on this issue if you don’t know exactly why they are striking. I know they don't want cuts But nobody wants cuts on anything... And Ontario overspent for ages and now we're paying the price after being the most indebted subsoverein government in the entire planet! Tough decisions have to be made. I think classes being bigger than ideal perhaps is a better sacrafice than say cuts to life saving healthcare Anyway I'm talking about the history of striking in general not just this particular strike. I know this strike involves the cuts more than stuff like wages and benefits But historically speaking it's often about compensation and whether it be garbage collectors, teachers, transit drivers.... It's always jobs that pay at least above average to begin with plus good benefits that see strikes. These ppl are already better off than most they are just lucky they have unions that make this possible. Where I work for example i don't not have such a tool available to me for protesting crap pay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,951 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, adterp said: So far, only the very wealthiest are winning. No need of a miracle when solutions are right in front of our eyes *better wealth distribution* It's not always that easy. If it was every expert should support it I'm not saying all policies to redistribute wealth are bad... But I'm pointing out ppl tend to oversimplify the concept Wealth distribution policies always always have cons that come with the pros that at least partially offset their benefit It has to be done very well and competently to make sure that on a net basis the economic change is more positive than negative For example rent controls sounded like a great idea to people in my Province until it became clear that those that warned lower construction of rental units would be a side effect of such a law and make the issue worse long term and that's exactly what happened. Now that laws on rent controls were relaxed, rental unit permits nearly tripled last year Policies always have secondary effects from their intended reasons and sometimes those unintended effects directly backfire That's an important thing to keep in mind when talking about wealth redistribution. I'm not saying Its bad. But the way the comment put it oversimplifies the idea as usual. It's quite complex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartTimeCatdad 588 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 The rich has seen a overwhelming increase of their wealth in the past decade, yet it is the working class who hasn’t experience an equal improvement that bears brunt of the costs. How can we justify the case where people who are buying their third vacation home in the Bahamas are exempt from contributing more to the state. They too benefit from the state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBEY 57,109 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Is it just me or its been quite "messy" lately (not the good word sorry but that's what comes to mind) with the yellow vests and now this, its a bit chaotic. however im all for people striking and demanding for better things, GO ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audrey horne 1,180 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Economy said: It's not always that easy. If it was every expert should support it I'm not saying all policies to redistribute wealth are bad... But I'm pointing out ppl tend to oversimplify the concept Wealth distribution policies always always have cons that come with them that at least partially offset their benefit It has to be done very well and competently to make sure that on a net basis the economic change is more positive than negative For example rent controls sounded like a great idea to people in my Province until it became clear that those that warned lower construction of rental units would be a side effect of such a law and make the issue worse long term and that's exactly what happened. Now that laws on rent controls were relaxed, rental unit permits nearly tripled last year Policies always have secondary effects from their intended reasons and sometimes those unintended effects directly backfire That's an important thing to keep in mind when talking about wealth redistribution I'm sorry, I didn't even read your response. I'm so tired of your conservatives rants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audrey horne 1,180 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Stanley Digaga said: That's another subject The entire french retirement system is based on repartition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,951 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, adterp said: I'm sorry, I didn't even read your response. I'm so tired of your conservatives rants. My comment literally was neither defending conservatives or liberalism. I literally just said things are not that simple and provided real reasoning If u consider an analysis of both the left and right side of the spectrum (that does not even say one is any better than the other) as a conservative rant for the right then u have extremist views I'm sorry. I didn't give conservative views any more merit than the left in this post or in most of my posts for that matter In my post literally gives just as much credit to both sides... If u think that's a rant for the right side of things than any point that isn't in line with ur thinking should be dismissed Close minded to the max tbh. U can't learn anything if ur that dismissive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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