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how did ari get away without crediting this sample?

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FentyGa11

so i was recently watching a “forgotten ariana grande songs” video, and a song came on that reminded me of something. immediately. and then i realised.

the ari song’s called too close

so i googled it to see the credits. the writers are:

Harmony Samuels, H. "Carmen Reece" Culver, Al Sherrod Lambert, Maurice David Wade, Ariana Grande

peculiar, considering the fact that the chorus and even elements of he production blatantly sample, or rather rip-off, mariah’s ‘93 song “I’ve Been Thinking About You”

now, i’m a huge ari fan. she was my first arena concert, she’s hella talented, rly funny, and i’m sure this isn’t her doing. but listen for yourselves.

it baffles me, how she didn’t get any backlash.

thoughts, GGD?

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Lord Temptation

Because Ariana Grandola IS the music industry :interestinga:

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Ryusei

It sounds very similar but as i have learned with the whole katy perry dark horse case it needs a lot more than just a blaring similarity for something to be considered plagiarism (i dont know the technicalities nor do i have much technical music knowledge just an observation from watching videos about the case) and there are of course artists who go the extra mile to not get sued for anything similar sounding like Taylor Swift with LWYMMD but I don‘t think everyone needs to get a #XXXisoverparty for everything... Rather than just getting backlash it would be interesting to hear from the producers or from Mariah cause really nothing else matters but the parties involved in making the songs cause it‘s these people whom this concerns. Just my opinion tho.

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Ally Campana

I mean it may not result in a copyright infringement case but I think it’s pretty clear she was modeled to be ‘the next Mariah Carey’ early on in her career.

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lovedillon
57 minutes ago, Ryusei said:

It sounds very similar but as i have learned with the whole katy perry dark horse case it needs a lot more than just a blaring similarity for something to be considered plagiarism (i dont know the technicalities nor do i have much technical music knowledge just an observation from watching videos about the case) and there are of course artists who go the extra mile to not get sued for anything similar sounding like Taylor Swift with LWYMMD but I don‘t think everyone needs to get a #XXXisoverparty for everything... Rather than just getting backlash it would be interesting to hear from the producers or from Mariah cause really nothing else matters but the parties involved in making the songs cause it‘s these people whom this concerns. Just my opinion tho.

It sounds more similar than Dark Horse did to that Christian rap song... the whole issue with the Dark Horse case is that the guy sued Katy for using a descending phrase in the minor scale which he did in his song. The issue with this is that no one can copyright the minor scale. This exact phrase has been used by Bach in his violin sonata, it’s in the Christmas song Jolly Old St Nick, it’s in the religious song Go Down Moses, AND it’s the theme to 1954’s Godzilla. The fact that the dude won the case against Katy is extremely dangerous because it implies that people can copyright scales, sounds, phrases, or even the G note. Scary times we live in.

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geishababe

They’re probably not aware of it. And even if Mariah knew i doubt she wouldn’t even wanna bother with a lawsuit over an album track. She makes enough money from her royalties and this would do nothing for her

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RAMROD

Maybe she is not big enough for people to care enough or feel offended enough that they wanna part of her royalty bill? :shrug:

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KinneyUnderYou
On 10/21/2019 at 4:59 PM, Ryusei said:

It sounds very similar but as i have learned with the whole katy perry dark horse case it needs a lot more than just a blaring similarity for something to be considered plagiarism (i dont know the technicalities nor do i have much technical music knowledge just an observation from watching videos about the case) and there are of course artists who go the extra mile to not get sued for anything similar sounding like Taylor Swift with LWYMMD

@FentyGa

Taylor credited the songwriters and they agreed to the sample. I am curious to know why you consider the song as plagiarism. Never mind if you did not know.

Richard Fairbrass, Fred Fairbrass and Rob Manzoli, the members of the British dance-pop group Right Said Fred, are credited as songwriters because the song interpolates the melody of their song "I'm Too Sexy".

According to Fred Fairbrass, he and his brother were contacted one week before the release of "Look What You Made Me Do" and were asked whether a "big, contemporary female artist who hasn't released anything for a while" – whose identity they were not told – would be able to use a portion of their song for her latest single. Although the brothers agreed to a deal, they did not officially find out that the artist in question was Swift until the morning after the song was released, but had deduced that it was her based on the description they were given. Both of the Fairbrass brothers said that they enjoyed "Look What You Made Me Do"; Fred Fairbrass told Rolling Stone, "I like the cynical aspect of the lyric, because 'I'm Too Sexy' is a cynical song, and I think she channeled that quite well."

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/right-said-fred-on-taylor-swifts-cynical-look-what-you-made-me-do-205808/

http://www.thefader.com/2017/08/25/taylor-swift-right-said-fred-look-what-you-made-me-do

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Taylucifer

Because she gets away with everything, aren't we tired:neyde:

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Diente
On 10/21/2019 at 9:29 AM, Ally Campana said:

I mean it may not result in a copyright infringement case but I think it’s pretty clear she was modeled to be ‘the next Mariah Carey’ early on in her career.

I don’t think it has stopped to be honest. Thank U Next sounds exactly as something Mariah could’ve put out, given a lot of Emancipation and E=MC2 teas. 

And also,

 

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FentyGa11
1 hour ago, KinneyUnderYou said:

@FentyGa

Taylor credited the songwriters and they agreed to the sample. I am curious to know why you consider the song as plagiarism. Never mind if you did not know.

oh i don’t consider LWYMMD to be plagiarism if that’s what you mean lol

bc it’s not

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KatieJudasGaga4

I ADORE THIS MARIAH SONG, UGH

My Holy Trinity: Lady Gaga, Imagine Dragons, Mariah Carey
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Jewels n Drugs
35 minutes ago, KatieJudasGaga4 said:

I ADORE THIS MARIAH SONG, UGH

the taste :applause:

 

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KatieJudasGaga4
7 minutes ago, Jewels n Drugs said:

the taste :applause:

 

She really needs to sing this song. She basically paid Music Box to dust besides the singles :triggered:

My Holy Trinity: Lady Gaga, Imagine Dragons, Mariah Carey
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