AlexanderMagno 10,746 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Don't agree. I can really tell that young fans have invaded GGD when people start underestimating the MonsterBall 2.0... Every scene from that show was iconic, and she was able to do it without the biggest budget. Enigma and JWT are better in a technical levels, that's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,950 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 100% disagree. I love her other tours, I love Enigma, but there is something completely ethereal about the Monster Ball Tour that has yet to be topped imo. It really was a kind of pop-rock-opera spectacle that really shook the pop industry and made her contemporaries step their game up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy232000 11,635 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 I agree its not her best tour like everyone claims, but i was just watching it yesterday and theres something about it that is so refreshing that her newest performances just lack. BTWB and JWT are the best stages and performances MTB is iconic but slightly overrated artRAVE was fun and under-appreciated but had shitty vocals Enigma remains and will always be Gagas worst shitshow ever. Terrible stage, no props, stupid storyline (which actually happens to be like a knock off of TMB and BTWB), awful make up, no new choreo, strained and bad vocals...Just plain bad all around except for the digital media (that is actually quite amazing and extremely well sone) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 As everybody else has said, it's easy to think as such when looking at that tour retroactively. Like, has she done better since? Of course. In some cases miles better, in my opinion. But in that moment, it felt like there was nothing like it. It was the perfect blend of obnoxiously large-scale theatrical, yet also blazingly intimate. I'm pretty sure it was MB2.0 that ultimately created the foundation of this fandom, cultish as it may be. It was a very, very special time when she was touring MB2.0. Seeing it flourish all the way until mid-2011 was a sight to behold. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieJudasGaga4 67,907 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 ENIGMA has bad vocals? Its her second best behind JWT though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, KatieJudasGaga4 said: ENIGMA has bad vocals? Its her second best behind JWT though. There were some shows a few months back where she was kind of shaky, but yeah nowhere near bad, in my opinion. I don't think she's ever had a consistently bad tour- artRave would be the "worst", and even then I think she sounded pretty decent. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieJudasGaga4 67,907 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Miel said: There were some shows a few months back where she was kind of shaky, but yeah nowhere near bad, in my opinion. I don't think she's ever had a consistently bad tour- artRave would be the "worst", and even then I think she sounded pretty decent. I agree, the leg from May to June she sounded really great and was improving from her shaky vocals from late Jan to Feb. In the beginning of ENIGMA she sounded the same from when she was touring for the JWT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonatellaPop 3,482 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 tbh i think the reason enigma is considered a ''**** show'' (even tho its like...not ) is because shes still finding the style for lg6, she just had asib and evolving and maybe shell change it upand improve it once she finds more inspiration and i would even compare it to the reason why tmb 1.0 is considered bad (its really not bad either) . both are shows in the beginnings of eras/before certain eras. https://blacklivesmatter.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,705 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, andy232000 said: I agree its not her best tour like everyone claims, but i was just watching it yesterday and theres something about it that is so refreshing that her newest performances just lack. BTWB and JWT are the best stages and performances MTB is iconic but slightly overrated artRAVE was fun and under-appreciated but had shitty vocals Enigma remains and will always be Gagas worst shitshow ever. Terrible stage, no props, stupid storyline (which actually happens to be like a knock off of TMB and BTWB), awful make up, no new choreo, strained and bad vocals...Just plain bad all around except for the digital media (that is actually quite amazing and extremely well sone) The JWT stage was pretty normal if you compare it to her other tours (not including Enigma since it's a small theater gig and TFB since she didn't have any budget). The BTWB literally has the best stage ever… I can even say that it's the best tour ever. Come for me if you want, but the vocals, the stage, the effects, the outfits, the choreo, the message, the fact that there was no screen, the fact that no tour has ever given so much life to the songs… Gosh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borislshere 53,080 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 I completely disagree. I had nose bleed seats when I went in middle school and it was the best experience of my life. I’ve gone to the art rave, JWT and a Beyoncé concert and none of them have even come close to the monster ball 2.0 experience. It was a concert truly for the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieJudasGaga4 67,907 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Also, all of you guys paying the C2C tour to dust. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy232000 11,635 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 40 minutes ago, KEVIN STEVE said: The JWT stage was pretty normal if you compare it to her other tours (not including Enigma since it's a small theater gig and TFB since she didn't have any budget). The BTWB literally has the best stage ever… I can even say that it's the best tour ever. Come for me if you want, but the vocals, the stage, the effects, the outfits, the choreo, the message, the fact that there was no screen, the fact that no tour has ever given so much life to the songs… Gosh I agree! the BTWB is the superior tour of hers. To think she had to CLIBM latters up FIVE stories every night just to reach certain places of the castle is just ugh her mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 hours ago, KatieJudasGaga4 said: Also, all of you guys paying the C2C tour to dust. I mean she's cute but J + P reigns superior I'm sorry ma'am! 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 4 hours ago, melon said: I am still so salty I’ve never seen her live JWT cancellation killed me Ugh. And it was her best tour Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJRocketMan 2,684 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 4 hours ago, andy232000 said: I agree! the BTWB is the superior tour of hers. To think she had to CLIBM latters up FIVE stories every night just to reach certain places of the castle is just ugh her mind You mean stairs, hunty, not ladders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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