TimisaMonster 31,073 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Rich people must get bored when they make so much and dont know what else to spend it on once you have the mansion and cars and all your needs taken care of...you just splurge I'm not into cars and see no reason to spend that much on one but his money so whatever Stream my new single, 💜"Heartbeat"💜, on Spotify! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, ChromeAngel said: So dumb. That could help SO MANY people. I don’t know who this man is, but almost everyone works hard. My mother, who’s technically under the poverty line, has worked 2-3 jobs her entire life and still makes sandwiches to bring to the homeless. People are so greedy. I hate the idea that rich people work harder. How about the woman in Africa who walk miles every day to bring water to their villages?? No one is saying they work harder. Ronaldo donates a lot to charity, actually a quick Google search would tell you he is one of the most charitable sportsman in the world. The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirages 20,259 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, Miracle said: Charity isn't the only thing you can help people. I'd say it's the more inefficient. March for people's rights, don't harm the environment, vote those parties who are willing to increase the rich taxes in favor of free education and health. Yeah you can do those things... Still like why not enjoy money when you have it. I'm the bitch that's fragile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampool 5,560 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, ChromeAngel said: I disagree with literally every point you made. The difference is this person could spend 99.9% of his money and still have more than enough. While most others are living paycheck to paycheck. If I donated the same percentage these people should then I would be able to afford food, rent or utilities. And no, rich people do not have to be “extraordinary”. If you were born white, in a first world country, and with resources you are going to succeed because you have a head start on everyone else. Most of it is luck. The issues is that there’s this huge problem wealth and money worship Not in his case, he’s a soccer player. His job is literally to compete against teams that consist of players from different races and countries. Being awarded FIFAs ‘Player of the year’ 5 times isn’t something one can fake. It has nothing to do with luck or a “head start” since her grew up in a poor family; it’s pure hustle and grind to be the best. He earned his title and wealth through his talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delusional Aura 5,129 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Economy said: I wasn't criticizing Ronaldo himself as an individual. I was criticizing the way the world's economic system works more than anything Yeah he worked hard for it absolutely.... But there's countless ppl who work very hard in life and get nothing for it. You can do the exact same job as someone else in another country and get a totally different wage. Heck you can live in the SAME Country and get a different wage simply based on which company you got in that had an opening available at the time. The free market does a terrible job of rewarding people proportionally to how hard they work. It's not some system that says for X amount of hours studying or working or X amount of risk taking you get this much reward. It's not even close That's part of the reason im a little more left on the political spectrum than I used to be (tho by GGD standards im pretty right winged still) I just don't buy the work hard propaganda anymore if you wanna be successful. Yes we should all strive to work hard and make the best of our situation, but it's not like people are all equally compensated for it, not even close! But it's what you work hard doing. If you're working three jobs as an assistant manager, cashier and part time waiter, do you expect to get paid as much as a cardiothorastic surgeon? Ofc not. This is one of the main reasons why taking a far left wing ideology like socialism is detrimental to human development. It destroys those who do, sorry to say it, but more important jobs than the rest. Because everybody will then ask what's the point of working so hard if i can't enjoy it. Now you may say is football really that important. We're on GGD so I guess the concensus would be no. Worldwide football is the most popular sport and the consumers of the sport fund these clubs. You get paid based on how much money you can make a football club. You also have endorsements from brands. This is what business is. Make money from whatever you can. It's all about what you work hard doing. It's sad yes but we as humans have to adapt to change and find ways in which we can make money. This is just my opinion by the way and I truly believe that it's not about how hard you work, it's about what you work hard doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChromeAngel 3,230 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 40 minutes ago, sampool said: Not in his case, he’s a soccer player. His job is literally to compete against teams that consist of players from different races and countries. Being awarded FIFAs ‘Player of the year’ 5 times isn’t something one can fake. It has nothing to do with luck or a “head start” since her grew up in a poor family; it’s pure hustle and grind to be the best. He earned his title and wealth through his talent. His job is literally to play a game. Nobody needs that much money sis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampool 5,560 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, ChromeAngel said: His job is literally to play a game. Nobody needs that much money sis It’s not up to him 💀 high demand sis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 51,722 Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 50 minutes ago, Delusional Aura said: But it's what you work hard doing. If you're working three jobs as an assistant manager, cashier and part time waiter, do you expect to get paid as much as a cardiothorastic surgeon? Ofc not. This is one of the main reasons why taking a far left wing ideology like socialism is detrimental to human development. It destroys those who do, sorry to say it, but more important jobs than the rest. Because everybody will then ask what's the point of working so hard if i can't enjoy it. Now you may say is football really that important. We're on GGD so I guess the concensus would be no. Worldwide football is the most popular sport and the consumers of the sport fund these clubs. You get paid based on how much money you can make a football club. You also have endorsements from brands. This is what business is. Make money from whatever you can. It's all about what you work hard doing. It's sad yes but we as humans have to adapt to change and find ways in which we can make money. This is just my opinion by the way and I truly believe that it's not about how hard you work, it's about what you work hard doing. I don't. Disagree with u tho. I know ppl want an incentive to work hard. We need that for ppl to strive. Should higher skilled important jobs get more money than low skilled unimportant jobs anyone can do? Of course otherwise why go to Colledge or university of ur not gonna get more out of it? But in saying the system only works to reward hard workers partially because it's not really proportionate A CEO despite having a more important and stressful job and needing more skills to do his job does not work 200X or ever worked that much harder than the average employee did yet his wage compensation can be that many times or more than the typical worker Like no one in my opinion is smart enough or works hard enough to justify making $50 Million a year... And the rich once rich can just stay on top by investing and growing stocks etc with like no effort So the system is unfair because luck is involved as well and so are opportunities you come across. It's not like if you work twice as hard as someone it means u get twice the income. The free market just does a terrible job at rewarding the right amount based on merit While I don't support some extreme left ideas like a 70% tax on wealthy because if the impact it would have on entrepreneurship and investment... I still think we need some degree of redistribution to be more fair cuz capitalism on its own may encourage hard work but it's far from fair and screws a lot of people over tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 51,722 Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, ChromeAngel said: I disagree with literally every point you made. The difference is this person could spend 99.9% of his money and still have more than enough. While most others are living paycheck to paycheck. If I donated the same percentage these people should then I would be able to afford food, rent or utilities. And no, rich people do not have to be “extraordinary”. If you were born white, in a first world country, and with resources you are going to succeed because you have a head start on everyone else. Most of it is luck. The issues is that there’s this huge problem wealth and money worship There's white people born in first world nations that are born in poor families I think sometimes ppl overestimate the power of white privilege. Y'all make it sound like ur guaranteed to succeed and can't fail cuz of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 He buys cars for 13 million bucks but can't bother to pay his taxes? Alright Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miracle 14,068 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, Economy said: I don't. Disagree with u tho. I know ppl want an incentive to work hard. We need that for ppl to strive. Should higher skilled important jobs get more money than low skilled unimportant jobs anyone can do? Of course otherwise why go to Colledge or university of ur not gonna get more out of it? But in saying the system only works to reward hard workers partially because it's not really proportionate A CEO despite having a more important and stressful job and needing more skills to do his job does not work 200X or ever worked that much harder than the average employee did yet his wage compensation can be that many times or more than the typical worker Like no one in my opinion is smart enough or works hard enough to justify making $50 Million a year... And the rich once rich can just stay on top by investing and growing stocks etc with like no effort So the system is unfair because luck is involved as well and so are opportunities you come across. It's not like if you work twice as hard as someone it means u get twice the income. The free market just does a terrible job at rewarding the right amount based on merit While I don't support some extreme left ideas like a 70% tax on wealthy because if the impact it would have on entrepreneurship and investment... I still think we need some degree of redistribution to be more fair cuz capitalism on its own may encourage hard work but it's far from fair and screws a lot of people over tbh Is that even an extreme left measure? Denmark had, at one point, a 62% marginal tax rate. Similar to Sweden's now. The coalitions in power are definitely not anywhere near extreme-left, as mostly liberals and social democrats govern in those countries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 51,722 Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Miracle said: Is that even an extreme left measure? Denmark had, at one point, a 62% marginal tax rate. Similar to Sweden's now. The coalitions in power are definitely not anywhere near extreme-left, as mostly liberals and social democrats govern in those countries Those countries are more left by nature tho. Centre wing there is very left by say US Standards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miracle 14,068 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Economy said: Those countries are more left by nature tho. Centre wing there is very left by say US Standards I don't know specifically about the nature of Nordic countries and how their centre wing would compare to for example, the centre-"left", but I can tell you Spain's liberal country is as right-leaning as the right when asked about taxation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KURUSHITOVSKA 20,451 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Mirages said: What's that got to do with him buying a car? Like I don't like it when people do this. I've had people ask me - how can you buy such expensive clothes and a second home, when some people don't have roof over their heads and food on their table? I can buy it cause I ****ing worked for it and really hard and I deserve it for that and it's not like I don't do charity cause I do and so does Cristiano. So he bought an expensive car, so what, he earned the money, he worked for it. And he does give out money to charity and a lot if you actually follow him you'd knew he's been at the top of most charitable sports celbrities for multiple years donated over 5 million USD to Nepal in 2015 after the earthquakes and other sums to orphans in Syria, schools in Gaza, regularly donates blood and does tons more of social work, which he doesn't have to, but he does. Let the man breathe and enjoy the money he earned. He earned it by being completely overpaid, soccer players really don't deserve that much money for what they do. There's people literally saving LIVES, doctors, nurses, surgeons, that don't earn even 1/10 of what soccer players get paid. That's the thing. ¿Qué currículum tiene ésta tarántula? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delusional Aura 5,129 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 43 minutes ago, Economy said: I don't. Disagree with u tho. I know ppl want an incentive to work hard. We need that for ppl to strive. Should higher skilled important jobs get more money than low skilled unimportant jobs anyone can do? Of course otherwise why go to Colledge or university of ur not gonna get more out of it? But in saying the system only works to reward hard workers partially because it's not really proportionate A CEO despite having a more important and stressful job and needing more skills to do his job does not work 200X or ever worked that much harder than the average employee did yet his wage compensation can be that many times or more than the typical worker Like no one in my opinion is smart enough or works hard enough to justify making $50 Million a year... And the rich once rich can just stay on top by investing and growing stocks etc with like no effort So the system is unfair because luck is involved as well and so are opportunities you come across. It's not like if you work twice as hard as someone it means u get twice the income. The free market just does a terrible job at rewarding the right amount based on merit While I don't support some extreme left ideas like a 70% tax on wealthy because if the impact it would have on entrepreneurship and investment... I still think we need some degree of redistribution to be more fair cuz capitalism on its own may encourage hard work but it's far from fair and screws a lot of people over tbh I understand, that's the world we live in. The government has a major part to play as well and if something isn't done, it'll just get worst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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