ice bear 1 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (Mah gawd i seriously didn't know that was a slang '-' sorry, i think hip hop is the literal thing so i'm replacing with that) Just a thought i'm having lately, i really like when Gaga does something "urban pop" like Partynauseous and Cake like Lady Gaga (yah i know it's a humorous track) sad she didn't release any of those... When i say urban i don't mean full on spitting bars, basically something like Miley's Bangerz, Rihanna's Anti and Lana's Born to Die There's bits of that in the bridges from Judas, ARTPOP and Bad Romance, they are kind of hip hop oriented, and i'd really love to see her doing an album with that sound some day Now, i know it wouldn't be popular... but a delusional monster can dream can't it? I'd love to sing something like "lady gaga in this bitch" on karaokes edit: also if you guys know any artist like that please let me know ice heard one side from above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastertoyo 22,728 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Born to Die is not ratchet please enlighten me to death Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectExca 636 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Please, quickly change the title from "ratchet" to urban. That is the word you are looking for and some monsters here might take offense. "Urban" refers to African-American influenced music (essentially). Rachet is a distasteful slang word. Ik you had good intentions though The sun will rise each day. Will you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Nook 37,807 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Born to Die ain’t ratchet High By the Beach alone sounds more ratchet than that album Uh Red Wine... Convict... Gah Gah... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matangi 3,050 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, EmperorExca said: Please, quickly change the title from "ratchet" to urban. That is the word you are looking for and some monsters here might take offense. "Urban" refers to African-American influenced music (essentially). Rachet is a distasteful slang word. Ik you had good intentions though "urban" is still really not accurate and is often just conflated with "black" or "ethnic." It should just say hip-hop influenced lol, thats what they were describing with PARTYNAUSEOUS and Cake Like Lady Gaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectExca 636 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Matangi said: "urban" is still really not accurate and is often just conflated with "black" or "ethnic." It should just say hip-hop influenced lol, thats what they were describing with PARTYNAUSEOUS and Cake Like Lady Gaga. R n B is also heavily African American influenced and is considered urban. It's not hip hop. Urban is the correct term in some cases when used right. ( the lines are a little blurred though) Second Time Around (unreleased) is a good example of an urban tinged pop song. The sun will rise each day. Will you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matangi 3,050 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, EmperorExca said: R n B is also heavily African American influenced and is considered urban. It's not hip hop. Urban is the correct term in some cases when used right. ( the lines are a little blurred though) Second Time Around (unreleased) is a good example of an urban tinged pop song. true, I just think as you point out well above "ratchet," is misused often and can be pejorative, but I feel it really often is said in place of contemporary hip-hop sounds and attitudes and styles. Second Time Around is more RnB yes, but the OP listed all examples that directly pull from hip-hop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice bear 1 Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 38 minutes ago, Blastertoyo said: Born to Die is not ratchet Check the material that didn't make the cut ice heard one side from above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice bear 1 Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 34 minutes ago, EmperorExca said: Please, quickly change the title from "ratchet" to urban. That is the word you are looking for and some monsters here might take offense. "Urban" refers to African-American influenced music (essentially). Rachet is a distasteful slang word. Ik you had good intentions though really didn't know, not native speaker, i supposed it was kind of genre related ice heard one side from above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastertoyo 22,728 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, LanaDelGrant said: Check the material that didn't make the cut Ok then you should clarify that you don’t actually mean the album Born to Die then please enlighten me to death Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice bear 1 Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Blastertoyo said: Ok then you should clarify that you don’t actually mean the album Born to Die then actually i mean it The way she sings in many parts of the record is described as a form os spoken word - rap, for instance, most of national anthem, the verses on blue jeans, and how she adds "dialogue" over the melodic part of born to die the song, she was heavily influenced by that, now i do recon it is not "ratchet" since i just discovered that's a bad word haha, "born to die is hip hop" but her unreleased tracks from this era/Pre-paradise are more explicitly influenced by it, Live or Die is the most clear example i can think of ice heard one side from above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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