Whispering 18,865 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, nicolasrumet said: 1. OJ Simpson was not found "not guilty". It was a mistrial. In case you don't know what it means, when a jury fails to reach a unanimous verdict, it declares a "mistrial". It doesn't acquit the defendant, it simply restarts the trial with a new jury. OJ Simpson was found to be Not Guilty by a Jury of his peers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayria 463 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 On 3/18/2019 at 5:21 PM, Adakam said: hE sLePt iN tHe SaMe BeD wItH tHe BoYs!! ThAtS aBsOlUte EvIdEnCE! LmFaO!!! What a shameful post. Let’s not be flippant about sexual assault allegations. If these were little girls sleeping with a grown man, MJ would be alive and locked behind bars. I am autistic (on the spectrum) and have a great sense of intuition and a great sense of honesty and James and Wade were very credible through most of the doc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayria 463 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 On 3/18/2019 at 4:19 PM, MarriedToMusic said: This. They have the same attorneys. Taken from Wade's own emails during the discovery phase in their lawsuit, in 2012 he was actively researching prior MJ allegations, tabloid news reports, MJ hater websites & books on paedophilia plus hounding his mother with hundreds of questions because he couldn't actually remember much about Neverland, all to help build his story of "abuse". The director tried to lie and say they haven't been in contact yet they admitted under deposition they have been. When you actually read Safechuck's lawsuit, it's like a copy and paste job from Wade. Their attorneys who specialise in multi-million dollar settlements in sex abuse cases, have a history of victim fishing, false accusations and using the media to smear people. Can you provide evidence for the claims in your post? I don’t see why a YouTube vid is more credible than an HBO documentary. I need MJ stans to start using receipts because there is a serious amount of misinformation floating around that they perpetuate. I’m here for the truth y’all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarriedToMusic 110 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Ayria said: Can you provide evidence for the claims in your post? I don’t see why a YouTube vid is more credible than an HBO documentary. I need MJ stans to start using receipts because there is a serious amount of misinformation floating around that they perpetuate. I’m here for the truth y’all. You can keep your snarky tone for someone who gives a ****. I'm an adult and will be spoken to like one. Everything in my post is straight out of the court findings. He did SEND himself links to "MJFacts" a notorious hater website. He knew he got caught then blatantly lied under oath that he didn't "know" what the site was! He was researching prior claims of abuse, for example he sent an email about a claim from a security guard - a member of the "Neverland 5" who got fired for stealing/sued for wrongful termination and LOST then went on to sell bogus stories to the tabloids for thousands. Yet his own mother responded that it wasn't true. This exact story would later appear in Wade's complaint, as if he had experienced it first hand. He did send his mother dozens of questions about Neverland, some of which can be seen here: https://www.scribd.com/document/336110667/Robson-Emails There are hundreds of more emails that were presented as evidence in court that prove my claims about his other research, however only 42 pages were released publicly for privacy reasons. We do however KNOW the contents due to the questions that were raised in deposition. Moving along, Wade's attorney Johh Manly DOES have a history of victim fishing. http://www.themediareport.com/2012/11/13/john-manly-fished-victims-fr-michael-kelly/ They even tried to contact another child friend of MJ's - Jonathan Spence. When he said no, they went on to try to subpenoa him and his medical & psychotherapeutic records with absolutely no justification. Spence had to hire representation and file for a protective order just to stop being harassed by Wade's legal team. You can take a look at their website for yourself and see they specialize in HUGE multi-million & billion settlements in sex abuse cases. https://www.californiasexualabusefirm.com They've already created a page looking for more "Survivors" to join Wade's lawsuit from Leaving Neverland: https://www.californiasexualabusefirm.com/finding-neverland-survivors/ You starting to see how this is really just about $$$ yet? And that youtube video has more sourced facts than the entire 4 hour HBO documentary, which didn't even TRY to verify any claims presented by the accusers HBO knows there is NO libel laws to protect the dead, that's all the "research" they needed to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayria 463 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, MarriedToMusic said: You can keep your snarky tone for someone who gives a ****. I'm an adult and will be spoken to like one. Everything in my post is straight out of the court findings. He did SEND himself links to "MJFacts" a notorious hater website. He knew he got caught then blatantly lied under oath that he didn't "know" what the site was! He was researching prior claims of abuse, for example he sent an email about a claim from a security guard - a member of the "Neverland 5" who got fired for stealing/sued for wrongful termination and LOST then went on to sell bogus stories to the tabloids for thousands. Yet his own mother responded that it wasn't true. This exact story would later appear in Wade's complaint, as if he had experienced it first hand. He did send his mother dozens of questions about Neverland, some of which can be seen here: https://www.scribd.com/document/336110667/Robson-Emails There are hundreds of more emails that were presented as evidence in court that prove my claims about his other research, however only 42 pages were released publicly for privacy reasons. We do however KNOW the contents due to the questions that were raised in deposition. Moving along, Wade's attorney Johh Manly DOES have a history of victim fishing. http://www.themediareport.com/2012/11/13/john-manly-fished-victims-fr-michael-kelly/ For example they tried to contact another child friend of MJ's - Jonathan Spence. When he said no, they went on to try to subpenoa him and even his medical & psychotherapeutic records with absolutely no justification. Spence had to hire representation and file for a protective order just to stop being harassed by Wade's legal team. You can take a look at their website for yourself and see they specialize in HUGE multi-million & billion settlements in sex abuse cases. https://www.californiasexualabusefirm.com They've already created a page looking for more "victims" to join Wade's lawsuit from Leaving Neverland: https://www.californiasexualabusefirm.com/finding-neverland-survivors/ Again the legal recourse taken by Wade was obviously HORRENDOUSLY handled at the beginning, but I still don’t believe MJ is innocent. Safechuck is the one who convinced me personally. And again if they lost the original suit than why would LN automatically make them millionaires. I think Wade likely wanted to beef up his case because he had a foggy memory due to his age (7). James seems much more cognizant of what happened. Again victims of sex abuse are allowed to sue estates of dead people. This definitely casts doubt on Wade, but there’s still so much compelling evidence from James and the other trials that I find it hard to believe Wade fabricated his entire story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickens in Malibu 7,873 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 7 hours ago, myluis617 said: Wait so not even accounts taken by FBI agents are not enough proof? I'm sure they could not fully use the statement made about the 13-year-old on the train cart because it was not hard evidence to prove Michael was a pedophile. Either way, if it was not hard concrete evidence it should raise alarms that many people around him have raised an eyebrow to how Micheal would act with young kids. Now I'm sure the person the FBI interviewed is not somebody who has been making a lot of money with their story cause this is the first time I hear about it. The excuse a lot of Michael fans want to make is that people around him just wanted money, such an easy excuse that veils the judgment of many Michael Stans. Accounts taken by FBI agents? That's a record of a call to the Child Services from a random caller. It's speculative and inconclusive. Why do you think the FBI didn't enter it as evidence in the trial? So again, you guys just rush to concluding someone is guilty based on the slightest evidence there is. If someday you get falsely accused of something, you'll realize for yourself why presumption of innocence is very much needed in our society. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickens in Malibu 7,873 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Whispering said: OJ Simpson was found to be Not Guilty by a Jury of his peers. That's right, my bad. I confused him with Bill Cosby (the one who faced similar sexual assault allegations). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 https://www.mjfacts.com/category/debunking-mj-apologist-lies/ I will just leave this here ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickens in Malibu 7,873 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Andy McQueen said: https://www.mjfacts.com/category/debunking-mj-apologist-lies/ I will just leave this here ... Wow we really didn't know that the case wasn't lead by the FBI but Santa Maria Sheriff's office. We really didn't know that it's not a federal crime and thus the FBI would be providing investigative assistance but not filing the charges themselves because it's outside their jurisdiction. Bring something new. We all know the charges were not filed by the FBI, but the FBI did participate in the investigation and searched for evidence on MJ. You act as if the FBI wasn't involved at all. In fact it was involved extensively, since it had to examine and look for evidence that is on the federal/international level as well. They simply didn't have the jurisdiction to be leading the case themselves in court. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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