Pennywise 36,079 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Stop saying "stop whining". Honestly people have every right to whine. People whining doesn't change that of course this is beneficial for Gaga and of course it is good that she can rest and still be successful. This, however, doesn't change the fact that it is not fair for monsters outside US. And she doesn't have to be "fair" at all, because you can never be fair for EVERY SINGLE FAN. However this still doesn't change the fact that people have a right to be mad about not having a chance to see her. I only ever saw her with artRave, and it was a shitty stadium concert. It was the only time she came to my country. And I don't have the money or the time to visit her overseas. I sure am mad about the Vegas thing. But I still support her decisions. I can support something and still be mad about it. So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, JR Gg said: Because travelling around the world actually strains her health even with loose schedules. Fibromyalgia flares because of many reasons, and doesn't just disappear because you have enough rest. Then she shouldn't do Vegas either tbh Don't tell me that show multiple times a week for two years and possibly more isn't straining her health. As I already said: an international tour isn't the only thing she could do to solve her problem. I just don't get why everyone keeps pretending Vegas was her only option. It wasn't. She chose it for many reasons and her health was not her number one concern, so her fans should stop bringing it up every time We all know she's not capable of doing a world tour anymore but that doesn't automatically translate to a 2+ year Vegas residency wtf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa 19,704 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, Didymus said: But that's something totally different than "she has to do Vegas because of her physical issues be grateful!!!" though, and that was my point This has almost nothing to do with her illness. She just doesn't want to tour and she wants to stay home while earning lots of money. Simple as that. The only people making it complicated are the ones who are trying to pretend she's doing this for her health because they know deep inside she just couldn't be bothered to do a show for her international fans. Travelling the world for months and months, even if it's spread out a little, is very different than being able to go home and sleep in your own bed after a show. By being in Vegas she can be near her own health team, all her regular doctors/therapists etc that can't come on the road with her. Saying "she just can't be bothered" is ludicrous in my opinion, she obviously cares very much about her fans, and has tried to do a world tour and failed repeatedly. She is doing what is best for herself and her health, period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGMonster95 13,704 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Just now, Didymus said: But that's something totally different than "she has to do Vegas because of her physical issues be grateful!!!" though, and that was my point This has almost nothing to do with her illness. She just doesn't want to tour and she wants to stay home while earning lots of money. Simple as that. The only people making it complicated are the ones who are trying to pretend she's doing this for her health because they know deep inside she just couldn't be bothered to do a show for her international fans. Traveling was a big part of the reason why her health got worse during her Joanne tour. By doing a vegas residency she can have a break of that, be close to her family and still do what she likes aka shows while getting some money too because at the end of the day she's a business woman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, LaLa said: Travelling the world for months and months, even if it's spread out a little, is very different than being able to go home and sleep in your own bed after a show. By being in Vegas she can be near her own health team, all her regular doctors/therapists etc that can't come on the road with her. But again, who's saying she has to do a world tour for months and months? No one's expecting that anymore. But, once more, why are so many fans pretending that Vegas is somehow the only possible solution? Again, why not livestream specially created separate performances? Why not just work on more music and release and promote that instead of focusing on performing one show in one place for 2+ years? I get why staying in the US is beneficial for her. But to me that has nothing to do with her specific choice to do Vegas and I wish fans would stop implying that Gaga didn't have other options. 4 minutes ago, LGMonster95 said: Traveling was a big part of the reason why her health got worse during her Joanne tour. By doing a vegas residency she can have a break of that, be close to her family and still do what she likes aka shows while getting some money too because at the end of the day she's a business woman Read above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Gg 12,985 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Didymus said: Then she shouldn't do Vegas either tbh Don't tell me that show multiple times a week for two years and possibly more isn't straining her health. As I already said: an international tour isn't the only thing she could do to solve her problem. I just don't get why everyone keeps pretending Vegas was her only option. It wasn't. She chose it for many reasons and her health was not her number one concern, so her fans should stop bringing it up every time We all know she's not capable of doing a world tour anymore but that doesn't automatically translate to a 2+ year Vegas residency wtf. Yeah, it is less straining for her health. Because the multiple times a week you mention is 2 - 3 times at max. And it's at the same location so she doesn't need to travel. It's not like you actually know anything about her health Are people pretending that Vegas is her only option for her health tho? No. They are just saying Vegas is good for her health. And nobody said it was the number one reason for doing Vegas. So you should stop complaining about it because there is no way she is going to revert her decision. Plus, what should she do if not Vegas then? Your ideal option is doing an international tour. But is that the only and best option though? Do multiple festivals around the world? But what would she be doing during the other 95% of the time though? Releasing a new album and promoting it? What if she's still creating it though? And livestreaming is the dumbest idea because she won't earn any income and bitches will still complain about not witnessing it live. Stop pretending Vegas is a BAD option for Gaga because IT'S JUST NOT WHAT YOU WANT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa 19,704 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, Didymus said: Then she shouldn't do Vegas either tbh Don't tell me that show multiple times a week for two years and possibly more isn't straining her health. As I already said: an international tour isn't the only thing she could do to solve her problem. I just don't get why everyone keeps pretending Vegas was her only option. It wasn't. She chose it for many reasons and her health was not her number one concern, so her fans should stop bringing it up every time We all know she's not capable of doing a world tour anymore but that doesn't automatically translate to a 2+ year Vegas residency wtf. But she isn't doing the show multiple times a week every week for the 2-3 years, and that's the big difference! She has months off between legs. After Feb 3 she's off until June, when she does 2 weeks of shows and is off again until October. That type of schedule is just not practical for a world tour that's very expensive to produce and move around. A residence somewhere is really the only option for that, and Vegas is really the only place with the money she would want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGMonster95 13,704 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Didymus said: But again, who's saying she has to do a world tour for months and months? No one's expecting that anymore. But, once more, why are so many fans pretending that Vegas is somehow the only possible solution? Again, why not livestream specially created separate performances? Why not just work on more music and release and promote that instead of focusing on performing one show in one place for 2+ years? I get why staying in the US is beneficial for her. But to me that has nothing to do with her specific choice to do Vegas and I wish fans would stop implying that Gaga didn't have other options. Read above. Nobody is saying that she didn't had other options but for her Vegas was a good option while having a break from touring + having a good place to be creative with her shows and also other reasons that others said here. Also who says that she's not working on music during this time? She'll most probably have the most time for both her music and movie career now. Let's just stop this nonsense, Gaga obviously cares about her fans and there are many other reasons why she choosed this that we don't know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 @JR Gg @LaLa @LGMonster95 Just to be clear, I don't like Enigma but I love Jazz & Piano and I don't think I ever posted on this forum that she made a bad decision by doing Vegas, I've just seen a lot of fans who seem to suggest that it is all she could do for her health when that just doesn't make sense to me, as that's only one (small) part for why she chose to do the residency at all. I do care about her health and I don't want her to tour anymore btw, I really don't. I just don't want some fans (clearly not you though, since I really like your opinions and agree with them) to create this whole "she was basically obliged to do Vegas 'cause what else was she gonna do!!!" narrative which simply isn't accurate. She had other choices but she chose Vegas for many reasons, most of which we probably won't know about But I don't think it's a bad decision. I just don't like fans who make others feel bad for being upset that they don't get to really enjoy anything performance-related right now. They have the right to be upset because Gaga hasn't addressed the fact that she can't tour anymore rn and she's, as of yet, not doing anything to soften the wound (that could obviously change in the next coming months/years but just sayin', not right now). It's ok to admit that. Anyway, just wanted to clarify, I'm not trying to run her career or tell her what she has to do. Just don't like the messy "stop whining this is her health!!!" argumentation. This is only a little bit about her health and international fans have the right to share their opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa 19,704 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 @Didymus I do think I understand what you're saying. But when I (and others) mention her health, it's usually in response to someone who doesn't seem to understand the realities of fibromyalgia. Lots of people say things like "oh, she should take a rest and then come on tour again". Lots of people are failing to realize that her condition is incurable, and she will have to carefully manage her health for the rest of her life. So it's good that you aren't screaming for a world tour starting tomorrow, but other people are, and they are the ones who usually get "but her health!!!" in response. And honestly, at the end of the day any "but it's unfair!!" arguments are gonna be met with an eye roll from me regardless (though I usually just won't comment). Life is unfair, nobody is owed anything. I 99% won't be seeing her in Vegas either, but if the ability to see someone live is a huge factor in whether you're a fan of them, Gaga probably isn't the answer lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, LaLa said: So it's good that you aren't screaming for a world tour starting tomorrow, but other people are, and they are the ones who usually get "but her health!!!" in response. Right, I get you. So we're basically both talking about other people and forgetting that not everyone is saying what we think they are Agreed though. Personally, I don't care about the "unfair" argument either because... if you really wanna see her, well, save some money and go see her, it's not as impossible as many people make it out to be here. It's either worth it or not, and if it's not worth the effort and the money then you probably shouldn't feel bad and just focus on something else. Harsh reality but you're right, that's how everything is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGMonster95 13,704 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, LaLa said: @Didymus I do think I understand what you're saying. But when I (and others) mention her health, it's usually in response to someone who doesn't seem to understand the realities of fibromyalgia. Lots of people say things like "oh, she should take a rest and then come on tour again". Lots of people are failing to realize that her condition is incurable, and she will have to carefully manage her health for the rest of her life. So it's good that you aren't screaming for a world tour starting tomorrow, but other people are, and they are the ones who usually get "but her health!!!" in response. And honestly, at the end of the day any "but it's unfair!!" arguments are gonna be met with an eye roll from me regardless (though I usually just won't comment). Life is unfair, nobody is owed anything. I 99% won't be seeing her in Vegas either, but if the ability to see someone live is a huge factor in whether you're a fan of them, Gaga probably isn't the answer lol I honestly think that she's gonna do another tour in the future but not at this time on her career. She's the type of artist that loves touring but at the past years she worked way too hard and stress occured which is why things happened to her, she needs a break tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anisko Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 3 hours ago, JR Gg said: Because travelling around the world actually strains her health even with loose schedules. Fibromyalgia flares because of many reasons, and doesn't just disappear because you have enough rest. Do some research before you try to sound like you know her health or her career options better than herself. Because you've been attacking Vegas and Enigma for a long time now. And you sound like a hater. Remember those stupid comments about Enigma you made despite not actually attending the show or watching a proper recording? Yeah, I do but of course you wanna attack her again now. If you don't like her career choices, don't be a fan. Simple as that. NOBODY IS STOPPING YOU. Before you bullshit something about 'I'm giving constructive feedback and criticism because I want her to improve'. Just note that, she will NEVER EVER somehow read your comments here. stop calling other fans with different opinions "haters" cause no one is better than anyone here in this fanbase .. we wall love gaga . and Constructive Criticism is allowed in this site . thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsmaelAdams 1 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I could never get to the Lady Gaga concerts. For me, the priority was to waste money into the casino. But it's all because of the reviews on the site. How to find out the next Lady Gaga concert program? Is there an official resource for selling tickets for it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I'm starting to believe she wants to rebrand herself. I've been thinking recently the Enigma show might possibly be the last that we see of the Gaga we came to know and love. I think she wants to stay in the US so she can pursue more of a Hollywood career rather than tour the world as a pop star. I think she will still make music but I think she will deviate from what we expect from her. I'm expecting a more mature look and sound from her in the future. I think the jazz and piano shows might be a sign of what's to come. I could be wrong and I hope I am tbh because I'll miss her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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