shoful 13,304 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Just now, SEANGT said: blaming an entire group of people based on one or even several criminals sounds like prejudice to me Um its facts.... The Democrats are vetoing those laws. How is me stating that prejudice... "My name is Dita, I'll be your Mistress tonight..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 2 hours ago, kyanewest said: There has been many cases of this happening, especially in Germany and France. You have to be careful and stop thinking everyone is nice and the world is made of rainbows and cookies 1 hour ago, shoful said: You can thank liberals for constantly blocking travel bans, creating sanctuary cities, and trying to abolish ICE. Good job guys! This is what happens Also, this isn't just one bad apple. This has been rampant the past couple months. Even if its few or most refugees aren't as bad as domestic citizens, just think these crimes could of have been prevented in the first place. Look at the democratic judge in New Mexico who is letting several individuals go who were training children to be terrorists. A child has died and the rest were abused. Thankfully one of the individuals is under Georgia law I think and will be punished appropriately This is just blatantly false and not a problem in the United States. Your characterization that this is a rampant problem is just that — and characterization based not on reality. There were 1,800 refugees admitted into the United States IN TOTAL in FY 2018. Something like less than a dozen of them were Muslim. You’re telling me there is a rampant ISIS infiltration problem? Get a grip, respectfully. — The ban was supposed to be on all Muslims globally. From Canada, the UK, All of Europe, etc. Not just from countries in turmoil. But when those plans were deemed unconstitutional, the Trump admin changed it to be a national security issue — which is BS. We have the ability to vet these people, and we did. Obama let in tens of thousands of Syrian/Mid East refugees and we haven’t had an attack. This is just fear mongering. Much of the problem in Europe is that the refugees were not in fact refugees, but instead they were asylum seakers — VERY different. Asylum seakers show up in the country and claim asylum. There were so many on the shores of Europe at the height of ISIS that they couldn’t and didn’t vet them all, which is how some ISIS members got to France, Brussels, etc. Idk if you’re aware, but there are not Mid East asylum seakers showing on on US coast lines. They apply with paper work to become asylum seakers and we require a lot of information to vet them before we let them come here. But with the state dep cuts under trump, we have less good vetting nowadays and republicans pretend we just don’t have the capacity to vet these people. WE DO! And we did! The world is not rainbows, true, but old policies were working as they were built to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petie Estie 5,704 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, shoful said: Um its facts.... The Democrats are vetoing those laws. How is me stating that prejudice... i'm talking about being anti-immigrant because some of them are criminals. Call your therapist...it's Petie Estie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoful 13,304 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, MJHolland said: This is just blatantly false and not a problem in the United States. Your characterization that this is a rampant problem is just that — and characterization based not on reality. There were 1,800 refugees admitted into the United States IN TOTAL in FY 2018. Something like less than a dozen of them were Muslim. You’re telling me there is a rampant ISIS infiltration problem? Get a grip, respectfully. — The ban was supposed to be on all Muslims globally. From Canada, the UK, All of Europe, etc. Not just from countries in turmoil. But when those plans were deemed unconstitutional, the Trump admin changed it to be a national security issue — which is BS. We have the ability to vet these people, and we did. Obama let in tens of thousands of Syrian/Mid East refugees and we haven’t had an attack. This is just fear mongering. Much of the problem in Europe is that the refugees were not in fact refugees, but instead they were asylum seakers — VERY different. Asylum seakers show up in the country and claim asylum. There were so many on the shores of Europe at the height of ISIS that they couldn’t and didn’t vet them all, which is how some ISIS members got to France, Brussels, etc. Idk if you’re aware, but there are not Mid East asylum seakers showing on on US coast lines. They apply with paper work to become asylum seakers and we require a lot of information to vet them before we let them come here. But with the state dep cuts under trump, we have less good vetting nowadays and republicans pretend we just don’t have the capacity to vet these people. WE DO! And we did! The world is not rainbows, true, but old policies were working as they were built to. My rampant claim wasn’t directed soley at muslims. I meant anyone sneaking into our country. And the purpose of the travel ban was to stop people from flooding in from those countries UNTIL we came up with the proper and adequate vetting techniques to make sure that no one coming into our country is harmful. My post was also referencing the swarm of illegals coming in from Mexico. A country without borders isn’t a country at all. We need to protect the people im our country first and then we can figure out ways to deal with outsiders. Yes I agree that domestic people in the US can be just as bad which is why I think we need to open government funded mental institutions again. Something that Bill Clinton shut down in the 90s. We need proper “vetting” for all people. Vetting for born citizens being those institutions or required mental examinations. "My name is Dita, I'll be your Mistress tonight..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoful 13,304 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, SEANGT said: i'm talking about being anti-immigrant because some of them are criminals. Thats not what I said at all but okay. Let me state it this way. If we did have the true travel ban wouldn’t it be true that this man couldn’t get into the country or to the least as easily as he did. Not saying all immigrants are bad but the travel ban could’ve attempted to prevent this and thats a fact "My name is Dita, I'll be your Mistress tonight..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaux 137 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 5 hours ago, shoful said: Thats not what I said at all but okay. Let me state it this way. If we did have the true travel ban wouldn’t it be true that this man couldn’t get into the country or to the least as easily as he did. Not saying all immigrants are bad but the travel ban could’ve attempted to prevent this and thats a fact You really should’ve made this stament in the first place. Lol. Making weird sensationalist claims at first usually gets you shut off from debating these topic because it can sound unhinged at times. Trumps travel ban was literally a joke and obviously had some major issues with pandering to like knee jerk racists. But he could’ve you can actually come up with something that’s safe and not just a weird reactionary move. I agree with you though. But most people who blame liberals or conservatives for everything are literally cognitively dissonant lol. Let’s stray away from that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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