Scarlett Johansson faces backlash for trans role

[Sweet Olive 422]

ACTORS ACT

[Claymore 671]

Some of y'all are being way too obtuse for your own good. But then again its GGD where empathy can only be shown towards white gay males.

[Gagadonna 10,801]

oh god can people stop complaining for once

[Gagadonna 10,801]

1 minute ago, Claymore said:

Some of y'all are being way too obtuse for your own good. But then again its GGD where empathy can only be shown towards white gay males.

only the hunty ones of course 

[Oriane 21,116]

I was against it when I saw the title. But now if I understand well, it's about a woman who hadn't undergone surgery or only supposedly. There's nothing to pretend here, Scarlett can play this role as well as any cis woman role. And a trans female who hasn't undergone any surgery could play any cis woman role too. I'm only against this but it's about roles like a disabled character, because a disabled actor couldn't play a non-disabled character (when it shows).

[FABian 852]

 blame the ones who pick the actresses, Not the actress.

 

 

[The Child 18,997]

11 minutes ago, FABian said:

 blame the ones who pick the actresses, Not the actress.

 

 

I’ll blame both the director and her cause no one forced her to accept the role plus it’s not the first time she does something like this.

[nikola 4,342]

But its ****ing acting.... str8 people act as gay character all the time.... its their jobs to act as other people and characters..... nothing wrong with that like are we gonna find dwars to act as dwars in lord of the rings.... or elf to act as legolas.... its acting...

 You find good actor(and scarlet is amazing actor) and give him or her a role.... its a job..... so what, are trans people going to act just as tran characters in the movies?.... let me tell you NO,THEY WILL NOT.

They will have str8 chatacter, gay characters... because its their job to act as diferent person.....

It would be same if gay people got angry for str8 actor having a gay character.... its just stupid...

People need to.sit the **** down and get off the internet because they get so butthurt ocer everything....

 

[ltlmnstr 2,771]

The Trans community just doesn't want to see cis actors in roles that are for them. They see it as the trans version of blackface. The cis actor will get all the credit of "oh how brave" and "was it so hard?" I don't see anything wrong with the Trans community demanding a seat at the table.

If the directors, handled this the way Dallas Buyers Club did by hiring a trans woman to coach the actor playing a trans woman, maybe I'll reconsider but, ultimately the Trans community gets the final say overall. 

And another thing, to say that to be "fully trans" you have to have surgery, is a misnomer. I know many trans people that are fine with just hormones. I know many trans people that are fine without top surgery/bottom surgery. To narrow the trans experience to just surgery is damaging and angles their lives as cosmetic choices. Surgery is life saving [for some] but it's not the be-all, end-all of the trans experience.

[LOVE JUNKIE 3,299]

22 hours ago, Haroon said:

Acting is acting  You don't need to face the same struggles or lead the same life as the character you're portraying. Also, at the end of the day the movie has to make money and famous faces are regularly used to promote movies.

I can't remember all of this backlash when Eddie Redmayne starred in The Danish Girl either  

There was backlash with the Danish Girl and Dallas Buyers Club. The trans community doesn't have a huge voice so I'm not surprised you didn't hear about the backlash. You can google it and see articles that were written about it at the time. Here's an excerpt from one about the casting of Eddie Redmayne in Danish Girl:
 

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"We’re told that it’s fine for a cis man to play a trans woman because ‘that’s the whole point of acting’ and ‘acting is about being something you’re not.’ Except that there is a very significant difference between taking on a minority identity and, say, playing a banker. Being trans is not something people can take on and off, set down at the end of the day... Playing at a career or life is not the same thing as depicting a minority identity when you don’t share it — Black women should be played by Black women, disabled men by disabled men, trans women by trans women, especially in biopics like this one.

It’s not as though there aren’t any trans actresses available — someone making a film about a transgender woman should perhaps research the trans community and explore trans talent before delving into production. Certainly casting directors should be tasked with finding trans talent, putting out calls to a variety of agents and through alternative media, if necessary, though trans actresses don’t exactly hide.

Or, they say, they had to be ‘true to the time’ and what Elbe, who didn’t receive HRT, would have looked like, so they’ve got to cast a man to capture that special testosterone feeling. Well, we know what she looked like. She looked like a woman. So possibly a woman should have been cast in her role."

http://globalcomment.com/the-danish-girl-casting-eddie-redmayne-is-transphobic/

 

Dante Gill was a man and looked like a man why not cast a man? Why cast a dainty feminine woman to dress up in drag it really doesn't make any damn sense

Here's a bit from an article about Leto:

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"Did the investors of the film decide it was too risky? Was it the director who felt that the trans people who auditioned were not good enough? Did the director even audition trans people?

I found my answer when I listened with jaw dropped to what director Jean-Marc Vallee had to say on CBC Radio about casting a trans person as the role of Rayon in Dallas Buyers Club. “Never,” he said. “Is there any transgender actor? To my knowledge — I don’t know one. I didn’t even think about it”. When the interviewer interjected with, “Of course there are transgender actors,” Vallee answered with, “Which ones? There’s like five, or three, or what — two? I never thought of that. I never thought of hiring a real rodeo guy to play the rodeo Ron Woodruff. And just like in every film — we’re actors, we’re directors. I’m not aiming for the real thing. I’m aiming for an experienced actor who wants to portray the thing.”

Vallee’s response makes me wonder if he would ever take, or has taken, the time to search for a black person to play the role of an essential black character in any of his films? Would he find it prudent to dress up a white man in brown make up, teach him how to “act black” and put him in the role simply because he just didn’t think about it, or because he thought black actors were just not experienced enough?"

Every year we have breakthrough performances by cisgender actors with relatively little experience. My personal favorite is Michelle Rodriguez in her role as Diana Guzman in Girlfight. Or more recently Barkhad Abdi, Barkhad Abdirahman, Faysal Ahmed, and Mahat M. ali in Captain Phillips. These four men with Somali roots were picked out of obscurity with little to no acting experience out of a casting call of around 700 men –Abdi was even nominated alongside Jared Leto for best supporting actor. Their superb acting abilities showed there are times when no previous acting experience is necessarily needed when one has authenticity.

How many trans people could become stars if just given a chance? How many more actors like Orange Is The New Black’s Laverne Cox are out there? Or are we to believe she is the only one? With the amount of time spent on Dallas Buyers Club, couldn’t the director have spent some of it on finding a trans actor? He could have come up with at least 10 trans actors within just a few minutes of a Google search, and way more if he actually thought about it.

http://time.com/12407/jared-leto-oscar-dallas-buyers-club-casting-trans-actors/

Let's start listening to trans people when it comes to their portrayal in film

 

[Regina George 59,387]

For Gods sake it’s just acting. People literally done this for years now. They could have literally cast male actor to play this role but they choose not to. It’s not common in Hollywood to find trans person that can act like her. She is talented and she’ll do this role justice. Honestly I can’t with overreaction in this thread. Everything is offensive now and no one seems to see this as representation of trans community in any way - but if you think about it it still is. 

[Claymore 671]

33 minutes ago, ReginaGeorge said:

For Gods sake it’s just acting. People literally done this for years now. They could have literally cast male actor to play this role but they choose not to. It’s not common in Hollywood to find trans person that can act like her. She is talented and she’ll do this role justice. Honestly I can’t with overreaction in this thread. Everything is offensive now and no one seems to see this as representation of trans community in any way - but if you think about it it still is. 

How about the cast of ''Pose''? Chock full of trans women giving Emmy worthy performances.  Or Daniela Vega in ''A Fantastic Woman'' (that won an Oscar for Best Foreign Picture)?

Acting like trans people are not being cast because they lack talent is gross.

[REALITY 76,787]

I personally don’t think it’s that big of a deal. It’s interesting cause I actually take more offense to the Ghost In The Shell situation than this, but I guess with that one, that was just completely unnecessary casting. 

I feel like this is like when people complained about Nick Robinson playing Simon in Love, Simon. I didn’t take offense when he played that role, and I don’t necessarily take offense to Scarlett playing this one. 

[Scathach 6,674]

Drag her   

 

And for everyone saying “ItS AcTiNg” educate yourself 

 

 

[Scathach 6,674]

8 minutes ago, Claymore said:

How about the cast of ''Pose''? Chock full of trans women giving Emmy worthy performances.  Or Daniela Vega in ''A Fantastic Woman'' (that won an Oscar for Best Foreign Picture)?

Acting like trans people are not being cast because they lack talent is gross.

Funny you mention Pose because the problematic gays on this thread are reacting just like when Blanca wanted to enter in the bar, if you understand what I mean...