SHALLOW 16,427 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 43 minutes ago, FrankGutz said: She also said that about ARTPOP and everyone hated her for that they ddidn't hate her for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGGrayson 9,670 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 1 minute ago, HYPODERMIC0 said: they ddidn't hate her for that. lot of BTW fans did 𝗟𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝗚𝗮𝗴𝗮 • 𝗠𝗮𝗻𝗱𝘆 𝗠𝗼𝗼𝗿𝗲 • 𝗦𝗼𝗽𝗵𝗶𝗲-𝗘𝗹𝗹𝗶𝘀 𝗕𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗼𝗿 • 𝗣𝗮𝗿𝗶𝘀 𝗝𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀𝗼𝗻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Slayer said: Because it's incredibly selfish to be thinking about how she's going to create 'masterpiece' based on the fact that she's probably in debilitating pain right now. I don't know how I can say it any clearer. Liking how you're pulling out the 'music is healing for Gaga' thing as though that's what this thread was about. but this thread is about that you should re-read the OP because you're taking it as something that it's not they're just saying that gaga's previous work that relates to her pain has been some of her best, it's not selfish to think about that happening for her next record since this is a big part of her life that she's now open about, it's realistic tbh we're fans of her artistry and some of her artistry involves her turning her pain into songs if they were saying "she BETTER create her BEST WORK EVER!!!" then yes, it would be but they're just speculating so chill https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer 9,227 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 28 minutes ago, John Wayne said: First of all, rude. Secondly, I said that she COULD transfer her pain into her artistry, not that she HAS to. Look at songs like Speechless, TEOG, MR, you can literally feel her pain from the music and these are some of her best songs. No one said that she is obliged to do what I’ve mentioned above. Kesha also did this with Praying and you can see the feedback yourself. I'm not disputing the fact that artists often create their best work while in pain. I'm saying it's selfish to even be thinking about that on the same day she's cancelled a tour because of her chronic pain. I love judas SO MUCH but I canʹt look like a copycat of JLO!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalsePromise 424 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 1 minute ago, John Wayne said: Not really. ARTPOP was hated by the GP and in a way she lost credibility as an artist in their eyes, but she brought it back with C2C. If only Joanne had half of the quality that C2C, in terms of production. I know those two are very different musically, but every Gaga album since BTW had a mess written all over it, in terms of sound, it's not polished enough, it's raw, tho I liked BTW's sound as a whole, ARTPOP was a mess in every sense, fun only to us fans, Joanne is underperformance again in terms of sound. I do believe the problem is with the people she works on every album, cuz it's mainly the same, they're her friends etc. but the results are also the same, C2C was better than all of them cuz someone really profesional worked on it and not Gaga's friends (yes DJWS and company). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer 9,227 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, ryanripley said: but this thread is about that you should re-read the OP because you're taking it as something that it's not they're just saying that gaga's previous work that relates to her pain has been some of her best, it's not selfish to think about that happening for her next record since this is a big part of her life that she's now open about, it's realistic tbh we're fans of her artistry and some of her artistry involves her turning her pain into songs if they were saying "she BETTER create her BEST WORK EVER!!!" then yes, it would be but they're just speculating so chill Omg you are just not getting it. The fact that this thread even exists is what I am taking issue with. We shouldn't be discussing how she might turn her pain into good music on the same day she's cancelled a tour because her body is in severe pain. It is tacky, disrespectful and SELFISH. I love judas SO MUCH but I canʹt look like a copycat of JLO!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, Slayer said: Omg you are just not getting it. The fact that this thread even exists is what I am taking issue with. We shouldn't be discussing how she might turn her pain into good music on the same day she's cancelled a tour because her body is in severe pain. It is tacky, disrespectful and SELFISH. nope, you're just on a high horse right now it's a forum and people are still allowed to discuss her music and once again, you're still reaching like this thread is demanding hits from gaga. the start of the OP even mentions she should focus on healing so let's not, again, act like it's a thread demanding stuff from gaga the forum is not on shut down mode, people are still allowed to post https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wayne 4,505 Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, Slayer said: I'm not disputing the fact that artists often create their best work while in pain. I'm saying it's selfish to even be thinking about that on the same day she's cancelled a tour because of her chronic pain. I don't see where I'm being selfish here honestly, because I mentioned in the beginning that her health is her #1 priority. I don't demand music right away, I even said that she should take her time with this album in order to heal properly. I'm sorry if you feel offended by my timing, but I feel like you misinterpreted what I tried to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer 9,227 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 1 minute ago, ryanripley said: nope, you're just on a high horse right now it's a forum and people are still allowed to discuss her music and once again, you're still reaching like this thread is demanding hits from gaga. the start of the OP even mentions she should focus on healing so let's not, again, act like it's a thread demanding stuff from gaga the forum is not on shut down mode, people are still allowed to post Still think you're incredibly selfish and tacky. BYEEEEEEEEE. I love judas SO MUCH but I canʹt look like a copycat of JLO!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHALLOW 16,427 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, FrankGutz said: lot of BTW fans did BTW fans.... always hating on her best work,ARTPOP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melodean 8,329 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Well I still think Gaga is yet to give out her best work... She will bring something out that’s completely next level and legendary I just know it. Remember most artists have gone from being at the top to the bottom to rising back to the top again. But for now Gagas health is important more than anything 🤟🏻 https://open.spotify.com/track/7q1GGm2mBlC9hPWige0C6e?si=6b5319d0e3b44fa6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer 9,227 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, John Wayne said: I don't see where I'm being selfish here honestly, because I mentioned in the beginning that her health is her #1 priority. I don't demand music right away, I even said that she should take her time with this album in order to heal properly. I'm sorry if you feel offended by my timing, but I feel like you misinterpreted what I tried to say. I'm sure you didn't mean it in a disrespectful way, it just comes across that way to me. I love judas SO MUCH but I canʹt look like a copycat of JLO!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie 2,518 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Parach said: I'm gonna promote her new lead single by doing stiptease during it on p0rnhub, xhamster, all the p0rn sites. Something like Gimmie More except I'm fat, without tits, and doing helicopter diq I'll be waiting the link What if tomorrow I see you again? Should I say that I used to love you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie 2,518 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 27 minutes ago, HYPODERMIC0 said: they ddidn't hate her for that. True...they hated ARTPOP What if tomorrow I see you again? Should I say that I used to love you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie 2,518 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 24 minutes ago, FalsePromise said: If only Joanne had half of the quality that C2C, in terms of production. I know those two are very different musically, but every Gaga album since BTW had a mess written all over it, in terms of sound, it's not polished enough, it's raw, tho I liked BTW's sound as a whole, ARTPOP was a mess in every sense, fun only to us fans, Joanne is underperformance again in terms of sound. I do believe the problem is with the people she works on every album, cuz it's mainly the same, they're her friends etc. but the results are also the same, C2C was better than all of them cuz someone really profesional worked on it and not Gaga's friends (yes DJWS and company). Boohoo for you. You know she is working with DJWS so maybe you should leave for the next 2 eras and comeback later, save your ears for the quality What if tomorrow I see you again? Should I say that I used to love you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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