Chromatislaps 34,851 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 53 minutes ago, itsbriceidk said: not to mention anyone but P___ P___ is shook Mama P__ P__ P__fect Illusion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Married the Night 3,955 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Nah. That’s not that weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausofbrice 2,867 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 32 minutes ago, xoxoDerpanne said: Mama P__ P__ P__fect Illusion? P____ P____ is an illusion? im shook xoxo, brice ♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
melon 3,589 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I saw the film and it is really good, don't let people tell you what it is about/what it enforces because that is what they are choosing to believe it is about. At the end of the day being 17 is legal to consent in Italy and many other countries, so it may be uncomfortable for some people thinking about an age gap of 7 years, but from a legal perspective there is nothing wrong. Also the people saying it perpetuates a stereotype of gay men... this film is about the 1980s and coming to terms with oneself, teenagers nowadays do experience their first sexual encounters with older men often, but in the 1980s it was undoubtedly much much more widespread because people did not come out, or came out much later. (basically the film is accurate, you can choose to say that it perpetuates a stereotype, I choose to say it is trying to be true to what was and is an issue nowadays for the simple tragic reason that LGBT+ people are scared to accept themselves or have their loved ones not accept them) Personally I saw the film more as a raw portrayal of what many gay men must have faced growing up before our time, it made me feel thankful that I live in a time where being gay is much more accepted. Just go see it, it's beautifully shot and acted and makes you really think and at the end of the day, that's a good film. P.S. peaches show me to me please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trepadation 5,566 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, melon said: I saw the film and it is really good, don't let people tell you what it is about/what it enforces because that is what they are choosing to believe it is about. At the end of the day being 17 is legal to consent in Italy and many other countries, so it may be uncomfortable for some people thinking about an age gap of 7 years, but from a legal perspective there is nothing wrong. Also the people saying it perpetuates a stereotype of gay men... this film is about the 1980s and coming to terms with oneself, teenagers nowadays do experience their first sexual encounters with older men often, but in the 1980s it was undoubtedly much much more widespread because people did not come out, or came out much later. (basically the film is accurate, you can choose to say that it perpetuates a stereotype, I choose to say it is trying to be true to what was and is an issue nowadays for the simple tragic reason that LGBT+ people are scared to accept themselves or have their loved ones not accept them) Personally I saw the film more as a raw portrayal of what many gay men must have faced growing up before our time, it made me feel thankful that I live in a time where being gay is much more accepted. Just go see it, it's beautifully shot and acted and makes you really think and at the end of the day, that's a good film. P.S. peaches The perspective you brought is a very insightful one and changes the view on their relationship. Young people wouldn't come out so it would be realistic for him to find someone older. not the peach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuri 21,636 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Why are so worried about this movie age gap when there are seriously worse gaps in real life. Just because the boy is one year younger than your country's law says, means his judgement is hazey? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
androiduser 7,438 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I was in a relationship with a much older guy when I was 18, so for me this isn't problematic in the slightest. Now, looking back, I am not sure what I found in that man, and why I was attracted and in love with him, and it does seem like poor judgement from me at that time, but in the end I didn't get hurt and nothing regretful has happened in that relationship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poissonche 12,365 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 17 minutes ago, androiduser said: I was in a relationship with a much older guy when I was 18, so for me this isn't problematic in the slightest. Now, looking back, I am not sure what I found in that man, and why I was attracted and in love with him, and it does seem like poor judgement from me at that time, but in the end I didn't get hurt and nothing regretful has happened in that relationship. I've had crushes on people my age, and DAMN, some of them are shameful . I don't think age plays a large factor in cases like this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceOfTheStorm 5,904 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, ryanripley said: PeterPan: 5 Foot 2 realness Man, since @Saint Hollywood‘s influence, we were cracking those jokes during the AMA rabbit stream, and they are coming back to GGD. (Though they never left ) signing out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonSwiftAnton 3,746 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just finished the book an hour ago. Beautifully written story and in the end it made me cry up until this moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzGa 14,621 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Yeah, it's not smart for teenagers to become sexually involved with adults. The power imbalance almost always results in a broken heart at best, abuse and trauma at worse. But it's really pretty normal for an older teenager above the age of consent to desire and pursue romantic relationships with people in their early/mid 20s. I did it and many others have and will as well. We can't completely erase a trope that happens in real life to lots of people (dating someone 5 years older than you as an older teenager) from media and films, just because it's not a responsible life choice. People make films about "problematic" stuff all the time. It's called CONFLICT and it's what drives the plot of most books/shows/movies. A good, uplifting movie won't be free from "problematic" situations, but will instead be about overcoming the conflict and becoming stronger. A sad movie might result in a tragic resolution to the "problematic" situation. Both are valid ways to tell a story. We can't stop making movies about everything that's problematic lol. My old cat is a tough man, but i cant deny the way he bites my hand and he stabs me, he grabs me by my heart <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 18 hours ago, ryanripley said: PeterPan: 5 Foot 2 realness I SPAT my drink out End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 So is the boy bisexual then? Cause he seems to be in love with the girl and the man. If the ages are 17 and 24, by law thats okay. Personally I dont like an age difference of more than 5 years. It seems like the boy falls in love with the man and the man falls in love back rather than the man forcing the boy to do things. Or have I understood wrong? End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenIsHere 32 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 18 hours ago, Poissonche said: HAHAHA I find this funny, I'm 17 myself and went on two dates with a 23 year-old guy recently. Ok, he thought I was 18 at first and I'm kind of almost 18, so it's not the exact same thing as this movie, but still. I was a bit weirded out before the first date, but it was not weird in the end. I don't think you can call it problematic. ur ok with it. 17 and 24 eh its on the borderline of problematic but honestly it depends on where u live. Like Oklahoma age of consent is 16 while Illinois is 18. Its strange but it varies place to place. 17 isnt as bad as if the character was 14. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinmyhair 524 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Eh.. I don't think it's really problematic. People can find anything wrong with a movie. And just because it's showing it doesn't mean that it's 'right'. I read the book in anticipation for the film and I'm so excited omg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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