Melech 9,900 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 "The 88-year-old Ursula Haverbeck, who has several previous convictions all related to Holocaust denial, was on Monday found guilty of once again denying the mass murder of millions of Jews during the Nazi era in Germany, this time at an event in Berlin on January 30, 2016. Haverbeck will also stand trial in the western town of Detmold again on November 23. She had appealed two verdicts by a Detmold court, handed down for incitement to hatred after she sent a letter to Detmold's mayor and various media in which she refutes the genocide of Jews between 1941 and 1945. She once said on television that the Holocaust was "the biggest and most sustainable lie in history." German media have dubbed her the "Nazi grandma." At the Detmold trial earlier this year, she defiantly handed out a pamphlet titled "Only the truth will set you free" to journalists as well as the judge and the prosecutor. In it, she again denies the Nazi atrocities. Haverbeck and her late husband Werner Georg Haverbeck, who was an active NSDAP member in the run-up to and during World War II, founded a right-wing education center called Collegium Humanum, which has been banned since 2008. She has written for the right-wing magazine Stimme des Reiches (Voice of the Empire), in which she also denied the existence of the Holocaust. She has also filed charges against Germany's Central Council of Jews for "prosecuting innocent people." http://www.dw.com/en/holocaust-denier-ursula-haverbeck-88-given-six-month-jail-sentence/a-40966858 Swish swish bish another nazi in the basket Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berlinforme 5,391 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 One could say it’s ridiculous, she’s too old... but I say well-deserved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benKo 3,362 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Melech said: The 88-year-old Ursula Haverbeck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 minute ago, berlinforme said: One could say it’s ridiculous, she’s too old... but I say well-deserved. Tea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007 5,291 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 But gagadaily told me there’s freedom of speech and expression in the West, never knew it was selective Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake D 576 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, 2007 said: But gagadaily told me there’s freedom of speech and expression in the West, never knew it was selective Excuse me no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not The Real Gaga 7,594 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, 2007 said: But gagadaily told me there’s freedom of speech and expression in the West, never knew it was selective Wow... Are you really this stupid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007 5,291 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Unites said: Wow... Are you really this stupid? What’s stupid is jailing an 88 years old woman for her own belief Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani Gaga 3,359 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, 2007 said: What’s stupid is jailing an 88 years old woman for her own belief Were you born in 2007? I’m A mEsS! sTaY aWaY fRoM mE, mY eIgHt PeTs AnD mY bLuE bIsCuItS, yOu FrEaK! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not The Real Gaga 7,594 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, 2007 said: What’s stupid is jailing an 88 years old woman for her own belief Oh wow... You must be a Nazi yourself, aren't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverViennese 1,164 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 https://www.last.fm/user/derOlliM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Why is a certain person in this thread defending a Nazi..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007 5,291 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Unites said: Oh wow... You must be a Nazi yourself, aren't you? No, what happened to the Jews in ww2 was sad and tragic by all means, and I believe it happened. But I won’t sit here criticizing dictatorships countries law when this is basically the same mentality but different conversation. And if you believe jailing this old woman is right then that conflicts with “liberal” ideology and you’re a hypocrite. Period. 9 minutes ago, Stefani Gaga said: Were you born in 2007? 1996 actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 Just now, 2007 said: No, what happened to the Jews in ww2 was sad and tragic by all means, and I believe it happened. But I won’t sit here criticizing dictatorships countries law when this is basically the same mentality but different conversation. And if you believe jailing this old woman is right then that conflicts with “liberal” ideology and you’re a hypocrite. Period. 1996 actually. Germany has a special relationship to it. It's illegal to deny the Holocaust because it happened. It teared down and eliminated a whole ethnic group in Europe. You can't compare that to law in Saudi Arabia for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzGa 14,654 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 So when I first read this thread title, I thought "Oh, an old woman with dementia whose brain is declining now denies the holocaust and they put her in jail for it... that's kinda sad..." but then I read that she has been spreading her toxic beliefs around for years and actively trying to convince other people that the holocaust didn't happen... so ya that's clearly based in antisemitism and racism... i see why she is in jail, she could actually hurt people by spreading that sort of false slanderous message in a professional way as if it's truth. so unbelievable that people can convince each other that something with so much evidence didn't happen My old cat is a tough man, but i cant deny the way he bites my hand and he stabs me, he grabs me by my heart <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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