rph99 38 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 minute ago, PartySick said: This just in, $50 million (Viagra) X 14 = $2.4/$8.4 million (hormones and GRS). Since when do we need soldiers to be able to get erections anyway? Why doesn't Trump just skip golfing for a weekend? That would save enough tax payer money to pay for trans soldiers' bills. Because in the end of the day ZERO tax payer dollars should be going to an elective procedure. Tax payers don't pay for boob jobs...we aren't about to start paying for sex changed. Once transgender people have completed the process of transitioning and are fully stable....they will be able to enlist. But if you are going through a transition or have plans of doing so....you can not be in the military. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeehawKylie 7,817 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 15 minutes ago, rph99 said: Because in the end of the day ZERO tax payer dollars should be going to an elective procedure. You have no issue with $84 million worth of tax dollars going to elective erections. 16 minutes ago, rph99 said: Once transgender people have completed the process of transitioning and are fully stable....they will be able to enlist. But if you are going through a transition or have plans of doing so....you can not be in the military. That's your opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rph99 38 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Just now, IndieKylie said: You have no issue with $84 million worth of tax dollars going to elective erections. That's your opinion. "War is no place for people who are mentally, emotionally, or physically confused or in turmoil. You have your **** together, or you don't...and if you don't, you'll just get people needlessly killed. Political correctness has absolutely no place in the military." - J.R. Salzman (Iraq combat vet and wounded warrior). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeehawKylie 7,817 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, rph99 said: "War is no place for people who are mentally, emotionally, or physically confused or in turmoil. You have your **** together, or you don't...and if you don't, you'll just get people needlessly killed. Political correctness has absolutely no place in the military." - J.R. Salzman (Iraq combat vet and wounded warrior). "There will be no modifications to the current policy until the President's direction has been received by the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary has issued implementation guidance. In the meantime, we will continue to treat all of our personnel with respect. As importantly, given the current fight and the challenges we face, we will all remain focused on accomplishing our assigned missions." - chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff You're quote is irrelevant. You're gross assumption that transgender individuals are either mentally, emotionally, or physically 'confused' or in 'turmoil' is, yet again, mere opinion. Acknowledging that one is transgender and going through medical transitions is the furthest thing from 'confused' or in 'turmoil' to me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rph99 38 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, IndieKylie said: "There will be no modifications to the current policy until the President's direction has been received by the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary has issued implementation guidance. In the meantime, we will continue to treat all of our personnel with respect. As importantly, given the current fight and the challenges we face, we will all remain focused on accomplishing our assigned missions." - chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff You're quote is irrelevant. You're gross assumption that transgender individuals are either mentally, emotionally, or physically 'confused' or in 'turmoil' is, yet again, mere opinion. Acknowledging that one is transgender and going through medical transitions is the furthest thing from 'confused' or in 'turmoil' to me... If you're argument is only "well that's your opinion"...then I guess my argument is that this is your opinion as well. Unfortunately for you...we don't have a president that agrees with your opinion. We have one who agrees with mine! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeehawKylie 7,817 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 minute ago, rph99 said: If you're argument is only "well that's your opinion"...then I guess my argument is that this is your opinion as well. Unfortunately for you...we don't have a president that agrees with your opinion. We have one who agrees with mine! What you have a is a president who tweeted out a policy that is, at the moment, not being put into effect because it was merely a tweet. If agreeing with Trump is a bragging right for you, then I feel very sorry for you. Also, my argument was not only 'that's your opinion'. I actually referenced facts from the same RAND report you attempted to cherry pick to fit your agenda. However, you ignored that post of mine because it's easier to just ignore it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rph99 38 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 TRANS PEOPLE PAY FOR THEIR OWN TREATMENT. POINT BLANK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
untitled 2,758 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, rph99 said: TRANS PEOPLE PAY FOR THEIR OWN TREATMENT. POINT BLANK. It's funny how you start screaming and shouting everytime someone is actually making great arguments against you You sound like a child having a tantrum. 💋 Lead Me to War With Your Brilliant Erection 🚬 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emigrante 9,993 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 2 hours ago, rph99 said: "War is no place for people who are mentally, emotionally, or physically confused or in turmoil. You have your **** together, or you don't...and if you don't, you'll just get people needlessly killed. Political correctness has absolutely no place in the military." - J.R. Salzman (Iraq combat vet and wounded warrior). what your response has to do with his question tho. Sugar, spice, and everything nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rph99 38 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, FABian said: Transgender people are mentally ill. It's called gender dysphoria. It is to blame for the suicide rates of transgender people. Also you're going to accuse him of assuming, but really aren't you doing so as well? Assuming that transgender individuals are NOT mentally physically emotionally confused? I am certain a LOT of them are. However, that doesn't make them any less human. But in the case of the military, I think it was a good idea for the safety of the citizens. The military is NOT the place for a transition. Not to mention....suicide rates don't decrease post treatment....indicating that using big pharmaceuticals to pump them full of hormones and having them undergo extensive surgery might not be the best form of treatment for people with gender dysphoria. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeehawKylie 7,817 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, FABian said: Also you're going to accuse him of assuming, but really aren't you doing so as well? Assuming that transgender individuals are NOT mentally physically emotionally confused? I am certain a LOT of them are. I did not state transgender that all individuals are not mentally, physically, or emotionally confused. My point was that you cannot diagnose an entire subgroup of people as such. So, no, I was not assuming. My assumption is that there are likely a broad variety of individuals serving who are not well mentally, physically, or emotionally. The fact is, Mr. R still has not responded to my second post to him regarding RAND statistics and suggestions. It leads me to believe he, and you, would rather ignore that specific post and focus on 'assumptions' and such. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeehawKylie 7,817 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Emigrante said: what your response has to do with his question tho. He doesn't answer questions or acknowledge statistics that go against his 'siding with Trump'. If you notice, he ignores anything remotely challenging and instead posts quotes that have nothing to do with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Muumisarvinen said: It's funny how you start screaming and shouting everytime someone is actually making great arguments against you You sound like a child having a tantrum. Just like "his President that agrees with him". Two peas in a pod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, IndieKylie said: He doesn't answer questions or acknowledge statistics that go against his 'siding with Trump'. If you notice, he ignores anything remotely challenging and instead posts quotes that have nothing to do with it. Just like his hero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaux 137 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 On 7/26/2017 at 9:47 AM, Gaga Monster said: If anyone is transgender on GagaDaily right now, please know that we accept you here and you are more than just a 'medical cost' here Thank you! surprised by some of the posts labeling me as a misfit when I've graduated college, have a family, and a career so many people are being pushed into boxes on a daily basis it can all be overwhelming at times and to add on nothing is wrong with doing what's u want with your life Ass long as you aren't hurtin anyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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