Inside R. Kelly's Abusive Women Cult

[HairBow 602]

And people wonder why Gaga scrapped the release of the DWUW video ... I especially hope now that it will never leak.

Anyway, R. Kelly is a wretched, disgusting scumbag ... And he still would be one even if this new information turns out being false.

[Mythos 3,199]

Who cares, as long he makes music with Gaga, monsters will forgive everything. 

 

edit: Same goes to Terry

[bumblebee 2,528]

How can we guys be sure that these young women in this sex cult didn't join R Kelly voluntary? What if they are into this extreme "slave-master" fetish like in that lars von trier film and were well aware of everything happening there but they just wanted it because it is what makes them happy and turns them on? 

Because I find it very hard to believe that somebody with the level of fame R Kelly has can hold people in his studio/mansion against their will, it's like medieval madness

[Melech 9,900]

3 minutes ago, bumblebee said:

How can we guys be sure that these young women in this sex cult didn't join R Kelly voluntary? What if they are into this extreme "slave-master" fetish like in that lars von trier film and were well aware of everything happening there but they just wanted it because it is what makes them happy and turns them on? 

Because I find it very hard to believe that somebody with the level of fame R Kelly has can hold people in his studio/mansion against their will, it's like medieval madness

And the victim blaming starts, yuck

22 minutes ago, prince said:

This isn't even surprising because we've known about his past for ages, it does amaze me that Gaga chose to work with him; she loves that shock value 

That super hypocrite especially with Gagas message AGAINST sexual abuse. Till it happens to you seems like a total joke now

[JustYouandI 2,483]

14 minutes ago, prince said:

I literally think it was for shock value. She had an accused rapist on a track called Do What U Want, she probably found it very fitting 

If that was her mind set behind it, well that would make her a bit of sick human being in my book. How do you turn the suffering of young women who went through the same experiences that have cut you so deep into shock value for you benefit.

I always thought it was Interscope's decision to have him included in the album. Although I still hold her accountable for the way that collaboration progressed. 

[GypsyBabe 22,836]

Those poor girls...

[Mythos 3,199]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

And the victim blaming starts, yuck

That super hypocrite especially with Gagas message AGAINST sexual abuse. Till it happens to you seems like a total joke now

That song was from beginning hypocritical, cause you don't sing about rape, and work with two rapist. Sorry, that is just some major BS. But people on here are even defending those rapist, so whatever. 

[HairBow 602]

5 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

That super hypocrite especially with Gagas message AGAINST sexual abuse. Till it happens to you seems like a total joke now

As much as I am a fan of Gaga's ... You are totally not wrong, here.

(I've never taken Till It Happens To You seriously solely because of DWUW and everyone involved ...)

[bumblebee 2,528]

2 minutes ago, Simon said:

And the victim blaming starts, yuck

 

more like a call for a more thorough research since the news arrives from the same source that tried to make us believe that Russian intelligence have videotapes of the president-elect involved in the golden shower activity in a Moscow hotel, yuck 

also: "of course, the law says that consenting adults may take part in any relationship they want, no matter how nontraditional" is taken straight from the article. I am not blaming anybody, I don't know anything about R Kelly sexual cult, but before the court rules everything out we must be cautious with jumping to conclusions and dragging Gaga to the pits of hell for something that might not even turn out to be what it seems to 

 

[prince 4,688]

5 minutes ago, Simon said:

And the victim blaming starts, yuck

That super hypocrite especially with Gagas message AGAINST sexual abuse. Till it happens to you seems like a total joke now

I've always found it odd how she went from DWUW to then being really vocal about sexual assault, I wonder if she realised how bad taste the collab was hence a lot of the time performing her own solo version and releasing a collab with Christina Aguilera and then using her voice to talk about the effects of rape instead of using it as a metaphor. 

 

7 minutes ago, JustYouandI said:

If that was her mind set behind it, well that would make her a bit of sick human being in my book. How do you turn the suffering of young women who went through the same experiences that have cut you so deep into shock value for you benefit.

I always thought it was Interscope's decision to have him included in the album. Although I still hold her accountable for the way that collaboration progressed. 

I remember her saying she recorded the song and once she heard it back she requested having R Kelly on it but who knows she could have been lying about that. For all we know maybe this collab and video with Terry was all interscopes idea but we'll never know, the collab could have helped her to come to terms with her own sexual assault but only she knows that/what she's feeling. 

[JustYouandI 2,483]

8 minutes ago, Mythos said:

That song was from beginning hypocritical, cause you don't sing about rape, and work with two rapist. Sorry, that is just some major BS. But people on here are even defending those rapist, so whatever. 

That always made question Gaga's integrity and honesty about the issue. I'm not saying she is lying..... but come on. Ever since then I wanted her to be put on the spot about and called out on it. She has some explaining to do.

[Cuchulainn 3,040]

2 minutes ago, bumblebee said:

more like a call for a more thorough research since the news arrives from the same source that tried to make us believe that Russian intelligence have videotapes of the president-elect involved in the golden shower activity in a Moscow hotel, yuck 

also: "of course, the law says that consenting adults may take part in any relationship they want, no matter how nontraditional" is taken straight from the article. I am not blaming anybody, I don't know anything about R Kelly sexual cult, but before the court rules everything out we must be cautious with jumping to conclusions and dragging Gaga to the pits of hell for something that might not even turn out to be what it seems to 

 

I'm not sure why people believe these sources as 100% true either. It's just how this forum goes sometimes, and you'll get called a bunch of names for questioning the credibility of a source 

Anyways, if it's true it's an absolute shame. It wouldn't be surprising but I seriously hope it's not true.

[Mythos 3,199]

1 minute ago, JustYouandI said:

That always made question Gaga's integrity and honesty about the issue. I'm not saying she is lying..... but come on. Ever since then I wanted her to be put on the spot about and called out on it. She has some explaining to do.

No, that's not what i mean, i am not saying she is lying, but you are just not singing about something so hurtful, and want to have some integrity, when you have worked with two rapist. 

It's the same as with Katy, getting that award and then working with homophobes, and i am not saying she is one, but it's just not something you do, because else you seem like a hypocrite. 

[Lion Heart 15,041]

Y'all, read the article. There's A LOT more

[Talent 9,333]

Just now, Mythos said:

No, that's not what i mean, i am not saying she is lying, but you are just not singing about something so hurtful, and want to have some integrity, when you have worked with two rapist. 

It's the same as with Katy, getting that award and then working with homophobes, and i am not saying she is one, but it's just not something you do, because else you seem like a hypocrite. 

19 minutes ago, Simon said:

And the victim blaming starts, yuck

That super hypocrite especially with Gagas message AGAINST sexual abuse. Till it happens to you seems like a total joke now

8 minutes ago, JustYouandI said:

That always made question Gaga's integrity and honesty about the issue. I'm not saying she is lying..... but come on. Ever since then I wanted her to be put on the spot about and called out on it. She has some explaining to do.

She made TIHTY after working with Terry and R. Kelly, so she clearly regretted doing that. The song was her apology. She never talked or associated with them ever again.