Troy Carter talks Lady Gaga

[Phoebe 158]

1 hour ago, Rugbyguy said:

I didn't say her hip broke because she was fat, I said her hip broke because she was physically unfit. If high heels could cause a hip to break during a concert then how come it's not happened to any other female artists? A lot of people don't actually believe the hip story as she was seen recently after the accident various times in very high heels and then went on tour 12 months later wearing, you guessed it, very high heels night after night. There are some in the industry who believe the whole thing was made up because the North American BTWB was drastically under performing in ticket sales and something had to be done.

In regards to your last point, Troy didn't hold a gun to Gaga's head and force her into a 100 date tour, she signed off on it. She's not doing less tour dates now because Troy isn't around, she's doing less tour dates because demand has significantly dropped as we all know.

I can't believe you're actually questioning her hip surgery. Oh yeah sure, let's make up a fake hip injury, make Gaga hide for half a year and abrubtly end a very successful tour. Come on now. And she was not seen wearing high heels just after surgery. 

No, Troy didn't hold a gun to her head, but I think you need to see the bigger picture here. When Troy started managing Gaga she was new, unknown and thirsty for success. She also probably didn't have a lot of say in what she wants to do and what she doesn't want to do. Troy kept her busy for sure, but I think eventually Gaga got exhausted and didn't expect it will take such a toll on her. That is when Troy should have slowed down. Music industry is buisness, yes, but when a client tells you she's overworked then you're clearly not a good manager anymore. 

It takes a little bit to be human and Troy clearly wasn't to Gaga. Gaga's situation is just one example. A good manager/boss will give you some time off because when you are rested, physically and mentally you work better, you feel better and bring better results. Gaga's case is just on a much bigger scale, but sh!t like this happens in lots of companies and corporations and yet people still think it's normal. 

I just... 

 

[AphroditeLaydee 1,230]

Troy Carter, the man who overworked and treated her like a machine? No thanks, I'd rather her quit the pop industry than endanger her health again  

When will some of you understand that she's a person who needs her personal space to deal with her life? Especially when it comes to promo. The promo we're getting isn't just because of Bobby, it's Gaga as well. She's learned from her past experiences that she needs REAL people, REAL friends to be around in her life. She can't live like a pop star 24/7 anymore like she used to, she realized she can't neglect her family and friends just because she has a career--and that's exactly what she's doing now and what Bobby lets her do; he lets her become a person and not a money making machine like Troy treated her. 

Gaga might have been at the top but she was overworked, dangerously starved, lonely, and because of all that she became depressed almost suicidal. 

So yeah, I'd rather her quit the pop industry and go and sing at small dive bars again in tiny gigs where I still can have a chance of seeing her rather than have go back with Troy and be the world's biggest pop star and endanger her health again to the point where I might potentially lose her permanently, fck no.

[Phoebe 158]

Looking back on it I much prefer Bobby. Troy did help her immensely, there's no denying that, but Bobby seems to be doing just fine. Cheek To Cheek, Sound of Music tribute, the SB...those are all amazing things that happened in Gaga's career and I think they add great value to her resume. Oh and to add that they seem to be actually working as a team as opposed to just Bobby telling Gaga what to do and she has no say. 

This fanbase keeps trying to put Gaga in a box. I would absolutely hate it if she kept releasing same sh!t year after year. It is so exciting whenever she tries something new. She doesn't always succeed, but she's expanding her horizons and not limiting herself. Gaga did some amazing work with RedOne and Troy, but that is in the past. 

[merlot 5,772]

He was a good manager tbh, but sadly at the end things went wrong.

i hate to see his work discredited by some of the fans, it's just not fair 

[RocketNumber 9 98]

6 hours ago, Phoebe said:

Looking back on it I much prefer Bobby. Troy did help her immensely, there's no denying that, but Bobby seems to be doing just fine. Cheek To Cheek, Sound of Music tribute, the SB...those are all amazing things that happened in Gaga's career and I think they add great value to her resume. Oh and to add that they seem to be actually working as a team as opposed to just Bobby telling Gaga what to do and she has no say. 

This fanbase keeps trying to put Gaga in a box. I would absolutely hate it if she kept releasing same sh!t year after year. It is so exciting whenever she tries something new. She doesn't always succeed, but she's expanding her horizons and not limiting herself. Gaga did some amazing work with RedOne and Troy, but that is in the past. 

Right like she is 31 now and has been in our lives for almost 10 years I don't want the f**ing Fame album again, I want everything she's been doing solidifying herself as a legend not just a wacky shock-pop artist which a niche fan base

[MEDONER 1,676]

He ruined ARTPOP era and I loved ARTPOP era. No, I will not watch that video of him spitting bullshìt. JUSTICE 4 MOTHERFÙCKIN VENUS. 

[GhettoFabulous 18,501]

To think that some of us are "Gaga fans"  think the way we do is disgusting   imagine thinking overworking a woman till she breaks her hip then wanting to overwork her some more is ok. I can't believe the things I'm reading here omg   no one is denying the fact that he was a good manager we just don't like the way he treated Gaga that's it! Wow........I mean if all you want is an artist who is on top then go stan one Gaga isn't ever gonna be the way she was during the fame era etc I don't think you'll ever be the way you were 10years  ago either 

[Joshie S 6,072]

You know, even though that story is nice and all, and I will be forever grateful for what he did to help Gaga break through, however his actions and his abuse towards Gaga, I will never forgive him. He is the reason why she's had to spend a good 2 years recovering her image.. but she's shown him now. I still bet my bottom dollar that Perfect Illusion is about him.

[holy scheisse 22,255]

Why are you guys victimizing Gaga so much as if she wasnt involved in the process of her meteoric rise? Damn. Lol she wanted it y'all. She wanted success and she wanted "no sleep. Next club. Nother club. Nother club " and she wanted to "change the world, one sequin at a time". SHE WAS A HARS WORKER. She broke her hip because of her damn heels. She said she'd "rather die than be seen wearing flip flops". Like Gaga was involved so stop making her out to be some meek little abused creature by Troy Carter. She loved Troy their relationship went sour after her injury but like that doesn't negate how much she was on board with all of it before that. She has always been mentally unhealthy and an addict. She wrote the fame high on cocaine. Troy didn't do that to her. She said she's had an eating disorder since she was young. Troy didn't starve her. Y'all are ****ing dramatic.  

[Economy 49,684]

On 2017-04-05 at 9:35 AM, gagagoogoose said:

"THEN WHY DON'T YOU PUT MR ON TTH"

Tbh, he was a good manager but in the end he betrayed her during YouTube music awards right before she was going to perform Dope. I blame him for ARTPOP era mess.

He abandoned Meghan Trainor too in the middle of the Thank You era. Mess.

What exactly happened again? I dont remember what the betryal was

[gagagoogoose 30,952]

11 minutes ago, Economy said:

What exactly happened again? I dont remember what the betryal was

I posted a video of Gaga explaining what happened that night on page 4. 

[Ronk 14,762]

7 hours ago, gagagoogoose said:

I posted a video of Gaga explaining what happened that night on page 4. 

There are at least 3 very important points Gaga makes in that interview you posted. 

"It's one thing to put a train on the tracks, but it's another thing to keep the train on the tracks."  I think it's a manager's responsibility to keep the train on the tracks.

She talked about when her manager left her.  It was so sudden.  My opinion; abandoning an artist at the start of an era with no time to transition to another manager is brutal.  It left the era in shambles and hurt the performance of the era. 

Tony Bennett told her "Don't you ever ... let anybody ... take down the quality or the intelligence of what you do."  This is the key issue ... Gaga wanted to make what she considered as an artist to be quality music, but other's were more interested in the financial end of it.  Gaga wanted to be an artist, not a money-making machine.  If Troy wasn't OK with that, he could have let Gaga transition to a new manager and not abruptly ruin an era. 

That interview you posted on page 4 explains so much.

[doppelganger 3,933]

From the talk I was thinking that I'd learned something about Troy's managing style , but it just sounded like they were at the right place and the right time when the industry was going through massive disruption 

[Adakam 2]

1 hour ago, doppelganger said:

From the talk I was thinking that I'd learned something about Troy's managing style , but it just sounded like they were at the right place and the right time when the industry was going through massive disruption 

Thats what I got too and it makes sense to an extent, but it really makes you think...

[gagzus 15,867]

People who praise him forget her biggest promo era (Born This Way) was mostly handled by Bobby (which is why we were so happy when he became her full time manager) Troy sold the rights to the DWUW video to an external company which was one reason it never got released because they couldn't get the rights back, he never cared she was in hospital, he sold the rights for House of Gaga (not to be confused with Haus of Gaga) without her knowing when she was in hospital. And finally, he forced her to go to events, sign onto brands she didn't believe in like BTW with Target and their homophobia and more hence why she said about it at the Emotional Revolution event before.

He was good in her first two Album eras, but that was it.

People also forget that he isn't the reason she was so huge, her huge rise was thanks to her image and music not managerial stuff. For example if he got her a billboard yes he paid and secured it, but remember who's in the image on the billboard and who came up with the concept and shot the image. Gaga and her friends.