Whispering 18,865 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 23 minutes ago, Born To Slay said: Keep him until 2020 so we can get a far left progressive in. Trump is our ticket to GOP failure. We aren't getting a far left progressive. Everyone is already pulling to the middle. History shows that a moderate will be the next choice of Americans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,951 Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Gagaloo92 said: An opinion article? Try harder next time. Impeach that swine Political analysis is always opinionative Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: I will let you know what changed my mind. -He is signing a new bill that allows computer companies to bid your info to the highest bidder -He declared war on the Republican Freedom Caucus -Him supporting RyanCare even after it failed -Tax Reform is barely being worked on, one of the reasons I voted for him. Businesses are being taxed 37% for what they earn and after I pay my business tax I have barely enough for me. I am sick of it -Deregulating every single environmental protection we had -My tax dollars being used for the wall. We get taxed enough, give us back the money you are going to use for your wall so we can buy more things and have enough for us to feel comfortable -Failure to repeal Obamacare, premiums are through the roof and the ones suffering are the lower class -His ridiculous and inappropriate tweets these past few days -Michael Flynn asking for immunity, something is there we don't know and Trump responded on Twitter saying, "Mike only wants immunity to avoid the liberal witch-hunt." What a ridicolous thing to say, grow up Trump. I am now depending on Pence to become president. The only thing I have a problem with him is on LGBT issues but you can't agree on everything I guess. Don't be surprised if Trumps approval rating falls below 30%, some of my family who supported Trump now wants him out. Trump will be impeached, I can not imagine him lasting 4 years. I should have supported John Kasich, I should of..... All **** the rest of us saw and knew for months to over a year now. Next time someone tells you repeatedly who they are. You should listen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, Whispering said: We aren't getting a far left progressive. Everyone is already pulling to the middle. History shows that a moderate will be the next choice of Americans. Everyone is not pulling to the middle. Hell, Medicare For All is actually picking up support. They aren't really moving at all for the most part tho. I don't see any significant policy changes since November. And even if everyone did pull to the middle, we just need one progressive to run in the primary to have a shot. Trump just defied history, the left can do it next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,951 Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Born To Slay said: Keep him until 2020 so we can get a far left progressive in. Trump is our ticket to GOP failure. I dont like far anything in politics... they never have a balanced view on matters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batwings 12,958 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 15 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: I will let you know what changed my mind. -He is signing a new bill that allows computer companies to bid your info to the highest bidder -He declared war on the Republican Freedom Caucus -Him supporting RyanCare even after it failed -Tax Reform is barely being worked on, one of the reasons I voted for him. Businesses are being taxed 37% for what they earn and after I pay my business tax I have barely enough for me. I am sick of it -Deregulating every single environmental protection we had -My tax dollars being used for the wall. We get taxed enough, give us back the money you are going to use for your wall so we can buy more things and have enough for us to feel comfortable -Failure to repeal Obamacare, premiums are through the roof and the ones suffering are the lower class -His ridiculous and inappropriate tweets these past few days -Michael Flynn asking for immunity, something is there we don't know and Trump responded on Twitter saying, "Mike only wants immunity to avoid the liberal witch-hunt." What a ridicolous thing to say, grow up Trump. I am now depending on Pence to become president. The only thing I have a problem with him is on LGBT issues but you can't agree on everything I guess. Don't be surprised if Trumps approval rating falls below 30%, some of my family who supported Trump now wants him out. Trump will be impeached, I can not imagine him lasting 4 years. I should have supported John Kasich, I should of..... GUUUUUUURL! The Ultimate Reverse Warholian Experience! When will ARTPOP? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Economy said: I dont lile far anything in politics... they never have a balanced view on matters I don't mean Jill Stein far left. I mean Bernie Sanders left. I personally think that'd be good America. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, Born To Slay said: Everyone is not pulling to the middle. Hell, Medicare For All is actually picking up support. They aren't really moving at all for the most part tho. I don't see any significant policy changes since November. And even if everyone did pull to the middle, we just need one progressive to run in the primary to have a shot. Trump just defied history, the left can do it next. The left won't do it. All that would do is split the Dems/liberals. Republicans fall in line, Dems and liberals in general won't. They are going to go after the rust belt voters with a moderate, just wait and see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,951 Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Born To Slay said: I don't mean Jill Stein far left. I mean Bernie Sanders left. I personally think that'd be good America. I still think Bernie is too left in my opinion Just right of Obama is my balance i like. Basically Hilary Clinton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,522 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I mean, Mr.Pence can't even sit on a dining table with another woman if his wife not around, how will he able to do meeting between world leaders who are women if he is a President shall Trump get impeached??! (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ ˢᵖᵉᵉᵈ ᵃⁿᵈ ʷᵉⁱᵍʰᵗ (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, Whispering said: All **** the rest of us saw and knew for months to over a year now. Next time someone tells you repeatedly who they are. You should listen. I just listened to his speeches and followed him through the journey and it was all so convincing. He was going to repeal Obamacare, build the wall and would figure out a way for Mexico to pay for it (taxing mexico goods), work on taxes immediately, term limits on congress, working for the people, ect. Most of his plans made sense to me, he just doesnt know how to enact them because he has no experience and is a baby. He had some good plans But if I went back in time I would never vote for Hillary, I do not regret not supporting her. GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Whispering said: The left won't do it. All they would do us split the Dems. Republicans fall in line, Dems and liberals in general won't. They are going to go after the rust belt voters with a moderate, just wait and see. the voters get to choose, all we need is a Bernie figure that can appeal minorities and we got this in 2020. Im not content with giving up before the fight has even begun. I want a progressive and I will support one that runs as much as possible. Perosnally I want, Sherrod Brown to run. A super progressive senator from Ohio would be perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, Born To Slay said: I don't mean Jill Stein far left. I mean Bernie Sanders left. I personally think that'd be good America. Bernie Sanders is far too left. Nothing would ever pay for what he proposed, it was too much free and too much tax on the middle class. We are taxed enough and small businesses are suffering enough GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: Bernie Sanders is far too left. Nothing would ever pay for what he proposed, it was too much free and too much tax on the middle class. We are taxed enough and small businesses are suffering enough He explained how everything would be paid for. Bernie's main proposals weren't taxes for the middle class. His college plan would be paid for by a tax on Wall Street speculation and his infrastructure program would be paid for by closing tax shelter loop holes. His healthcare plan was gonna tax the middle class but they wouldn't have to spend on private insurance anymore, so they wouldn't be paying more. They'd be paying to the government instead of a private insurance company. Infact, by getting rid of private insurances hold on our healthcare system, they would've been paying less then now. https://berniesanders.com/issues/medicare-for-all/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Born To Slay said: He explained how everything would be paid for. Bernie's main proposals weren't taxes for the middle class. His college plan would be paid for by a tax on Wall Street speculation and his infrastructure program would be paid for by closing tax shelter loop holes. His healthcare plan was gonna tax the middle class but they wouldn't have to spend on private insurance anymore, so they wouldn't be paying more. They'd be paying to the government instead of a private insurance company. Infact, by getting rid of private insurances hold on our healthcare system, they would've been paying less then now. From an article I saved: If you cut the United States military ENTIRELY and taxes all earnings over 1Million dollars at 100%… You still couldn’t pay for this… So disregarding the fact that no wealthy people would work for free, the horrible negative economic ramifications of punishing small business owners and that frankly a 100% tax is absurd, you’ve got to find another way to generate revenue. So what do you do? Would probably have to start by widening the swath from the top 1% to increasing taxes on the top 5%. Those bastards can afford it! What defines top 5%? Any households earning $190,000 or more. Damn. I thought they’d have more. Well what if we just take almost everything from the top 10% of earners? Top 10% in the United States is any household earnings over $150,000. Not exactly the fat cats you thought, huh? Still, for the greater good, they can afford to have more, or all of their stuff taken, right? GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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