Computer 10,980 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 If it's true then good for her. Of course how can you trust the failing new york times with the truth... 💚💛💕❣⭕💢💢 | ⓜⓔⓡⓡⓨ ©ⓗⓡⓘⓢⓣⓜⓐⓢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Princess Die said: Where are the Uncle Tom gays at now? The gay men who voted for Trump are probably the least likely portion of the LGBT community to care very much about Transgender bathroom rights. So where ever the "Uncle Tom gays" are now, this decision likely wouldn't cause them to regret their vote. Voting against issues facing your own minority in favor of voting for issues which you think are more substantially important does not make you an Uncle Tom. For the record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Die 1,864 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 29 minutes ago, SKANK said: The gay men who voted for Trump are probably the least likely portion of the LGBT community to care very much about Transgender bathroom rights. So where ever the "Uncle Tom gays" are now, this decision likely wouldn't cause them to regret their vote. Voting against issues facing your own minority in favor of voting for issues which you think are more substantially important does not make you an Uncle Tom. For the record. No. Voting against your kind does make you an Uncle Tom, and someone who needs to be made an example of and shunned. Especially when it's blatantly shooting yourself in the foot, like we witnessed here today. But I wouldn't expect a non-marginalized class to be capable of understanding. Nod if you wanna make love with the enemy. ❤ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleficent 6 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 5 hours ago, ZacharyMark said: Didn't Trump say that he supported LGBTQ? Didn't he explicitly say that he was fine with trans folks using the bathroom that they identify with? Oh yea.... I'm WAITING for the WH admin to do something about actual disruptions of misconduct (rape, molestation, sexual abuse, etc in SCHOOLS and the CHURCH). Epidemics that DO NOT include trans folks. he probably is pro-LGBTQ honestly, this is most likely the doings of Pence, McConnel, and Ryan using him as a naive outlet to push their far-right agenda. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleficent 6 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 The best thing DeVos could do right now to gain the respect of the public would be to resign, citing this issue as the reason. People would worship her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Just now, Maleficent said: he probably is pro-LGBTQ honestly, this is most likely the doings of Pence, McConnel, and Ryan using him as a naive outlet to push their far-right agenda. Most likely Bannon if that's the case. And it probably is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleficent 6 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Just now, ZacharyMark said: Most likely Bannon if that's the case. And it probably is. true, i forgot about him Spoiler and i hate u for reminding me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uo111 5,285 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 This is obviously fake. She wants to use taxpayer money to allow religious zealots to send their kids to bible school and you expect me to think she cares about transgender people? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoshLife 17,019 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Luiz said: this is a win for everyone. good politicking Uhhhh, this isn't a win for transgender students who won't be able to go to the bathroom where they're comfortable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz 4,253 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, PoshLife said: Uhhhh, this isn't a win for transgender students who won't be able to go to the bathroom where they're comfortable. i said good politicking. transgendered people arent politicking Spoiler seriously though, i was referring to a win for everyone in trump's administration. thought it was obvious Spoiler I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoshLife 17,019 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 On 1/9/2017 at 9:28 AM, rph99 said: No politics please gaga. Unless you Truely stand up for gay rights and thank trump for being the first PRO-LGBT president the nation has ever seen! Hey just wanted to make sure you saw this. Remember when you thought Trump would stand up for LGBT Americans? What's your hot take on this latest development? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Just now, Princess Die said: No. Voting against your kind does make you an Uncle Tom, and someone who needs to be made an example of and shunned. But I wouldn't expect a non-marginalized class to be capable of understanding. No, it actually doesn't make you an Uncle Tom. To be an Uncle Tom you have to be subservient and eager to win over your oppressor. Voting against your own self interests in favor of issues which you feel are more important does not make you an Uncle Tom. Being a voter that is primarily motivated by issues facing national security, the economy, or our foreign policy over issues facing your own minority does not make you an Uncle Tom. Dismissing an individual's beliefs based on what position on totem poll of social privilege they occupy is a toxic divisive trick that played a significant role in handing Donald Trump the election. I don't feel the need to broadcast my status as a marginalized individual so that bigots like yourself will give credence to my beliefs. It's a shame you learned nothing from this election. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoshLife 17,019 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Just now, Luiz said: i said good politicking. transgendered people arent politicking Hide contents seriously though, i was referring to a win for everyone in trump's administration. thought it was obvious Hide contents The internal politics is the very least important aspect of this news item. This has very real implications for young transgender people. Also, you're not right about that either. As someone who used to work in politics, I can tell you that any story that reinforces the narrative that internal disagreement is rampant in Trump's White House is not a good story - even if he gets his way in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz 4,253 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, PoshLife said: The internal politics is the very least important aspect of this news item. This has very real implications for young transgender people. Also, you're not right about that either. As someone who used to work in politics, I can tell you that any story that reinforces the narrative that internal disagreement is rampant in Trump's White House is not a good story - even if he gets his way in the end. agree to disagree makes him look better in my view but of course there will be differing views since politics is changing rapidly, the old rules are out the window and predicting the real impact is muddled by the polarization of staunch partisanship. this is something that will charge his base which is how he won in the first place. his base supported him and they got him elected. this in my view furthers the perception among those who matter to his election, the base. with trump, everyone focuses on what should happen but as we've seen, predicting how his actions are actually received isnt simple I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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