Should Gaga collaborate more with contemporary artists?

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Just now, Dominic Marc said:

I don't see why everyone thinks rock will save her career. The rock scene won't really embrace her because she's still Lady Gaga and the audience for rock is less compared to pop. If people want her to go down the rock route then you'd have to prepare yourself for less theatrics, promo and appearances.  She can hold a career in rock but it's not going to propell her into super stardom again like some believe. 

Well is doing pop for even longer going to save her? How many female pop stars do you know of who are doing well after their mid 30s? I honestly don't know the tour figures, so please enlighten me, but I doubt there are more than a handful. Also there are plenty of theatrics outside pop. Look at Marylin Manson for example. Metallica is selling extremely well right now. U2 has the highest grossing tour ever. Of course these are all males (and bands), so the comparison isn't great, but maybe that's a niche that Gaga can fill. 

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12 minutes ago, swordstalker said:

For the most part, no. It would be a waste of all the rebranding she's done in the last 2+ years. In fact, she needs to start moving away from pop because she's approaching her best before date very quickly, as crude as that sounds. She needs to start moving in the rock direction. Pop music will chew you up and spit you out, unless you're Madonna/P!nk/etc. by a certain age. Anyway, she has yet to show her writing talents outside the pop world and I really want to see it. 

She could just redefine what pop is

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

A select few of her contemporaries

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1 minute ago, bionic said:

She could just redefine what pop is

I would absolutely be here for that. All I meant was that staying in the current boundaries of pop will not help her in the long term. 

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Just now, swordstalker said:

I would absolutely be here for that. All I meant was that staying in the current boundaries of pop will not help her in the long term. 

Maybe once she finally stops being afraid of what people think of her, she might put out a great and daring album that could do that. The Fame, The Fame Monster and Born This Way were the albums that had in some ways redifined the pop scene

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Isn't the album doing well, though? And even better in Brazil. Why does she need smash hits, when plenty of people listen to the album? I would rather see her continue on the path she's on, and collaborate with some rock stars instead. Imagine how awesome a collaboration with Springsteen would be.

[Dominic 11,922]

9 minutes ago, swordstalker said:

Well is doing pop for even longer going to save her? How many female pop stars do you know of who are doing well after their mid 30s? I honestly don't know the tour figures, so please enlighten me, but I doubt there are more than a handful. Also there are plenty of theatrics outside pop. Look at Marylin Manson for example. Metallica is selling extremely well right now. U2 has the highest grossing tour ever. Of course these are all males (and bands), so the comparison isn't great, but maybe that's a niche that Gaga can fill. 

I don't think doing pop/other influences is going to hinder her at all. You've got so many artists that are working and still doing relatively well. People don't get afraid of Katy/Rih/Adele sticking to their lanes so I don't see why Gaga is any different. 

Well Manson established himself as a rock star so he has the authenticity.  Whilst I'm not saying Gaga doesn't I very much doubt the rock community would fully embrace a pop-turned Jazz-turned rock singer. Especially as you have said she is also female which has an even lesser market. 

Im not saying theres no theatrics in rock because thats silly but you won't be seeing Gaga half as much at the mainstream events we like to see her at if she went completely rock because there isn't as big of an audience. 

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The problem with "JOANNE" is neither a hit-packed album nor a critically acclaimed albums (It got mixed reviews). Lemonade is the album that everybody is talking about when it comes to critical acclaim and legacy. Gaga took pains to create the album that was meant to impress music critics but in some ways to no avail. Still, it is quite a good album but at the same time it doesn't stand out.

[Justo 1,185]

53 minutes ago, M Monstre said:

I need her to collab with Sia.

Please, please, please! I'd die if Gaga and Sia collaborated; I can't imagine what they would create. 

Other than a masterpiece, obviously. 

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2 minutes ago, Dominic Marc said:

I don't think doing pop/other influences is going to hinder her at all. You've got so many artists that are working and still doing relatively well. People don't get afraid of Katy/Rih/Adele sticking to their lanes so I don't see why Gaga is any different. . 

Let's be real here. The only reason Gaga collaborated with Tony was the fact she wanted to escape from the pop music scene for awhile and she just thought it was all she needed to come back stronger and more likeable. Changing lanes in music may also mean you are not confident when it comes to your music and that;s why you do many things in one fell swoop. If ARTPOP had been a smash hit, Gaga would not have even taken jazz collaboration into account. She would have pursued with another smash pop record.

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2 minutes ago, Dominic Marc said:

I don't think doing pop/other influences is going to hinder her at all. You've got so many artists that are working and still doing relatively well. People don't get afraid of Katy/Rih/Adele sticking to their lanes so I don't see why Gaga is any different. 

Well Manson established himself as a rock star so he has the authenticity.  Whilst I'm not saying Gaga doesn't I very much doubt the rock community would fully embrace a pop-turned Jazz-turned rock singer. Especially as you have said she is also female which has an even lesser market. 

Im not saying theres no theatrics in rock because thats silly but you won't be seeing Gaga half as much if she went completely rock because there isn't as big of an audience. 

I want to see how all these artists hold up when they hit their mid thirties. I especially want to see how Katy fares with her new album. I have a strong feeling it will not do nearly as well as Prism. 

And just generally speaking, Gaga is a consummmate musician and peforme; perhaps the foremost of modern pop stars.  Are people really not interested in hearing a non-pop album written by her? She has so much to offer. 

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4 minutes ago, swordstalker said:

I want to see how all these artists hold up when they hit their mid thirties. I especially want to see how Katy fares with her new album. I have a strong feeling it will not do nearly as well as Prism. 

And just generally speaking, Gaga is a consummmate musician and peforme; perhaps the foremost of modern pop stars.  Are people really not interested in hearing a non-pop album written by her? She has so much to offer. 

I have a hunch she will score her next number one songs on Billboard There is likelihood, she will outdo PRISM. She is yet to peak and I am positive her team will make sure she stays on top of the pop game.

We musn't forget she has a massive streaming power, teen girls ,casual listeners and radios to back her up. I would not be worried about her. Plus, she is still young and looks much younger.

Plus, she has already scored enough hits to play them for the rest of her career

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4 minutes ago, BloodyJudas said:

I have a hunch she will score her next number one songs on Billboard There is likelihood, she will outdo PRISM. She is yet to peak and I am positive her team will make sure she stays on top of the pop game.

We musn't forget she has a massive streaming power, teen girls ,casual listeners and radios to back her up. I would not be worried about her. Plus, she is still young and looks much younger.

Plus, she has already scored enough hits to play them for the rest of her career

True, she's one of the smartest, most self-aware people in pop. She could very well fare better than I expect. 

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9 minutes ago, BloodyJudas said:

Let's be real here. The only reason Gaga collaborated with Tony was the fact she wanted to escape from the pop music scene for awhile and she just thought it was all she needed to come back stronger and more likeable. Changing lanes in music may also mean you are not confident when it comes to your music and that;s why you do many things in one fell swoop. If ARTPOP had been a smash hit, Gaga would not have even taken jazz collaboration into account. She would have pursued with another smash pop record.

Tony and Gaga collaborated on Lady Is A Tramp right during Born This Way. She said they wanted to make an album together so the plans for Cheek To Cheek started there, way before ARTPOP was even released.

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9 minutes ago, swordstalker said:

True, she's one of the smartest, most self-aware people in pop. She could very well fare better than I expect. 

I am both a big fan of Gaga and Katy and I think they are both great artists- very talented and full of great ideas. But Gaga has always been and always will be number one in my heart

She is human a being and she is entitled to make mistakes just like we do! I think monsters tend to take extreme points of view when it comes to Gaga-one saying she doesn't need hits and the bling, others claiming she will go under unless she goes commercial again.

Personally,I think no one expects Katy to do crazy and artistic stuff. She is a pop singer who has found her lane and formula to stay relevant. I would hate to see Gaga doing what Katy does and it also goes the other way around.

I hope Gaga goes back to being Gaga with her next pop endeavor