Overrated Legends

[brizoda 4,032]

8 minutes ago, GhettoFabulous said:

Is sia a legend?

almost

[GhettoFabulous 18,501]

1 minute ago, brizoda said:

almost

Oh

[brizoda 4,032]

Just now, GhettoFabulous said:

Oh

She's not a legend but she will be

[JDi 1,495]

Bjork lol

and I love her but it's just funny seeing people talk about how great her albums post becoming a parody of herself are. it's even funnier when they say she is unique/innovative visually and fashion-wise when she simply worked with the top visual artists and wore well-known avant-garde clothing with as much imagination as Minaj, just a few random uninspired dress-ups for events/tour while she herself dresses like SuBo... and she didn't get that Oscar for Dancer In the Dark because although powerful and believable and heartbreaking, it was a Bjork performance rather than acting i.e. she was just being her artistic self, much like Gaga in Hotel.

[Rockets 1,807]

I can't ****ing stand ABBA's music

And even tho Freddy Mercury was an incredible vocalist a lot of Queen songs are kinda tacky let's just be honest

And ofc, Écnoyeb

[Ahri Under You 410]

15 hours ago, MarryTheKnight said:

she wore this same outfit on like friday

is that madonna? i cant tell (being serious i really dont know who that is)

[Daredevil 2,133]

1 hour ago, Lee Ng said:

Before that , her and Rihanna's visuals were NOTHING compared to Gaga's.

yeah and where are Gaga's visuals now 

 

[Lee Ng 1,494]

12 minutes ago, Daredevil said:

yeah and where are Gaga's visuals now 

 

Are being secretly kept for MR music video and ha SB Half time show 

[JDi 1,495]

1 minute ago, Rockets said:

I can't ****ing stand ABBA's music

And even tho Freddy Mercury was an incredible vocalist a lot of Queen songs are kinda tacky let's just be honest

And ofc, Écnoyeb

he knew that tho, he just thought that the world needs to realize theatrical and uncool is still rock n roll if you rock it and roll it and not everyone should be a cool cat to unapologetically express themselves. that's also what Gaga got from it and what she aims to achieve telling us "we're all born superstars" and should be as free as our hair is a mess, which isn't as tacky as it sounds if you give it a thought. she knows what she's doing when she makes us cringe with lyrics like "I want lots of friends that invite me to their parties" and "don't be insecure if your heart is pure". she's not named after a Queen song for no reason. she used to be an uncool theater kid herself.

I'm not saying you should try and dig Queen more, because I too can't stand them unless I'm in the weirdest mood. I'm just pointing out that both Freddy and Gaga are underappreciated for fighting for the same "lost" cause and your opinion sounds exactly like the good ol' "she a great singer but her music's kind of wack".

[Ooolong 4,440]

1 hour ago, AlexanderLevi2 said:

Skillful dancing? That's a bit of a stretch.

And don't use a music video as proof. 

But yes, Madonna has done a lot for pop icons (men and women).

I don't see it as a stretch. She's always been a talented dancer, even if she's been declining in performance. Even with her decline she's still better than most (Rihanna, Gaga, Ariana, Selena, etc) . I didn't say music videos specifically either, 'cause I haven't cared for most of the ones I've seen from her. Visuals apply to a lot more, and Madonna is known for having a lot of input, at least to my knowledge.

Whatever though, as long as you acknowledge her impact .

[Ooolong 4,440]

1 hour ago, Ahri Under You said:

is that madonna? i cant tell (being serious i really dont know who that is)

Yes, that's Madonna .

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Just now, Ooolong said:

Yes, that's Madonna .

thank you! 

[GloZell Green 11,723]

4 hours ago, jojuun said:

Girl don't let us state the obvious. Janet has an amazing catalogue but she isn't considered that iconic. Her legacy is heavily overshadowed by her brother for the general public. Her iconic songs can be counted on one hand too. I'd refer to her as "infamous" rather than legend. SuperBowl really killed her career. I'm not saying that was fair. But it did.

Just because she blacklisted doesnt mean that she isn't considered iconic, that doesn't make sense  Just because her brother was the first to be in the limelight doesn't mean that she can't be considered iconic. Perhaps he did do the most for the Jackson name but that doesn't mean she didn't. Hence being known for being an amazing dancer, even someone who worked with her before (now Beyoncé's choreographer) stated that she was on another level when it came to dancing. And imagine having a #1 album for each decade since the 80s, despite being blacklisted. Not everyone has that.

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 So Madonna was the first female video star (she managed to sell tons of the justify my love single video and no one has ever done that),  changed the way people do concerts with Blond Ambition and later was the first to use multi media in them (the first live streamed concert online was her brixton show in 2000), brought HUGE taboo subjects back then to mainstream pop like nobody ever had like homosexuality and female sexuality (was condemned by the vatican), has more top tens than anyone, she literally started reality tv with truth or dare, was the first one to do believable reinventions staying current, she literally was the first one to mix the fashion world, art world and music introducing unknown music producers, photographers, fashion designers and video directors into the mainstream (she did all of this without the internet) and all you guys care is about her vocals, think she is overrated and all you remember is Britney???? how sad.

By the way for all the "vocal" advocates, Whitney Houston and Aretha Franklin never wrote a thing on ANY of their songs. The talentless hag Madonna actually wrote or co wrote her biggest hits and outsold everyone in everything.

You can't judge anyone's legend status without knowing the context of the times when they were big. You might not like their music but some of their greatness comes from the fact that they were innovators of the musical landscape that you are used to now.  Is so scary to think that anything Gaga is doing now will be dimissed like all of you do now out of ignorance. Imagine that!. All people give credit to Gaga is her voice. She sure is not an  innovator. Everything has been done before so if we treat innovarors like this what would happen to Gaga in the future??? sad and scary. The crazy thing is that you can find all this ifo online but no one cares.

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[jojuun 4,159]

2 hours ago, GloZell Green said:

Just because she blacklisted doesnt mean that she isn't considered iconic, that doesn't make sense  Just because her brother was the first to be in the limelight doesn't mean that she can't be considered iconic. Perhaps he did do the most for the Jackson name but that doesn't mean she didn't. Hence being known for being an amazing dancer, even someone who worked with her before (now Beyoncé's choreographer) stated that she was on another level when it came to dancing. And imagine having a #1 album for each decade since the 80s, despite being blacklisted. Not everyone has that.

But we live in a world where you can get a #1 album with 50k sales these days. It's not that hard anymore. Also, her label gave an entire interview to Billboard on how they got her that #1 with the Unbreakable album. It was a strategically planned #1 in a slow week so they'd knew they'd be able to solidify it. She opened with 109,000 copies sold in the first week. For her first record in 8 years. That's honestly not amazing when your team spent a year planning how they'd get you a #1 with that. Someone like Madonna opened with 121,000 the same year, despite releasing consistently unlike Janet and despite Madonna's album leaking 6 months in advance. But sales are dead anyway and they're both not massive streaming forces so let's take a look at the tours...

There's just no comparing them. Madonna has consistent successes tour-wise. Janet doesn't. She has a long history of cancelling and she's notorious for lip-synching her way through a show. Sure, she's the better rhythmic dancer, even though Madonna's classically trained. And Madonna isn't the world's greatest vocalist and neither is Janet. So how come Madonna literally drove in millions more? Can do stadiums when Janet stays doing smaller scale shows? Even when Madonna was head-to-head with Janet in the nineties? Because Madonna is consistent in always delivering to the crowd while at the same time being an incredibly diverse artist. No album is the same. Her shows are immaculate and always bring something new to the table. Unlike Janet, who's spending months in rehearsal trying emulate the original Rhythm Nation choreography. Madonna never does the original choreo to anything (unless it's brand new), heck, she barely does the original song, she's always re-arranging old songs. Madonna's entire focus is always on going forward, Janet has barely evolved for the general public. That's truly the key to modern-day icons. Either your impact is so big you changed an entire genre (The Beatles, Michael Jackson) or you need to be smart enough to be diverse, to continuously evolve (David Bowie, Madonna) without confusing the general audience (Gaga).