Will Katy Perry ever win a Grammy?

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On 11/28/2016 at 8:33 AM, KleinKnight said:

The sad story is that even Taylor Swift

It's a sad story that talent is recognized?

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1 hour ago, PMKKARDASHiAN said:

Wait wait wait

Britney has a Grammy?! 

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There goes one of my main arguments against the britney Stan I'm dating.. 

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But how big of a Stan could he be because he doesn't know she has a Grammy either.. 

 

 

 

Yep she won it for Best Dance Song - Toxic

 

 

 

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probably, it think her chances are the same as gaga to win another grammy for her pop music (2011 being her latest)

and who knows? she may do a collab with diplo, major lazer, calvin harris, skrillex or one of those successful djs over there and make a justin (who won a grammy this year thanks to diplo and skrillex)

or she may do a visual media song on a weak year, with someone like dianne warren

[StrawberryBlond 14,880]

The Grammys are kinda like the Oscars - you get nominations and wins based on reputation more than anything. The Oscars are very strait-laced and no matter how good your performance was, if you've made too many bad movies previously, you won't get so much as a sniff of a nomination. That's why Madonna has never been nominated for an Oscar despite being nominated for and winning big movie awards for her acting in Evita. The Oscars just don't take her seriously as an actress because she made too many bad choices. The same story with Jennifer Aniston. So many people thought she should have got nominated for her role in Cake but she just isn't respected enough by the academy for that, especially with a movie that's such an obvious Oscar grab.

I think the Grammys view Katy in the same way. Whenever she gets nominated, there's always something better to give her second place. They don't even like nominating her ballads maybe because they think it's too obvious that she's trying for a Grammy. And she's been nominated and lost so many times that she may actually stop being nominated soon. That's what happened to Brian McKnight after he set the record of Most Grammy Nominations Without Ever Winning. It's like they think: "This artist has become a running joke and they'll never be considered good enough, so let's just stop getting their hopes up in the first place." Katy's 5th place in that list with 13 nominations. 14 and she'll be joint 4th. 15 and she'll be joint 3rd. 16 and she'll be joint second. 17 and she'll be joint 1st. 18 and she'll be the new leader. She's only 5 more nominations behind...unless one of these acts wins soon. So, she might not have much longer before she stops being nominated entirely.

1 hour ago, Yo GagaGaga said:

I'd actually be kind of pissed if she makes serious music and gets praised and tons of awards, and when Gaga does it she gets somewhat low praise, low charting, and little recognition (and with the metacritic scores I'm not putting my money on any Grammys, but I really hope it does). If Katy follows another Gaga move that Gaga gets bashed for, and Katy gets praised for I will choke myself with a Firework (oh lol I meant plastic bag )

Same. Gaga just can't win with the critics lately, no matter how authentic and mature she is and how much musicianship and growth she shows. So, if Katy, someone who's never been a hit with critics, tries something artsy and gets praised for it, my love/hate relationship with her will downgrade to full-on hate.

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52 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

The Grammys are kinda like the Oscars - you get nominations and wins based on reputation more than anything. The Oscars are very strait-laced and no matter how good your performance was, if you've made too many bad movies previously, you won't get so much as a sniff of a nomination. That's why Madonna has never been nominated for an Oscar despite being nominated for and winning big movie awards for her acting in Evita. The Oscars just don't take her seriously as an actress because she made too many bad choices. The same story with Jennifer Aniston. So many people thought she should have got nominated for her role in Cake but she just isn't respected enough by the academy for that, especially with a movie that's such an obvious Oscar grab.

I think the Grammys view Katy in the same way. Whenever she gets nominated, there's always something better to give her second place. They don't even like nominating her ballads maybe because they think it's too obvious that she's trying for a Grammy. And she's been nominated and lost so many times that she may actually stop being nominated soon. That's what happened to Brian McKnight after he set the record of Most Grammy Nominations Without Ever Winning. It's like they think: "This artist has become a running joke and they'll never be considered good enough, so let's just stop getting their hopes up in the first place." Katy's 5th place in that list with 13 nominations. 14 and she'll be joint 4th. 15 and she'll be joint 3rd. 16 and she'll be joint second. 17 and she'll be joint 1st. 18 and she'll be the new leader. She's only 5 more nominations behind...unless one of these acts wins soon. So, she might not have much longer before she stops being nominated entirely.

Same. Gaga just can't win with the critics lately, no matter how authentic and mature she is and how much musicianship and growth she shows. So, if Katy, someone who's never been a hit with critics, tries something artsy and gets praised for it, my love/hate relationship with her will downgrade to full-on hate.

Gaga was a critic darling on her early years, do not forget that

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If one day she decides to stand for herself, write an honest and authentic record that isn't made for the charts, that one day she could receive more recognition than she gets. 

I think she's talented, it's just that there's much bs around her.

Too much plasticity and money makers around. 

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3 minutes ago, GagaTheExplorer said:

Gaga was a critic darling on her early years, do not forget that

My question is, why did it stop? I don't think she got any worse. If anything, she has grown more as an artist since then.

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She's the Leonardo DiCaprio of music, but only with 1/4 of talent. It took Leo 22 years, so 4 times as long for Katy, aka in 88 years Katy will win her first Granny 

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Grammies don't always = talent

Queen never won a grammy and they're the most revered rock band of all time 

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When Britney Spears will stop lip synching.

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46 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

My question is, why did it stop? I don't think she got any worse. If anything, she has grown more as an artist since then.

ARTPOP was the kind of album that critics destroy, but somehow it stayed in green metascore, but no one here will deny that it was a step back after born this way

Cheek to Cheek was pretty risky, she change totally the gener, and not everyone was ready for that

and Joanne was too safe to have praise by critics.

the critics love will be back but she needs to make the right move next time

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1 hour ago, PMKKARDASHiAN said:

Wait wait wait

Britney has a Grammy?! 

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There goes one of my main arguments against the britney Stan I'm dating.. 

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But how big of a Stan could he be because he doesn't know she has a Grammy either.. 

 

 

WTF! Every Britney stan knows she has a Grammy. 

And she has a Grammy for the one and only Toxic! 

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Hopefully never. I love these Grammy jokes too much

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2 minutes ago, GagaTheExplorer said:

ARTPOP was the kind of album that critics destroy, but somehow it stayed in green metascore, but no one here will deny that it was a step back after born this way

Cheek to Cheek was pretty risky, she change totally the gener, and not everyone was ready for that

and Joanne was too safe to have praise by critics.

the critics love will be back but she needs to make the right move next time

Yeah, critics will destroy an album like AP because it's not "cohesive." *sticks fingers down throat* Since when did cohesiveness change whether an album was good or not?

C2C wasn't risky, it was safe. She did classic standards that have been praised by critics and performed them outstandingly with a legend. That's the kind of album that should have gotten praise.

Joanne wasn't safe, it was risky, especially for Gaga. Critics normally love it when an artist breaks away and does their own thing, but not with her.

For the record, lots of artists have done safe albums and risky albums and gotten praise. I said today how Taylor and Beyonce get praised whatever they do. Taylor changes her genre and goes generic - gets praise. Beyonce goes back to her roots and is real and organic - gets praise. Gaga does what Beyonce did and gets an overwhelmingly 'meh' response despite being a much more involved writer and being an actual musician.

Gaga doesn't need to change a damn thing, it's critics who need to get their head in the game. Professional critics are biased sheep who base their reviews on public perception of the artist in question and/or get paid to be nice. It's partly why I decided not to pursue becoming one of them. Years of studying for a degree in music only to turn into a fake snob? No thanks.

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48 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Yeah, critics will destroy an album like AP because it's not "cohesive." *sticks fingers down throat* Since when did cohesiveness change whether an album was good or not?

C2C wasn't risky, it was safe. She did classic standards that have been praised by critics and performed them outstandingly with a legend. That's the kind of album that should have gotten praise.

Joanne wasn't safe, it was risky, especially for Gaga. Critics normally love it when an artist breaks away and does their own thing, but not with her.

For the record, lots of artists have done safe albums and risky albums and gotten praise. I said today how Taylor and Beyonce get praised whatever they do. Taylor changes her genre and goes generic - gets praise. Beyonce goes back to her roots and is real and organic - gets praise. Gaga does what Beyonce did and gets an overwhelmingly 'meh' response despite being a much more involved writer and being an actual musician.

Gaga doesn't need to change a damn thing, it's critics who need to get their head in the game. Professional critics are biased sheep who base their reviews on public perception of the artist in question and/or get paid to be nice. It's partly why I decided not to pursue becoming one of them. Years of studying for a degree in music only to turn into a fake snob? No thanks.

Joanne was safe as hell, at every single point possible, and about beyonce and her roots, I am not sure if that is gaga's roots, it hard to believe that her roots are country/influenced when she was a rich girl in the most mainstream city in the world