I Feel Bad for Some of y'all

[FGGrayson 9,670]

1 minute ago, Hyoha said:

Problem is, the fans who hate it only hate it because it's not EDM/Dance-inspired.

Let's be honest: Gaga's music, especially in TF, TFM and ARTPOP, has been carrying a heavy dose of Dance/EDM elements. She has, for better or worse, departed from that kind of pop music.

That doesn't mean Joanne isn't Pop, though (it is). 

Not really, like a said, yesterday i was hating it too and not because of that

This fandom also dragged ARTPOP because it was "too EDM" "overproduced" "Dated EDM", most likely they are hating it because Gagz is a pop star and tbh Joanne doesn't sound pop like u would expect from: Carly, Taylor, Katy or whatever artists that makes pop

Some people will do hate the album for that reason, but a lot of us were hating it for other reasons, we werent expecting EDM but also we werent expecting what we saw on the Dive Bar concert

[ReidOne 12,427]

6 minutes ago, frankgutz said:

tbh, we are nobody to judge them, if they dont ike 'x' genre it's not their fault, Gaga was doing something sooo different, if they love her and want to stay here we are nobody to tell them to leave or drag them just because they have a different taste on music

I love you sis (a lot!! You are one of my faves), but I wholeheartedly disagree. These 2009-sters who can't seem to let Gaga out of the box they've put her in have GOT TO GO AWAY.

I was talking to my 60-year-old parents today about Gaga "going country" and they were THRILLED! My Dad said, "I think it's actually very wise and courageous of her to step outside of the box that her fans have put her in and stretch herself into musical genres that they might not be as comfortable with. But, if that's what she wants to perform, let her perform it! It's her art and her choice. What more could fans want than to see her following her passion?"

My 63-year-old conservative father was saying this to me tonight! I was like "YAASSSSS Dad!!! YAASSS!!!!!!!! I've been arguing with Gaga fans about this for the last 2 weeks!!"

I am first and foremost a fan of Gaga, the ARTIST. I was here for the "Pop Music Will Never Be Low Brow" electronic sunglasses that she paid for herself. I was here for the international slayage of her Bad Romance & Born This Way eras. I was here for her EDM-at-its-finest ARTPOP experience that also merged itself with high brow art like Marina Abramovic and low brow art like Millie Brown. I was here for the life-changing jazz covers with Tony. 

I've been here for all of it. Because I believe in Lady Gaga, the artist. 

And as someone who appreciates country & classic rock music, I am here for Joanne, too. This is exactly the music that she feels in her heart she is meant to be singing. Who are fans to judge whether "is it right or is it wrong?"  

Check your personal preconceptions at the door please. And just take in what the artist is serving. Because it is her art. And we have followed her this far. Are you going to abandon ship now? Just because you don't immediately connect with it? Or because it is not what you expected? 

These are the times you have to ask yourself, "What was I a fan of in the first place? Was it just the bops alone? Or was it the bigger picture of artistry that this brilliant woman is creating before my eyes?" 

Sorry to get over-dramatic, but I think this project is "separating the men from the boys" so to speak within this fandom. And I'm here for it. Boys to the left. I'm on the train with the artist. 

[Miley 5,006]

Honestly most people are positive

[Hyoha 1,613]

8 minutes ago, frankgutz said:

Not really, like a said, yesterday i was hating it too and not because of that

This fandom also dragged ARTPOP because it was "too EDM" "overproduced" "Dated EDM", most likely they are hating it because Gagz is a pop star and tbh Joanne doesn't sound pop like u would expect from: Carly, Taylor, Katy or whatever artists that makes pop

Some people will do hate the album for that reason, but a lot of us were hating it for other reasons, we werent expecting EDM but also we werent expecting what we saw on the Dive Bar concert

Just highlighting what you said in your post to try to get my point across: the kind of status quo pop you expect from such pop stars is heavily influenced by Dance/EDM elements, as well as hip-hop and rock.

Joanne is pop as f*ck. If 25 is pop, Joanne is. If Anti is pop, Joanne is. If Lemonade is pop, Joanne is. Just listen to A-Yo, John Wayne, Dancin In Circles, Angel Down snippets. How the hell isn't Joanne a pop album?

Gaga pushes the envelope. If you want music in the line of Katy Perry or Taylor Swift, go listen to Katy Perry and Taylor Swift. Gaga's songs have never sounded like theirs anyway.

[iCpro 14,846]

37 minutes ago, javaisreve said:

I have seen so many people up in here saying...

"I don't like this direction Gaga is going, but im gonna support here even though i dont like it"

"I seriously dont like this genre she's at, i don't think I can stan her anymore"

 

Baby, stop torturing yourselves, mama. Gaga is not who you think she is, and if you don't get that, the door is right there. Click it.

 

You don't have to punish yourself by "FORCING" yourself to like it.. No. You can go.

i feel bad for y'all .... you're not ready to move on... don't.

Seriously what is wrong with statements like these?

I'm getting really sick of people here telling others who don't like the album so far to unstan. So what if they don't like one album? That doesn't mean they can't stan Gaga. I'm certain the LG6, 7, and 8 will all sound completely different to Joanne and if fans stopped stanning Gaga every time she changed direction, she would of had no fans at all after C2C. If you really love an artist, especially one who changes as much as Gaga, you would still support her even when she releases music you don't like. 

[FGGrayson 9,670]

3 minutes ago, ReidOne said:

I love you sis (a lot!! You are one of my faves), but I wholeheartedly disagree. These 2009-sters who can't seem to let Gaga out of the box they've put her in have GOT TO GO AWAY.

I was talking to my 60-year-old parents today about Gaga "going country" and they were THRILLED! My Dad said, "I think it's actually very wise and courageous of her to step outside of the box that her fans have put her in and stretch herself into musical genres that they might not be as comfortable with. But, if that's what she wants to perform, let her perform it! It's her art and her choice. What more could fans want than to see her following her passion?"

Check your personal preconceptions at the door please. And just take in what the artist is serving. Because it is her art. And we have followed her this far. Are you going to abandon ship now? Just because you don't immediately connect with it? Or because it is not what you expected? 

These are the times you have to ask yourself, "What was I a fan of in the first place? Was it just the bops alone? Or was it the bigger picture of artistry that this brilliant woman is creating before my eyes?" 

Sorry to get over-dramatic, but I think this project is "separating the men from the boys" so to speak within this fandom. And I'm here for it. Boys to the left. I'm on the train with the artist. 

U're one of my faves too

Being honest a lot of the FameGa stans left after BTW/AP & C2C

In my case, im glad she's trying to expand her musical catalog, i was expecting that from her, the point here is that some fans love metal, some fans love rock, others folk, psychodelia, r&b, house, etc...

Just imagine if your **** is r&b, hip-hop, pop and the genre u most despise is metal, u cant hear it without have a seizure or a headache, and then she does a metal concert, how would you feel about it? sometimes it's not about not wanting her to experiment with other kinds of music, the fact the she went to the only genre of music u literally cant stand is traumatic af

And that is what happened to some of us, personally i also loved C2C & AP probably the most hated eras, i was ok with it, but soon as that Dive Bar happened i just couldnt take it, she did the only thing i trully cant stand, and i know MR it's not country, the instrumental itself it's not, but that country twang it's the thing that irritates me from country music, i was pissed af, i know that feeling of being let down & dissapointment & sadness, and after feeling that shitty all u get is crap & hate for saying u didnt like it, it just doesnt feel right

*Apart from Gagz, the other pop girl i follow is Mandy Moore and ha 2 albums were folk so... i wont have problems with Joanne except for 3 songs, but for some ppl i can understand the meltdowns & the hate

6 minutes ago, Hyoha said:

Just highlighting what you said in your post to try to get my point across: the kind of status quo pop you expect from such pop stars is heavily influenced by Dance/EDM elements, as well as hip-hop and rock.

Joanne is pop as f*ck. If 25 is pop, Joanne is. If Anti is pop, Joanne is. If Lemonade is pop, Joanne is. Just listen to A-Yo, John Wayne, Dancin In Circles, Angel Down snippets. How the hell isn't Joanne a pop album?

Gaga pushes the envelope. If you want music in the line of Katy Perry or Taylow Swift, go listen to Katy Perry and Taylor Swift. Gaga's songs have never sounded like their anyway.

U said it, the pop that Gaga always made didnt sounded like those artist, if they use to stan Gagz instead of Katy/bla bla bla it's because they use to love the pop she was doing, if Gagz take away that pop they are literally without nothing   otherwise they would problaby be stanning someone else long time ago

U said it, ANTI & LEMONADE are pop and they are not EDM, those 2 albums sound different and they really doesnt sound like Joanne either so??  if they didnt like it they have the right to say it

[Hyoha 1,613]

Remember when Mark Ronson said Joanne is an analogue, raw album in an interview like months ago?

Then people say they had no idea/weren't "warned"/were blindsided about Joanne... 

[Sense8 182]

Gaga showed them the door ..... She is not a puppet recreating TFM or a certain kind of pop music in every album.

For Gaga,there are MONSTERS that can folllow her to her new musical directions  and welcomes NEW FANS as well.

[FGGrayson 9,670]

22 minutes ago, Hyoha said:

Remember when Mark Ronson said Joanne is an analogue, raw album in an interview like months ago?

Then people say they had no idea/weren't "warned"/were blindsided about Joanne... 

analogue doesnt mean country tho, it could be acoustic, maybe some people were expecting that, red and blue 2.0, who knows?

[Hyoha 1,613]

13 minutes ago, frankgutz said:

analogue doesnt mean country tho, it could be acoustic, maybe some people were expecting that, red and blue 2.0, who knows?

Analogue means analogue, sis  Which is absolutely different from anything done by Gaga before or by any pop star nowadays except Adele and some of Bey and Rih's latest songs.

Also if people got Country vibes from more than 3 songs off Joanne, they either don't know what Country even is or they need hearing aid, k? 

All I'm saying, and the bottom line is, we had been warned. Gaga didn't make people believe something that's not real on purpose or anything like that. Some people are pissed when they shouldn't be. They were promised a pop album - Joanne is a pop album. If it's not "pop enough" to some people then maybe it's because it lacks dance/EDM elements. Still pop, though.

[FGGrayson 9,670]

7 minutes ago, Hyoha said:

Analogue means analogue, sis  Which is absolutely different from anything done by Gaga before or by any pop star nowadays except Adele and some of Bey and Rih's latest songs.

Also if people got Country vibes from more than 3 songs off Joanne, they either don't know what Country even is or they need hearing aid, k? 

Mark was talking about "analoge recording" which doesnt have to do anything with the genre
 

Spoiler

 

An analog recording is one where a property or characteristic of a physical recording medium is made to vary in a manner analogous to the variations in air pressure of the original sound. Generally, the air pressure variations are first converted (by a transducer such as a microphone) into an electrical analog signal in which either the instantaneous voltage or current is directly proportional to the instantaneous air pressure (or is a function of the pressure). The variations of the electrical signal in turn are converted to variations in the recording medium by a recording machine such as a tape recorder or record cutter. Examples of properties that are modified are the magnetization of magnetic tape or the deviation (or displacement) of the groove of a gramophone disc from a smooth, flat spiral track.

A digital recording is produced by converting the physical properties of the original sound into a sequence of numbers, which can then be stored and read back for reproduction. Normally, the sound is converted into an electrical analog signal in the same way as for analog recording, and then the analog signal is digitized, or converted to a digital signal, through an analog-to-digital converter and then recorded onto a digital storage medium such as a compact disc or hard disk.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_analog_and_digital_recording

 

 

[FGGrayson 9,670]

10 minutes ago, Hyoha said:

 

Also if people got Country vibes from more than 3 songs off Joanne, they either don't know what Country even is or they need hearing aid, k? 

that's true tho

[Hyoha 1,613]

All I'm saying is that we were warned about it. We knew it wasn't going to be a normal pop record akin to what Katy or Taylor put out recently.

To quote Gaga herself on Ryan Seacrest this week: "I will carve it into my chest... because I don't know if people forget this about me, or if it's just the way I am, but I'm never aiming to make a pop record that is of the status quo or what's happening in music. My aim is to always be different and to push things further. Not necessarily forward or backwards, but just push them in a new direction and it alway has a positive message behind it."

Joanne = still pop. Just not the same kind of pop that these other pop stars put out, which should be pretty obvious by now.

Aside from Gaga, my other favorite artist is Adele. Her songs are considered "pop music". But is there any resemblance between, say, 'Send My Love' and 'Make Me'? None other than the fact that both are pop records.

[Joe N 60]

1 hour ago, Hyoha said:

Problem is, the fans who hate it only hate it because it's not EDM/Dance-inspired.

Let's be honest: Gaga's music, especially in TF, TFM and ARTPOP, has been carrying a heavy dose of Dance/EDM elements. She has, for better or worse, departed from that kind of pop music.

That doesn't mean Joanne isn't Pop, though (it is). 

That's bullshit.

I would have hated an EDM album just as much. I wanted Gaga to come out with something and to evolve musically. The problem is:

a) I hate country. I hate Taylor Swift and everything that is associated with the genre of fat old white racists.

b) I wanted her to change her sound but not to a point where it could be classified as a concept album with her playing a character. 

This album doesn't have a single ounce of Gaga in it and it's not unique. It's a simple country album with pop influences and it features Gaga as Joanne singing songs about nothing important with her damn Koons voice. Y'all can pretend to love this **** all you want but respect that there are people who valued Gaga's artistic persona and are not here for yet another concept album after 3 years of waiting, listening to C2C and watching AHS.

[Phoenix 17,395]

The sass lmaoo