Batwings 12,715 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 It's pleasantly surprising to me that American Life has become so widely regarded by fans years later because upon its release, there was a lot of mixed reception of the album, even among hardcore Madonna fans. Many fans found the album lyrically "cheesy" and were tired of the sound of Mirwais's production. Many people were also confused by the album because it seemed as if Madonna was trying to create a concept album, but some of the songs didn't quite adhere to the concept being put forth. People like to point fingers at the GP, but the truth of the matter is that for the most part, the GP really didn't even know the album existed. None of the songs were widely played on the radio, and Madonna pulled the original video for "American Life" before any significant controversy erupted. (In my opinion, she should NEVER have done that -- that video is one of her absolute best, but at the time, with the tense political atmosphere, it suppose it seemed to be the wisest choice.) As for why the songs and other videos were never widely played, I think it all was a combination of a boycott (many radio DJs at the time told fans that they were encouraged to avoid playing Madonna's music), ageism, and sexism. In summation, there were a lot of factors that kept the album from being a true hit, and those factors weren't completely limited to the GP. As for Green Day's American Idiot, I don't think one should immediately dismiss the album's success. That album is truly Green Day's magnum opus. The entirety of the album follows a clear conceptual narrative, and the tone of the entire album perfectly captures the societal rage from the Bush Jr. years. I know I'm biased here because it's one of my Top 5 favorite albums of all time, but I can listen to it now, and to me, it sounds just as fresh and invigorating as it did when it was first released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexxx 2,244 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Snow said: Btw here's The vid that broke ALL hell loose. American Life was the album i overlooked. I never understood this video. What's with the models and the bathroom scene Lady Gaga/ Madonna/Lana /Azealia Banks/ Jazmine Sullivan/ DEEE-LITE/ Moko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciccone Madonna 1,362 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Well, bishes. The expert arrived. American Life was released in April 2003 around the time US invaded Iraq and the album got backlash because of it. American Copycat Idiot was released in Sept.2004. Take also in account that is more cool a hipster punk rock band releasing that kind of music is more accepted than the Queen of Commercial pop. Enough said. My second favourite Madonna album easily. This song>>>>>your lives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix 34,639 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 American Life slays! One of my favorite M albums! :legend: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJH219 4,448 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 I only started to give American Life the credit it deserves last year. Truly can't believe I threw it under the bus for sooo long It is not an album I listen to often though. I have to be in one of those "fvck everything" moods if that makes sense....As far as American Idiot, well it doesn't sound appealing at all considering Madonna did it first Also Easy Ride >>>> 'All our dreams can come true IF we have the courage to pursue them'-Walt Disney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batwings 12,715 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 All these people saying that Green Day copied Madonna when the two albums are almost nothing alike... This is why people don't take pop stans seriously... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciccone Madonna 1,362 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 1 minute ago, Batwings said: All these people saying that Green Day copied Madonna when the two albums are almost nothing alike... This is why people don't take pop stans seriously... who gives a double f### for mainstream trying to seem hipster bands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batwings 12,715 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 1 minute ago, Ciccone Madonna said: who gives a double f### for mainstream trying to seem hipster bands. I really hope you're joking... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciccone Madonna 1,362 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Just now, Batwings said: I really hope you're joking... I am not. Everyone has an opinion as everyone has an asshole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batwings 12,715 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Just now, Ciccone Madonna said: I am not. Everyone has an opinion as everyone has an asshole. What I'm trying to say is that several people in this thread are trying to compare the two albums while some have even admitted that they haven't listened to Green Day's album. Sure, everyone has an opinion, but not every opinion is valid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 97,262 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Ideally I would choose neither, AI is condescending while AL is simply stupid. BUT, out of the two, I'll choose AI, at least they make a point and not about they drive a mini cooper and drink soy late wtf lmao Lucky that album have better songs, such as Nothing Fails which is my favourite ever. As far as American government diss songs, I will always choose Marilyn Manson's Burning Flag. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ be delulu until it becomes trululu (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Gaga 21,893 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 5 hours ago, Snow said: Btw here's The vid that broke ALL hell loose. OMG. This is the definition of controversial Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJH219 4,448 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 3 hours ago, Batwings said: What I'm trying to say is that several people in this thread are trying to compare the two albums while some have even admitted that they haven't listened to Green Day's album. Sure, everyone has an opinion, but not every opinion is valid. I don't need to listen to an album to know it simply isn't good, especially if the artist that it is being compared against is Madonna. She always does it better 'All our dreams can come true IF we have the courage to pursue them'-Walt Disney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batwings 12,715 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, AJH219 said: I don't need to listen to an album to know it simply isn't good, especially if the artist that it is being compared against is Madonna. She always does it better Thanks for proving my initial point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow 1,582 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 13 hours ago, Hexxx said: American Life was the album i overlooked. I never understood this video. What's with the models and the bathroom scene Its about glorifying war and all that stuff. There are those Bush loving (sort of) celeb imprrsonators chearing to The supposed glory of war (thr fashion show) that was The mentality right before Iraq war began. However its showing The brutal side of war with chearing to children being "abused" and also that sounded veteran there being pulled out of stage as she's trying to "tell The truth of things" and he's being silenced. Madonna is playing a part of soldier fighting for The truth and injustice of this unjustified war etc. It has a loooot of small details and meaning behind it. It would Take an essay to explain. Like why the setting of military as a fashion show etc. Oh and it sure did cause a major controversy when launched and The quickly canned. Things might have goon different IF she wouldnt have pulled it, but I understand. She draw The line in her rebelling to ppl actually hurting her family/children as they should not suffer for it. (There were some actual and real threads IF I remember correctly). She also had to scrap the whole military fashion side and come up with something different. But yeah we know The result, radio banned her etc. AL did quite well in Europe though (like two 2# hits in UK). It is a great album indeed and its nice that ppl appreciate it for its actual content these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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