A. Banks trashes Beyoncé's Lenonade

[StrawberryBlond 14,899]

1 hour ago, CrazyMonster said:

You didn't understand. All those songs describe and refer to how she felt after finding out he cheated, she doesn't feel anymore like this but she felt like this before forgiving him.

I know, but that makes it worse. I don't know how you can forgive after that. And if she was truly over it, why would she put it out on an album? If you've moved on from anger, you wouldn't want to put it out there, as it's in the past. If you feel embarrassed for a past rant, you wouldn't want it brought up, right? You don't want people to see how you overreacted and suchlike. So, I have doubts that Beyonce's truly forgiven him.

1 hour ago, Whispering said:

Income can make situations more difficult, as far as options. That still has nothing to do with the responsibility that parents feel towards their children. Seeing your parents all the time does not "fix" the pain of not seeing them together, no matter what income level your family is at. Rich people want the same things that all people want, a happy and healthy home. Being rich does not take away people's heartaches and desires as human beings. Money does not buy happiness or a perfect world. 

Every situation is different. What does it teach the kids? Well, if the marriage goes through a bad period and the parents end up staying together and becoming stronger on the other side, it teaches kids that everyone has faults, everyone makes mistakes, that sometimes love is worth fighting for...that sometimes people are more than their mistakes...that long marriages take hard work and forgiveness along the way. There isn't a one size fits all solution or outcome. People do the best they can do, and either decide to stay based on conditions that are unique to each individual or they finally move on after they have fought for their marriage and for their family. 

Yes, it is clear that you don't understand how she can stay...but it isn't your life, is it? 

Personally, I would prefer to live with my mother and have her be happy rather than live with two parents and see her upset because she doesn't trust him. Living in the latter situation is terribly traumatising for a child, for anyone. They'll start to understand, even if you don't tell them. Then the child starts worrying for the sake of their mother and resenting their father and blaming themselves for being the sole reason that their parents are still together despite being so unhappy. Speaking as someone who had severe suspicions about my father and whose parents can have a fraught relationship at times (and I'm an adult), this is not what's best for a child.

I feel for Blue, I really do. I hope she gets through this or her pre-teen and teen years are going to be a nightmare.

[The Child 18,997]

24 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I know, but that makes it worse. I don't know how you can forgive after that. And if she was truly over it, why would she put it out on an album? If you've moved on from anger, you wouldn't want to put it out there, as it's in the past. If you feel embarrassed for a past rant, you wouldn't want it brought up, right? You don't want people to see how you overreacted and suchlike. So, I have doubts that Beyonce's truly forgiven him.

Personally, I would prefer to live with my mother and have her be happy rather than live with two parents and see her upset because she doesn't trust him. Living in the latter situation is terribly traumatising for a child, for anyone. They'll start to understand, even if you don't tell them. Then the child starts worrying for the sake of their mother and resenting their father and blaming themselves for being the sole reason that their parents are still together despite being so unhappy. Speaking as someone who had severe suspicions about my father and whose parents can have a fraught relationship at times (and I'm an adult), this is not what's best for a child.

I feel for Blue, I really do. I hope she gets through this or her pre-teen and teen years are going to be a nightmare.

I love talking and sharing my point of view with you you're always so understanding with others so thank you. I think Beyoncé just wanted to say that it's okay to be angry as a black woman (cause sometimes those who tends to get angry are stereotyped as the angry black woman) but even if she has forgave him she can still be mad.

[aaronyoji 2,055]

shes right. completely right and no on wants to ****ing say it. 

[aaronyoji 2,055]

22 hours ago, AntiPotCrusader said:

Of course people are gonna side with the fair skinned Beyoncé over the somewhat dark-skinned, 93% West African Azealia. 

especially with the hit records beyonce has and azealia remains to be a free independant artist who has aways stayed true to herself, as if commercial success is a valid tool to invalidate what banks is saying. 

[Whispering 18,865]

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Personally, I would prefer to live with my mother and have her be happy rather than live with two parents and see her upset because she doesn't trust him. Living in the latter situation is terribly traumatising for a child, for anyone. They'll start to understand, even if you don't tell them. Then the child starts worrying for the sake of their mother and resenting their father and blaming themselves for being the sole reason that their parents are still together despite being so unhappy. Speaking as someone who had severe suspicions about my father and whose parents can have a fraught relationship at times (and I'm an adult), this is not what's best for a child.

I feel for Blue, I really do. I hope she gets through this or her pre-teen and teen years are going to be a nightmare.

You are making assumptions here that:

-Beyonce is in the same exact place she was in when the infidelity happened

-She is miserable

-The marriage is in a miserable place

-She is planning on it staying the same forever

You are assuming, judging and painting some made up scenario in your head about complete strangers. You have absolutely no idea where they are at with their marriage and what is best for a child that doesn't belong to you. 

 

 

[Phlop 4,773]

She's kinda right tho but she's still a mess

[Yanko 9,860]

just because she forgave her husband doesn't mean shes not a feminist    

[Nastix 66]

She's not wrong.

[Liza 618]

On 4/26/2016 at 0:35 AM, just4fun said:

 

I came in here ready to roll my eyes but. she's not wrong here.

[Alien Tulip 12,428]

On 4/27/2016 at 8:00 PM, AntiPotCrusader said:

Of course people are gonna side with the fair skinned Beyoncé over the somewhat dark-skinned, 93% West African Azealia. 

Has nothing to do with skin color  People are on Beyonce's side because Azealia is always contradicting herself. For **** sake she made fun of Erykah Badu's afro and she called a random girl "ugly" for being dark as  midnight. 

[monketsharona 82,739]

of courses she trashed all the big artists who dumped her from their albums (Gaga, Bey, Rihanna, Nicki amongst others)

[StrawberryBlond 14,899]

19 hours ago, Whispering said:

You are making assumptions here that:

-Beyonce is in the same exact place she was in when the infidelity happened

-She is miserable

-The marriage is in a miserable place

-She is planning on it staying the same forever

You are assuming, judging and painting some made up scenario in your head about complete strangers. You have absolutely no idea where they are at with their marriage and what is best for a child that doesn't belong to you. 

I'm saying it because we don't know if she's miserable or not. I've speculated that she can't be that happy because she's relying worries to us that she started making in 2011, as if nothing has changed since then, and talking about final warnings, as in, she had to give him previous warnings that he didn't heed. On her last album, she talked about some infidelity fears with Jealous but on the same album, she's singing about being Drunk In Love. So, what's the truth? On her new album, she's still taking about the same stuff, but more extreme, because she knows it actually happened. It all suggests that Beyonce's been suffering in her marriage for about 6 years or more and is still repairing it. Just basing it on what she's put out. If her next album still involves stuff about cheating, I think it'll be clear that she's still lying to herself and trying to make things work and couldn't uphold her final warning promise. Now she's put that moment on record, she's going to be held to it. If she stays with him if he does it again and does the whole heartbroken thing again, there won't be as much sympathy because she couldn't take her own advice.

All I'm doing is sharing an opinion, nothing more or less. I didn't say that there were anything was set in stone because I said so.

[Wolf Boy 3,260]

22 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I know, but that makes it worse. I don't know how you can forgive after that..

You don't need to know how to forgive after that, it's not your story/album, it's hers.

[Whispering 18,865]

16 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I'm saying it because we don't know if she's miserable or not. I've speculated that she can't be that happy because she's relying worries to us that she started making in 2011, as if nothing has changed since then, and talking about final warnings, as in, she had to give him previous warnings that he didn't heed. On her last album, she talked about some infidelity fears with Jealous but on the same album, she's singing about being Drunk In Love. So, what's the truth? On her new album, she's still taking about the same stuff, but more extreme, because she knows it actually happened. It all suggests that Beyonce's been suffering in her marriage for about 6 years or more and is still repairing it. Just basing it on what she's put out. If her next album still involves stuff about cheating, I think it'll be clear that she's still lying to herself and trying to make things work and couldn't uphold her final warning promise. Now she's put that moment on record, she's going to be held to it. If she stays with him if he does it again and does the whole heartbroken thing again, there won't be as much sympathy because she couldn't take her own advice.

All I'm doing is sharing an opinion, nothing more or less. I didn't say that there were anything was set in stone because I said so.

That's correct. We don't know what her state of mind is now of if her marriage is on good terms now of not. 

The truth is that people who are married can be angry and in love at the same time. They can have more than one emotion at a time and a million emotions spread out over a few months, to a few years, to a lifetime of being married. The truth is Beyonce is singing about these different periods of her marriage. The "truth" is not as black and white as you think it should be. It is a highly complicated situation, when you spend years and decades being committed to one person and when you have children with them. 

Yes, the healing process takes years, just like the healing process for many of life's most gut wrenching losses. There are five stages to grief and you will go in and out of those for years and years. The pain of the loss subsides, but depending on the severity, may never entirely go away. The grieving process takes time. 

[StrawberryBlond 14,899]

30 minutes ago, Wolf Boy said:

You don't need to know how to forgive after that, it's not your story/album, it's hers.

But the whole point of a forum is to discuss things. And Beyonce is a celebrity, so she's decided to put her life out there for the public to judge and we're using that right. I don't know why some people think this is such a weird thing to do. If we shut down every conversation with "we don't know, we aren't involved," we'd never talk about anything! Pardon me for being interested in other humans emotions and decisions and wanting to decipher them.

@Whispering Same to you.