A. Banks trashes Beyoncé's Lenonade

[Regiment 901]

3 hours ago, Whispering said:

AB doesn't seem to have successful, long term relationships...and there is absolutely no way she can even begin to fathom the complicated emotions that someone who is married for years goes through when they discover infidelity. After you have children, you have a responsibility to a marriage in a different way than before. That has nothing to do with being a feminist. AB cannot begin to grasp the intensity and soul searching that people go through in these situations. 

 

 

[Pharamon 6,839]

10 hours ago, Rex said:

Probably because "this unsuccessful flop" is an actual artist and others can only wish to imitate her creative genius?

Please give me a legit definition of a word "genius" and one that is not copied from any sites on the internet

[Hecturr 1,926]

2 hours ago, Mert said:

Does anyone love her? She's so annoying! 

I do, her flow is amazing 

[teenagechrist 2,853]

She is kinda right actually

[StrawberryBlond 14,900]

Difficult to choose a side either way considering I'm not a fan of either but...

On the one hand, Beyonce has the right to sing about whatever she likes and deal with her emotions however she likes. Nobody owns a music style or any themes and just because there's some similarities doesn't mean she copied Azealia.

But Azealia makes some amazing points. It's true, Beyonce's supposedly standing up for under-privileged black women, so why is she charging extortionate prices for her concert tickets? It really makes you wonder if this is all just a marketing gimmick to her, to fleece the public with their modest bank balances because they feel they owe Beyonce something because she stood up for people like them. And also true, although I like some of her confessional tracks about Jay, I do question why Beyonce doesn't just leave him. She started discussing marriage problems all the way back in 2011 with 4. With self-titled, she gave suggestions that he'd been unfaithful. And now she's being explicit in saying that he's been unfaithful and is on his final warning. Exactly how much longer does she plan on staying with a man who repeatedly doesn't take heed to her complaints in their marriage? Surely staying with him despite not being happy is the exact opposite of being strong?

So, at the end of the day, I'm on Azealia's side. She's a nightmare, no doubt, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

18 hours ago, AntiPotCrusader said:

Of course people are gonna side with the fair skinned Beyoncé over the somewhat dark-skinned, 93% West African Azealia. 

I sided with Azealia and I've in the past been accused of the very thing you're claiming. Believe it or not, some people look at a situation and judge it fairly, not taking in the race of either side. Stop assuming that whites only side with other whites or light skinned "civilised" blacks. Stop trying to make all whites out to be ignorant and intolerant. Stop trying to make everything a race issue. We'll never end racism if we're constantly creating divisions, finding differences between each other and bringing everyone down.

 

11 hours ago, Whispering said:

AB doesn't seem to have successful, long term relationships...and there is absolutely no way she can even begin to fathom the complicated emotions that someone who is married for years goes through when they discover infidelity. After you have children, you have a responsibility to a marriage in a different way than before. That has nothing to do with being a feminist. AB cannot begin to grasp the intensity and soul searching that people go through in these situations. 

100% understandable and I'd normally say the same thing, but the part that makes me throw that theory out the window is the wealth situation. This "stay together after infidelity for the sake of the kids" is an unfortunate choice that a lot of people have to make even if it's not what they truly want because it all comes down to money. A lot of mothers fall into poverty after leaving their man and taking the kids with her. Naturally, as a single mother with only one income (or maybe none at all, considering only she can look after her children and maybe can't afford childcare), she will be in a very difficult situation that isn't optimum for the sake of her children's wellbeing and it could majorly affect their future path. So, that's why a lot of ordinary, civilian women stay and try to work things out. But Beyonce is on a different level. She has a net worth of $450 million or more, depending on your sources. She is more than capable of raising Blue on her own, especially as she has enough money to pay nannies if she needs to go away touring or whatever. Blue is set for life even if her parents do split up. Plus, Beyonce could have any man she wanted - most people can't believe she chose Jay of all the men out there. A lot of civilian women tend to feel like their best years are behind them when they split and have to devote so much time to being single mother that they don't have time for dating and don't have a team of stylists to make them look amazing either. Beyonce has it all and she'll still have it all, even if she gets divorced. She'll still have more money than she'll ever spend and men will be lining round the block to become her new husband. So, why is she staying?

I know she could still love him, but she sounds so angry on this album that it sounds like she's on the brink of announcing divorce, so how could there still be love there? If I'd sang Don't Hurt Yourself about someone, I wouldn't want to be near them, I'd hate them so much. She should have released the album and then dumped him. That's the only logical conclusion after such songs.

[Whispering 18,865]

18 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

 

100% understandable and I'd normally say the same thing, but the part that makes me throw that theory out the window is the wealth situation. This "stay together after infidelity for the sake of the kids" is an unfortunate choice that a lot of people have to make even if it's not what they truly want because it all comes down to money. A lot of mothers fall into poverty after leaving their man and taking the kids with her. Naturally, as a single mother with only one income (or maybe none at all, considering only she can look after her children and maybe can't afford childcare), she will be in a very difficult situation that isn't optimum for the sake of her children's wellbeing and it could majorly affect their future path. So, that's why a lot of ordinary, civilian women stay and try to work things out. But Beyonce is on a different level. She has a net worth of $450 million or more, depending on your sources. She is more than capable of raising Blue on her own, especially as she has enough money to pay nannies if she needs to go away touring or whatever. Blue is set for life even if her parents do split up. Plus, Beyonce could have any man she wanted - most people can't believe she chose Jay of all the men out there. A lot of civilian women tend to feel like their best years are behind them when they split and have to devote so much time to being single mother that they don't have time for dating and don't have a team of stylists to make them look amazing either. Beyonce has it all and she'll still have it all, even if she gets divorced. She'll still have more money than she'll ever spend and men will be lining round the block to become her new husband. So, why is she staying?

I know she could still love him, but she sounds so angry on this album that it sounds like she's on the brink of announcing divorce, so how could there still be love there? If I'd sang Don't Hurt Yourself about someone, I wouldn't want to be near them, I'd hate them so much. She should have released the album and then dumped him. That's the only logical conclusion after such songs.

My comment had nothing to do with wealth, or lack thereof. That's a seperate discussion. 

My comment referrenced the fact that once a child or children are in the picture, there are other considerations than for oneself. There are other people in the picture, than just two adults. Not only will you be changing your life, but will be changing your child's life forever. That awareness can make you look at situations in a different way....when you have responsibility for someone outside of yourself. This awareness and responsibility is something that impacts parents at all income levels. 

Yes, Blue would be financially taken care of forever, even if her parents split up. What she won't have is her parents together. That woukd change her life immensely and change her future in other ways. Responsible parents consider this when making decisions concerning their marriage. 

Because anger doesn't negate love, especially when you have years with someone and children with them. She should have done what was best for her, none of us know the situation or what has happened in their private lives. You are passing judgement on a stranger's personal situation, that you know very limited information about. Your "logic" only holds true for yourself in your relationships. 

[Brian Ryan 1,468]

This actually wasn't bad. If a man cheat, I'm gone. If other people want to work it out, great for them.

[StrawberryBlond 14,900]

2 minutes ago, Whispering said:

My comment had nothing to do with wealth, or lack thereof. That's a seperate discussion. 

My comment referrenced the fact that once a child or children are in the picture, there are other considerations than for oneself. There are other people in the picture, than just two adults. Not only will you be changing your life, but will be changing your child's life forever. That awareness can make you look at situations in a different way....when you have responsibility for someone outside of yourself. This awareness and responsibility is something that impacts parents at all income levels. 

Because anger doesn't negate love, especially when you have years with someone and children with them. She should have done what was best for her, none of us know the situation or what has happened in their private lives. You are passing judgement on a stranger's personal situation, that you know very limited information about. Your "logic" only holds true for yourself in your relationships. 

Yes, it does impact on all parents but let's not pretend that income plays a massive part in how much it's going to impact. There's a reason why celebrity parents split up without a second thought after a mere couple of years together - because their wealth insures that they'll be financially secure and their child will still have the best and can see their other parent all the time. Wealth solves so many problems that civilians have to put up with because they don't have a choice. Rich people don't have to put up with cheating, so when they stay, it annoys me. I mean, if the cheater got away with it, they'll do it again, especially now they know that having wealth of your own wasn't enough to make you leave them. And what does it teach their children when they grow up to find what their mother put up with? It'll encourage them to endure cheating too and even see it as not a bad thing.

As her lyrics state, he's done this more than once. I don't know how someone can still have love someone who's played them multiple times and clearly doesn't respect them. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me and all that. I'm not applying my logic, I'm applying her logic. She even says "When you love me, you love yourself," and "You don't love me deep enough." How can you love someone when you've acknowledged that they don't love you back?

[Azor Ahai 18,861]

AB is annoying but I agree that Beyonce acts like she knows all the struggles black women go through and relates 100%, while she is richer than all her fans combined.

[Giorno Giovanna 3,178]

i kinda agree with Witch AZ, writing lots of songs about someone that did you wrong is kinda lika giving this person more power over you than it deserves.

but AZ should understand that this is Beyonce's way and writing this album was probably her way to heal and process what happened

[Giorno Giovanna 3,178]

14 minutes ago, BrianxRyan said:

This actually wasn't bad. If a man cheat, I'm gone. If other people want to work it out, great for them.

i agree

[The Child 18,997]

51 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Difficult to choose a side either way considering I'm not a fan of either but...

On the one hand, Beyonce has the right to sing about whatever she likes and deal with her emotions however she likes. Nobody owns a music style or any themes and just because there's some similarities doesn't mean she copied Azealia.

But Azealia makes some amazing points. It's true, Beyonce's supposedly standing up for under-privileged black women, so why is she charging extortionate prices for her concert tickets? It really makes you wonder if this is all just a marketing gimmick to her, to fleece the public with their modest bank balances because they feel they owe Beyonce something because she stood up for people like them. And also true, although I like some of her confessional tracks about Jay, I do question why Beyonce doesn't just leave him. She started discussing marriage problems all the way back in 2011 with 4. With self-titled, she gave suggestions that he'd been unfaithful. And now she's being explicit in saying that he's been unfaithful and is on his final warning. Exactly how much longer does she plan on staying with a man who repeatedly doesn't take heed to her complaints in their marriage? Surely staying with him despite not being happy is the exact opposite of being strong?

So, at the end of the day, I'm on Azealia's side. She's a nightmare, no doubt, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

I sided with Azealia and I've in the past been accused of the very thing you're claiming. Believe it or not, some people look at a situation and judge it fairly, not taking in the race of either side. Stop assuming that whites only side with other whites or light skinned "civilised" blacks. Stop trying to make all whites out to be ignorant and intolerant. Stop trying to make everything a race issue. We'll never end racism if we're constantly creating divisions, finding differences between each other and bringing everyone down.

 

100% understandable and I'd normally say the same thing, but the part that makes me throw that theory out the window is the wealth situation. This "stay together after infidelity for the sake of the kids" is an unfortunate choice that a lot of people have to make even if it's not what they truly want because it all comes down to money. A lot of mothers fall into poverty after leaving their man and taking the kids with her. Naturally, as a single mother with only one income (or maybe none at all, considering only she can look after her children and maybe can't afford childcare), she will be in a very difficult situation that isn't optimum for the sake of her children's wellbeing and it could majorly affect their future path. So, that's why a lot of ordinary, civilian women stay and try to work things out. But Beyonce is on a different level. She has a net worth of $450 million or more, depending on your sources. She is more than capable of raising Blue on her own, especially as she has enough money to pay nannies if she needs to go away touring or whatever. Blue is set for life even if her parents do split up. Plus, Beyonce could have any man she wanted - most people can't believe she chose Jay of all the men out there. A lot of civilian women tend to feel like their best years are behind them when they split and have to devote so much time to being single mother that they don't have time for dating and don't have a team of stylists to make them look amazing either. Beyonce has it all and she'll still have it all, even if she gets divorced. She'll still have more money than she'll ever spend and men will be lining round the block to become her new husband. So, why is she staying?

I know she could still love him, but she sounds so angry on this album that it sounds like she's on the brink of announcing divorce, so how could there still be love there? If I'd sang Don't Hurt Yourself about someone, I wouldn't want to be near them, I'd hate them so much. She should have released the album and then dumped him. That's the only logical conclusion after such songs.

You didn't understand. All those songs describe and refer to how she felt after finding out he cheated, she doesn't feel anymore like this but she felt like this before forgiving him.

[Whispering 18,865]

8 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Yes, it does impact on all parents but let's not pretend that income plays a massive part in how much it's going to impact. There's a reason why celebrity parents split up without a second thought after a mere couple of years together - because their wealth insures that they'll be financially secure and their child will still have the best and can see their other parent all the time. Wealth solves so many problems that civilians have to put up with because they don't have a choice. Rich people don't have to put up with cheating, so when they stay, it annoys me. I mean, if the cheater got away with it, they'll do it again, especially now they know that having wealth of your own wasn't enough to make you leave them. And what does it teach their children when they grow up to find what their mother put up with? It'll encourage them to endure cheating too and even see it as not a bad thing.

As her lyrics state, he's done this more than once. I don't know how someone can still have love someone who's played them multiple times and clearly doesn't respect them. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me and all that. I'm not applying my logic, I'm applying her logic. She even says "When you love me, you love yourself," and "You don't love me deep enough." How can you love someone when you've acknowledged that they don't love you back?

Income can make situations more difficult, as far as options. That still has nothing to do with the responsibility that parents feel towards their children. Seeing your parents all the time does not "fix" the pain of not seeing them together, no matter what income level your family is at. Rich people want the same things that all people want, a happy and healthy home. Being rich does not take away people's heartaches and desires as human beings. Money does not buy happiness or a perfect world. 

Every situation is different. What does it teach the kids? Well, if the marriage goes through a bad period and the parents end up staying together and becoming stronger on the other side, it teaches kids that everyone has faults, everyone makes mistakes, that sometimes love is worth fighting for...that sometimes people are more than their mistakes...that long marriages take hard work and forgiveness along the way. There isn't a one size fits all solution or outcome. People do the best they can do, and either decide to stay based on conditions that are unique to each individual or they finally move on after they have fought for their marriage and for their family. 

Yes, it is clear that you don't understand how she can stay...but it isn't your life, is it? 

 

[Levine 23,689]

No lies. 

[Mikey Monster 1,561]

Um tbh when I first read the title and went on it, I actually thought it said that actual Banks all over america were bashing Beyonces lemonade. I was like what the **** do banks have to do with Beyoneces new album? Is it cuz of money? LMFAO