GloZell Green 11,723 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Why is this odd At the same time I did pretty bad on World Studies so. Lady Gaga | Shakira Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Poof 2,236 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 16 hours ago, MonsterMum said: Yes! My god this is literally the most annoying thing. Yeah my grandfather was Irish and Cherokee and my other greatgrandparents were German French. So I'm native american with a hint of German, half Irish and French, probably royalty too, cool huh. No unless you or your parents didn't make the crossing themselves you are simply American. Nobody cares if in 1802 someone distant relative came from X country to the US and now you pretend to be from there even tho you ****ing can't point it on a map or understand 2 words in that language. 10 hours ago, Morphine Prince said: LMAO yes, drag them! I understand WHY people talk about their family's history but idk why they claim to be from these countries.... NO. You are from the US, that's it. You don't have to claim to be from the countries your past relatives were from. The ONLY people who have a free pass saying they are from another country are first generation born in the US from immigrant parents. This is only because they will obviously have a stronger connection to the culture of that country. And even then, they are not from the original country. For example, I'm the child of immigrants. I'm the first generation to be US-born. HOWEVER, I don't claim to be from my parent's country. But often people ask me "where are you from" and being asked this by other Latinos is literally asking you where are your parents from and I have to answer my parent's country. But really, I am American. I have Italian ancestry as well, do I say I'm Italian? NOPE. idk who y'all been talking to, but in my experience, when born-and-raised-in-the-US Americans say "I'm X," we mean "I'm X-American." I've never met any born-and-raised-in-the-US Americans who seriously claimed to be from another country. By that, I mean someone who denies they were born and raised in the US, not people who say "I'm from X" when they mean "my ancestors are from X." The following may or may not be relevant to both of your posts but idgaf: Americans tend to be interested in our ancestry. IDK why some non-Americans are so salty about that. Many of us maintain the cultural ties we have to another country, no matter how distant. Even if we don't know about our heritage beyond our country/countries of origin, we have the right to explore it. Many people lost ties to their culture(s) due to assimilation. For a period of time (I wanna say 1940s-1960s), Americans were discouraged from learning languages other than English, and thus many parents didn't teach their native language to their children, and those children couldn't teach their children the language. The US also forced many (not ALL) indigenous nations to assimilate. I remember reading about Native American children being sent to schools where they were punished for partaking in their culture (including speaking in their native tongue) because they were supposed to assimilate into European-American culture. Let's also not forget about enslaved Africans/African-Americans. Slavery definitely didn't provide an environment that supported the preservation of one's mother culture(s). Y'all gonna mock their descendants for not being able to find their mother country/countries on a map or for not being able to understand a language spoken in that country/those countries? All this leaves a lot of Americans wanting to know their ancestral culture(s) some more. So... if Americans say "I'm African," "I'm Chinese," or "I'm Irish," is it really that big of a deal? More importantly, is it your right to dismiss these people for trying to get in touch with their heritage? After all that I've said, what's wrong with that? If it's any consolation, when I'm in a foreign country, I say that I'm American. BUT, when I'm in the US, I say that I'm Colombian and Puerto Rican. I'm not gonna tack on "-American" because people already know or assume that I was born and raised in the US. And yes, I do have close ties to these cultures, I know where Colombia and Puerto Rico are on the map, AND I know more than two Spanish-language words. I'm not a woman. I'm not a man. I am something that you'll never understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 107,778 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, Riot Poof said: idk who y'all been talking to, but in my experience, when born-and-raised-in-the-US Americans say "I'm X," we mean "I'm X-American." I've never met any born-and-raised-in-the-US Americans who seriously claimed to be from another country. By that, I mean someone who denies they were born and raised in the US, not people who say "I'm from X" when they mean "my ancestors are from X." Why people can't just say they are American is beyond me. And I've actually met US-born and raised people who say they are from X country before American.... yeah, yikes! It comes down to personal choice. I never say I'm X-American. I just say I'm American. I state my ethnicity separately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMonster 1,037 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Why people can't just say they are American is beyond me. And I've actually met US-born and raised people who say they are from X country before American.... yeah, yikes! It comes down to personal choice. I never say I'm X-American. I just say I'm American. I state my ethnicity separately. This! ! ! ! ! ! ! When I travel and people ask me where am I from, I say "Brooklyn" (I'm a proud New Yorker)! Then I'd get the "Well you know what I mean. What are you, you have nice curly hair, etc", I'd say "Ohhhh, Lol. American". If they persist I just say human. Usually at that point they get where I'm going and we move on to another topic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Poof 2,236 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 35 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Why people can't just say they are American is beyond me. Like you said, it comes down to personal choice. Some people like to honor both their ethnicity and their nationality, thus terms like "African-American" and "Italian-American" were born. For many, this is a way to acknowledge the wonderful diversity we have in the US! 36 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: And I've actually met US-born and raised people who say they are from X country before American.... yeah, yikes! I do agree that is cringeworthy. I never thought people actually did that, lol. I'm not a woman. I'm not a man. I am something that you'll never understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMum 2,532 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Riot Poof said: All this leaves a lot of Americans wanting to know their ancestral culture(s) some more. So... if Americans say "I'm African," "I'm Chinese," or "I'm Irish," is it really that big of a deal? More importantly, is it your right to dismiss these people for trying to get in touch with their heritage? After all that I've said, what's wrong with that? If it's any consolation, when I'm in a foreign country, I say that I'm American. BUT, when I'm in the US, I say that I'm Colombian and Puerto Rican. I'm not gonna tack on "-American" because people already know or assume that I was born and raised in the US. And yes, I do have close ties to these cultures, I know where Colombia and Puerto Rico are on the map, AND I know more than two Spanish-language words. Cause that's only what it is, a heritage, you aren't from that country, that country does not claim you so it is pointless in saying, well I am Irish, German, French etc. This 1/8 2/3 or something is just ridiculous and sounds like you only wanna make yourself more interesting when being American is interesting enough. For example: Why do you guys celebrate St Patricks day, colouring the river green acting like milions in the US just survived personally the Irish famine. Or have Pierogi day in certain parts when people can't even pronounce their own last name properly? I get that you want to belong to something, everyone does, but right now it feels like cherry picking. Most people that we're talking about are really superficial when it comes to their own heritage and barely get into it, they just heard it from their parent and that's enough for them (not all but many are, especially the younger people) casue effort. I mean if you so European, why not get rid of the guns since that's a custom not in your heritage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse 59 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 She kinda had a hard time putting her words together. She's usually super fluid in what she says. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMKKARDASHiAN 8,570 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 16 hours ago, DrewStevens said: I love her long answers It seems like some of you have never had an American-Italian friend. They talk about their roots every five minutes and they claim to be Italian, it's not a big deal. I'm pretty sure no one here has a problem with Americans who are Latinos claiming to be Hispanic or African Americans claiming African culture. Fixed it. I do this literally all the time both sets of grandparents came from either poland or Italy and my parents were raised in very culturally deep households, and they raised me the same way. Technically I'm American, but who really cares if I say I'm Italian? What a shallow thing for someone to be bothered by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwerk 7,380 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Sorry Gagz but I laughed so hard when she said that. You're not European Gaga, there's no such thing really since every country is vastly different. You are a proud Italian-American and that's a beautiful thing in its own. To me what makes this funny is that being European has nothing to do with singing the National Anthem at SB. It's too far fetched. Why not just say I'm a pround American and felt honoured to sing our anthem to its best athletes. The whole event just screames America to me, it's funny how she tries to make it European. Yes sports have a long history and tradition since ancient Greece, but it has nothing to do with her Italian roots at all. Love how she sometimes get so nerdy she kinda messes up. It's cute. According to Gaga I'm a ****ing rad bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 2 hours ago, PMKKARDASHiAN said: Fixed it. I do this literally all the time both sets of grandparents came from either poland or Italy and my parents were raised in very culturally deep households, and they raised me the same way. Technically I'm American, but who really cares if I say I'm Italian? What a shallow thing for someone to be bothered by. It's not a big deal. People let themselves be too bothered by what other people think. She was obviously talking about her heritage since she was talking about Ancient Greece before that and later she said she was an American so she is not denying she is American or claiming to be a born European. Context is always important. Anyway, claiming to be from other country doesn't affect anyone like claiming to be a race you're not. No one should feel offended or even bothered by that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 23 hours ago, Morphine Prince said: I'm not refusing them the right to do it but some people literally know nothing about these countries they claim to be from and don't actually have a real cultural connection. And judging from Europeans on this site, even they find it annoying. If you say "I have German ancestry" it's ok, but don't say "I'm German," you know? If so many generations have passed your family has lost a lot of its ties to the old country your relatives were from. Coincidentally I just went on Facebook and my friend wrote a status saying "My dad told me I might be more German than Irish, I'm having an identity crisis" ...... umm your family came here more than a hundred years ago.... your parents aren't even sure where their relatives come from, I'm sure not knowing exactly where your family comes from will not affect you in any way. exactly. Plus they think that europeans only stayed at one place for forever and didnt mix with others. The borders in Central and Eastern Europe changed more than Gaga changing their wigs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJH219 4,448 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 12 hours ago, Morphine Prince said: Why people can't just say they are American is beyond me. And I've actually met US-born and raised people who say they are from X country before American.... yeah, yikes! It comes down to personal choice. I never say I'm X-American. I just say I'm American. I state my ethnicity separately. If I really want to ruffle some feathers, I just tell them I'm from the Southern US 'All our dreams can come true IF we have the courage to pursue them'-Walt Disney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teri Hatcher 2,053 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 On 2/9/2016 at 2:05 PM, Emigrante said: What Ellie Goulding was doing at the Super Bowl during Gagas singing? oH my god NO By the time you reach the end of this sentence, it'll be too late to realize I just wasted your time with a pointless sig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Look at Gaga's drunk ass tryna give some funked answer. Love ha 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Kardashian 2,708 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I totally got what she was talking about in that interview. She's like so smart! Shop SKIMS & SKKN BY KIM online! The Kardashians streaming now on Hulu and Disney+! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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