Does Gaga care about what her fans want?

[monketsharona 80,756]

9 minutes ago, DiscoHeaven23 said:

There's definitely been a break down with her relationship with her fans. i mean, when's the last time she's had a Twitter conversation with multiple fans? So idk. Her relationship with us seems strained lately. 

Usually she does this when she's promoting an album and talking about her music... I think it happened during CTC era.

But I think she's conscious a lot of fans are disappointed she's not releasing LG5 anytime soon. That's why she said 'I know my fans wants to kill me'

[DietCoke 386]

Not you guys equating her caring about us with her doing whatever we want her to... 

[PUKKIE 457]

Katys fans are no desperate bcs Katys PRISM era is VERY SUCCESSFUL... that era was satisfying. and they did not get a jazz album to shut them up afta a messy underwhelming  era. whether you like it or not, Katys career is brilliantly managed , i dont care if she is an ''artist'' or not. her team is on POINT 

[LoveandMagic 1,731]

Gaga loves pop music. She also loves rock, jazz, r&b, movie musicals, etc. She started out doing rock stuff and that was what got her noticed. She then did pop because she had a great appreciation for iconic pop music/artists like Madge or MJ and thought pop could be both fun and have a little more substance. Then she did Jazz because of her love of the classics she grew up with. In her heart are many different genres because she's so incredibly versatile as an artist. She's artistically driven and wants to explore her abilities, which I think is something to be applauded. If she loses some fans along the way, she will pick up and/or keep others. She has enough money and fame. I think she loves her fans but knows it's not really recipricated for a lot of them (many only loving her when she is at the "top" of the top 40 radio and sells millions on a radio friendly album, oh, and for some it's really important that she is at her skinniest too). Why should she sacrifice her art and soul for a fickle group she is never going to please unless she has mega success doing only a certain type of pop music, when she has the opportunity to try new things? She's given us 4 great pop albums and I doubt very much that it's the end of her pop musical endeavors. But if it is, so what? Some fans leave. It's sad that it happens, but again, so what? Many likely stanned for an image and radio hits, which we know this to be true based on countless threads on this very forum that boast about charts, album sales, concert sales, #1 Vevo views, labels, etc. In fact it seems every time there's a stupid pissing contest going on in yet another stan war, the first things thrown out are sales and chart hits (as if that makes an artist great). I think Gaga has learned by now that she needs to follow her own path. 

Of course, there is nothing wrong with pop music, it's a fantastic genre that has a lot of diversity in it. There are some truly great pop songs out there. TBH though when most people here talk about wanting her to do pop music it's only about the most trendy sound, the super popular, catchy stuff that sales really well and is played continuously on the radio. It's fine if some people genuinely like the sound and the song, but from the way most people talk it seems more about being part of what's big and popular and riding the wave of superficial success. It's not really about listening to quality music, just about what's a big hit at parties or in the club. Personally, I love Gaga's pop albums and era's. I think they are great and hope she makes more pop albums. But I too have diverse tastes and am interested in seeing what she can/will do next. If I don't like it, I don't have to buy it nor invest in it in any way, nor do I fret over whether it makes millions of dollars. I could care less. I've got other artists (many underground) I'm into and while I will always enjoy Gaga as an artist and a person and check in with her, if I don't like what she puts out there's a whole wide world of music to enjoy. If people hate so much that she wants to do a Jazz or Rock album and wants to have a freaking meltdown over it (out of false "concern" for her career, "little managers" indeed) that's purely on them. They can go to management school or whatever and get in the field to find someone else's career to obsess over. Or make their own stuff. It's really not that big of a deal. The world doesn't revolve around pop music and the Top 20 of the 40 in radio. There are plenty of successful musicians out there that make quality, timeless stuff outside the genre and will be remembered for it. They have fan bases and manage to get by just fine, in fact many are millionaires. Yes, I too love the big budget spectacles at her concerts and in her videos, and I realize the big sales will impact her budget on all that, but if she is any type of artist, she can still make an impact with forced reduction. However, whose to say how well she would do until the change is made? There may not be a big reduction after all. In any case, she's an artistic being that doesn't have to really rely on big production to get her vision across. Many other pop artists do though, and they count on all that stuff to make people forget how narrow their range of talent is. Yet they are the ones focused on making big pop hits and where I think a lot of little managers should focus all their time. Trust that some of us won't miss them. 

But yeah, her next Jazz album it would be great to write some of her own stuff, but it was my understanding that the songs she chose had meaning to her and by doing covers of those iconic classics it was freeing her up creatively to write her own stuff for her solo album. I'm pretty sure LG5 comes before C2C part II because I don't really see her having anymore time this year for it. Next Xmas though would be perfect for some new Jazz for the holidays. I do find it hilarious though that a lot of the same people that whine about Gaga doing covers often stan for people known for barely putting any imput for their own music and basically sit back while their management and label make their image and hits for them. 

[Chump 1,093]

45 minutes ago, PUKKIE said:

Katys fans are no desperate bcs Katys PRISM era is VERY SUCCESSFUL... that era was satisfying. and they did not get a jazz album to shut them up afta a messy underwhelming  era. whether you like it or not, Katys career is brilliantly managed , i dont care if she is an ''artist'' or not. her team is on POINT 

Thread is about caring about what fans want. Fans want good music, don't they? Or they want copies sold? So if you say that Katy's fans are not desperate and we are, do you mean that ARTPOP is worse than PRISM? 

What are you doing on this site if Gaga's albums are unsatisfying to you? Whether it's jazz or pop

[squeala 875]

57 minutes ago, LoveandMagic said:

Gaga loves pop music. She also loves rock, jazz, r&b, movie musicals, etc. She started out doing rock stuff and that was what got her noticed. She then did pop because she had a great appreciation for iconic pop music/artists like Madge or MJ and thought pop could be both fun and have a little more substance. Then she did Jazz because of her love of the classics she grew up with. In her heart are many different genres because she's so incredibly versatile as an artist. She's artistically driven and wants to explore her abilities, which I think is something to be applauded. If she loses some fans along the way, she will pick up and/or keep others. She has enough money and fame. I think she loves her fans but knows it's not really recipricated for a lot of them (many only loving her when she is at the "top" of the top 40 radio and sells millions on a radio friendly album, oh, and for some it's really important that she is at her skinniest too). Why should she sacrifice her art and soul for a fickle group she is never going to please unless she has mega success doing only a certain type of pop music, when she has the opportunity to try new things? She's given us 4 great pop albums and I doubt very much that it's the end of her pop musical endeavors. But if it is, so what? Some fans leave. It's sad that it happens, but again, so what? Many likely stanned for an image and radio hits, which we know this to be true based on countless threads on this very forum that boast about charts, album sales, concert sales, #1 Vevo views, labels, etc. In fact it seems every time there's a stupid pissing contest going on in yet another stan war, the first things thrown out are sales and chart hits (as if that makes an artist great). I think Gaga has learned by now that she needs to follow her own path. 

Of course, there is nothing wrong with pop music, it's a fantastic genre that has a lot of diversity in it. There are some truly great pop songs out there. TBH though when most people here talk about wanting her to do pop music it's only about the most trendy sound, the super popular, catchy stuff that sales really well and is played continuously on the radio. It's fine if some people genuinely like the sound and the song, but from the way most people talk it seems more about being part of what's big and popular and riding the wave of superficial success. It's not really about listening to quality music, just about what's a big hit at parties or in the club. Personally, I love Gaga's pop albums and era's. I think they are great and hope she makes more pop albums. But I too have diverse tastes and am interested in seeing what she can/will do next. If I don't like it, I don't have to buy it nor invest in it in any way, nor do I fret over whether it makes millions of dollars. I could care less. I've got other artists (many underground) I'm into and while I will always enjoy Gaga as an artist and a person and check in with her, if I don't like what she puts out there's a whole wide world of music to enjoy. If people hate so much that she wants to do a Jazz or Rock album and wants to have a freaking meltdown over it (out of false "concern" for her career, "little managers" indeed) that's purely on them. They can go to management school or whatever and get in the field to find someone else's career to obsess over. Or make their own stuff. It's really not that big of a deal. The world doesn't revolve around pop music and the Top 20 of the 40 in radio. There are plenty of successful musicians out there that make quality, timeless stuff outside the genre and will be remembered for it. They have fan bases and manage to get by just fine, in fact many are millionaires. Yes, I too love the big budget spectacles at her concerts and in her videos, and I realize the big sales will impact her budget on all that, but if she is any type of artist, she can still make an impact with forced reduction. However, whose to say how well she would do until the change is made? There may not be a big reduction after all. In any case, she's an artistic being that doesn't have to really rely on big production to get her vision across. Many other pop artists do though, and they count on all that stuff to make people forget how narrow their range of talent is. Yet they are the ones focused on making big pop hits and where I think a lot of little managers should focus all their time. Trust that some of us won't miss them. 

But yeah, her next Jazz album it would be great to write some of her own stuff, but it was my understanding that the songs she chose had meaning to her and by doing covers of those iconic classics it was freeing her up creatively to write her own stuff for her solo album. I'm pretty sure LG5 comes before C2C part II because I don't really see her having anymore time this year for it. Next Xmas though would be perfect for some new Jazz for the holidays. I do find it hilarious though that a lot of the same people that whine about Gaga doing covers often stan for people known for barely putting any imput for their own music and basically sit back while their management and label make their image and hits for them. 

yesyesyes

[TimisaMonster 31,073]

Yes...otherwise she wouldn't have gotten back with RedOne and be trying so hard to change her image

[Nicole 1,809]

Of course she does. But there's a limit as to how much you can expect her to actually sit there and listen especially when some fans act so entitled and so persistent for a #1. There is a point when she needs to do what she wants to do. Would you sit in an job simply pleasing other people when you had the opportunity to switch it up and actually do something you enjoy? If she's not happy with what she's doing, it's going to reflect in her work sooner or later. 

 

[giskardsb 12,565]

@LoveandMagic gets it,

Gaga herself has a very broad and deep music taste and recognizes true artistry when she sees it.

a lot of this fanbase, not so much.

 

[LoveandMagic 1,731]

3 hours ago, giskardsb said:

@LoveandMagic gets it,

Thanks hun. 

[Sister 9,907]

She cares but I would say, reasonably. Music is Gaga's life and she is not going to sacrifice her life which is her art, to please many who just seem to come and go. I think that Gaga knows how fandoms work, she has been a fan of others her whole life. Not any one person can please everyone at all times.

[PUKKIE 457]

8 hours ago, Chump said:

Thread is about caring about what fans want. Fans want good music, don't they? Or they want copies sold? So if you say that Katy's fans are not desperate and we are, do you mean that ARTPOP is worse than PRISM? 

What are you doing on this site if Gaga's albums are unsatisfying to you? Whether it's jazz or pop

No, that is not what i meant. l mean that the ARTPOP era did not reach its full potential compared to other eras. A lot of her fans ,myself included expected more from the era, interms of singles and general longevity. and this has nothing to do with the album itself, it has everything to do with how that era was managed. In terms of jazz, i wont even comment as im not a jazz fan so as far as im concerned it is not an era (to me). i dont have to like everything that Gaga does, each to his own. I stan for popga not jazzga. So yeah, ARTPOP era was shortlived for me and did not reach its full pot. thats all

[Auro 1,829]

She cares more than a lot of artists do but she's gotta live her own life and do what she wants with my body

[Creyk 17,805]

On 2015. 11. 09., PUKKIE said:

No, that is not what i meant. l mean that the ARTPOP era did not reach its full potential compared to other eras. A lot of her fans ,myself included expected more from the era, interms of singles and general longevity. and this has nothing to do with the album itself, it has everything to do with how that era was managed. In terms of jazz, i wont even comment as im not a jazz fan so as far as im concerned it is not an era (to me). i dont have to like everything that Gaga does, each to his own. I stan for popga not jazzga. So yeah, ARTPOP era was shortlived for me and did not reach its full pot. thats all

You are the perfect fan, everyone should be like you.

[PUKKIE 457]

1 hour ago, Creyk said:

You are the perfect fan, everyone should be like you.