Didymus 34,380 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 No one said her acting was the best acting on primetime TV but an Emmy nomination is worthy of consideration. I'd also like to remind you that we only saw three episodes.I get you but if you think an Emmy nomination is worthy of consideration for her you are saying she's among the best actresses on primetime TV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Peters 10,749 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Who exactly are these people btw?I'm not talking about here specifically (there are some whiny people on here tho) but i mean the popular ahs blogs on tumblr, people on twitter, and people I've discussed it with face to face.I guess what I'm trying to say is that this season is delivering and meeting most people's standards, be they low or obnoxiously high. The season alludes to Murder House and has a similar feeling to it as well. It's mysterious and fast paced, but it's not in your face. You learn as you watch an episode, you learn as you watch the season progress; a process that didn't exist much in other seasons. emma roberts is an abuser Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malazam 15,710 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 This last episode had me worried. Gaga was pretty phenomenal and brazen in the first two episodes, but, one or two moments aside, episode 3 had her playing the exact same notes.I don't agree that she needs a crying or angry scene to prove herself. Those are the easiest emotions for an actor to tap into, by far. If Gaga is going to excel and grow as an actress, Ryan and Co need to provide her character with more dynamics. We've seen her be s-xy, alluring, and a little vulnerable. Now, what else?(The scene where she offs Ramona's lover was a step in the right direction, but a small step.)Ikr......I wanted to see more of that scene it was literally a 10 seconds scene..... another shot before we kiss the other side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,168 Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 This last episode had me worried. Gaga was pretty phenomenal and brazen in the first two episodes, but, one or two moments aside, episode 3 had her playing the exact same notes.I don't agree that she needs a crying or angry scene to prove herself. Those are the easiest emotions for an actor to tap into, by far. If Gaga is going to excel and grow as an actress, Ryan and Co need to provide her character with more dynamics. We've seen her be s-xy, alluring, and a little vulnerable. Now, what else?(The scene where she offs Ramona's lover was a step in the right direction, but a small step.)Jessica also played the same notes in the first five episodes of previous seasons, the major twist usually occurs from episode 6, so it's too early to judge that part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Heart 4,400 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 LOL you don't have to have an emotional scene to be considered a good actor, Jessica is FAR from phenomenal she's one dimensional and played the same character every season, just because she's old and has acted for decades doesn't maker her a good actress, it's the same with musicians.Fair enough she's playing the same type of character Lange did for 4 seasons but at least she added something new to it; mystery & excitement.Jessica did what she could with the roles that were written for her, she didnt write the same character for 4 seasons, and she excelled (the critics agree). One dimension ? Have you seen Lange in anything other than AHS LOL ? Gaga's first time in a leading role is going spectacularly well just because she isn't playing a cancer patient dying or a grieving mother doesn't mean she's a bad actress, she's played her part well. I never said Gaga didnt play her part well though ? Gaga is actually surpassing all my expectations as an actress. What i mean is that for 3 episodes being a s-xed up b---hy vampire queen is all she has been, no emotional or in depth scenes apart for 2 seconds in the 3rd episode. Do i think being fierce and **** deserves an emmy nomination ? no. So unless they build on her character and give her some actual scenes where she can really go raw with her acting i dont think the comparisons to Lange & Paulson are fair. "GGD IS NOT FOR YOU" - Admin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I don't think it's that important that Gaga get nominated for best leading actress Emmy, especially when the show is essentially an ensemble this year. She's doing fabulously in the role, but I don't know if that will lead to an Emmy nomination for her. I do think she might have shot at a Golden Globe nomination though. She has the starpower that Jessica Lange had, but not the automatic critical response to her acting that can only come from years and years of building up a respectable body of work that leads to praise/accolades just from appearing on screen - which Mare Winningham is a good example of currently (seriously, I see people are praising her left & right just for this hammy OTT role). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,123 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Jessica also played the same notes in the first five episodes of previous seasons, the major twist usually occurs from episode 6, so it's too early to judge that part.I know that people give Jessica crap for playing similar roles from season to season, but her characters were more complex right from the get-go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,168 Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 Viewer ratings are better than critic reviews in all cases.. Coven is the only season that could qualify as been reviewed well, the other seasons have ratings that can only be interpreted as mixed to favorable (Freakshow and Coven) and average (Asylum and first season) to me. The seasons have regularly been nominated for "Best Miniseries" etc. but have never won and the main wins (and main praise) have always gone to the actors' performances and not the show. The Golden Globes for instance didn't even bother to nominate the show at all except for two seasons. So no, I get my impression from lots of different information and based on comparisons with other shows I think it's perfectly accurate to say that AHS is not a critically praised show. How are viewer ratings better than critic reviews? Critic reviews are thought to be professional and impartial while viewer ratings are usually diluted by fans/haters' prejudiced opinions. Well it's a good thing the pattern suggests that praises are given to the actors since Gaga is the lead actress after all. Btw getting nominated is decent enough and what I mentioned in the OP, never expected her to win but if she does, that's great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,123 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Well it's a good thing the pattern suggests that praises are given to the actors since Gaga is the lead actress after all. Btw getting nominated is decent enough and what I mentioned in the OP, never expected her to win but if she does, that's great. If Gaga is going to be nominated in any category, it will be Supporting Actress. She is the star of the season, but everyone is a supporting role (so far). The closest that we have to a lead is Detective Lowe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,168 Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 Jessica did what she could with the roles that were written for her, she didnt write the same character for 4 seasons, and she excelled (the critics agree). One dimension ? Have you seen Lange in anything other than AHS LOL ? I never said Gaga didnt play her part well though ? Gaga is actually surpassing all my expectations as an actress. What i mean is that for 3 episodes being a s-xed up b---hy vampire queen is all she has been, no emotional or in depth scenes apart for 2 seconds in the 3rd episode. Do i think being fierce and **** deserves an emmy nomination ? no. So unless they build on her character and give her some actual scenes where she can really go raw with her acting i dont think the comparisons to Lange & Paulson are fair.1. Isn't Gaga doing what she can for the role assigned to her?2. I get you and emotional scenes do give the actors an advantage in showcasing their acting talent but acting comprises so many elements I think the uniqueness doesn't solely come from emotional scenes. I'm not saying what Gaga has been delivering us is Emmy worthy but I think you are to an extent disregarding her achievement not based on her acting skill but based on her character's nature. But yes I get you, she needs to showcase more of herself, though not necessarily through raw and emotional scenes. I mean if Taylor Swift was playing Elizabeth like Gaga, she would be praised to the heavens since it's very different from Taylor's singer persona. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,168 Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 I don't think it's that important that Gaga get nominated for best leading actress Emmy, especially when the show is essentially an ensemble this year. She's doing fabulously in the role, but I don't know if that will lead to an Emmy nomination for her. I do think she might have shot at a Golden Globe nomination though. She has the starpower that Jessica Lange had, but not the automatic critical response to her acting that can only come from years and years of building up a respectable body of work that leads to praise/accolades just from appearing on screen - which Mare Winningham is a good example of currently (seriously, I see people are praising her left & right just for this hammy OTT role). I love Jessica but this is quite true, people are judgmental af when it comes to Gaga but are acknowledging Jessica so easily because she's delivered a few amazing projects. Jessica is AMAZING but her advantage does not apply to Gaga and people have to eradicate the discrepancy in how they judge actors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Heart 4,400 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 1. Isn't Gaga doing what she can for the role assigned to her? 2. I get you and emotional scenes do give the actors an advantage in showcasing their acting talent but acting comprises so many elements I think the uniqueness doesn't solely come from emotional scenes. I'm not saying what Gaga has been delivering us is Emmy worthy but I think you are to an extent disregarding her achievement not based on her acting skill but based on her character's nature. But yes I get you, she needs to showcase more of herself, though not necessarily through raw and emotional scenes. I mean if Taylor Swift was playing Elizabeth like Gaga, she would be praised to the heavens since it's very different from Taylor's singer persona. 1. Read. 'So unless they build on her character and give her some actual scenes where she can really go raw with her acting i dont think the comparisons to Lange & Paulson are fair.'2. Im not disregarding anything ive literally said that shes excelling all my expectations All i want is something more than the same thing shes done for 3 episodes, which there is nothing wrong with. Stop trying to make it sound like im attacking her just because i want versatility and dont think she deserves an emmy nomination based on what weve seen so far "GGD IS NOT FOR YOU" - Admin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,168 Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 If Gaga is going to be nominated in any category, it will be Supporting Actress. She is the star of the season, but everyone is a supporting role (so far). The closest that we have to a lead is Detective Lowe. I don't think that's likely, she'll get nominated in the Lead Actress category, her name was credited last in the opening credits scene and AHS usually places lead actress's names the last, clearly they marketed her in a lead-actress-way and the amount of scenes she has suffice to regard her a lead actress. Detective Lowe indeed looks like a lead actor though cause he has so many scenes in fact I was telling myself of how big of a role he was assigned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,168 Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 1. Read. 'So unless they build on her character and give her some actual scenes where she can really go raw with her acting i dont think the comparisons to Lange & Paulson are fair.'2. Im not disregarding anything ive literally said that shes excelling all my expectations All i want is something more than the same thing shes done for 3 episodes, which there is nothing wrong with. Stop trying to make it sound like im attacking her just because i want versatility and dont think she deserves an emmy nomination based on what weve seen so far Wasn't doing that at all okay maybe I sounded harsh, sorry about that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 How are viewer ratings better than critic reviews? Critic reviews are thought to be professional and impartial while viewer ratings are usually diluted by fans/haters' prejudiced opinions. Well it's a good thing the pattern suggests that praises are given to the actors since Gaga is the lead actress after all. Btw getting nominated is decent enough and what I mentioned in the OP, never expected her to win but if she does, that's great. I meant that the rating is better as in higher. You told me on the previous page that I got the impression that AHS was getting bad reviews because I was reading viewer reactions - I'm saying that the viewer reactions are more positive than how the critics have been reviewing the show since it aired Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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