Warren Talks About TIHTY On BBC Radio 5 Live

[Adampervez 603]

Uh, well, you're entitled to your own opinion. That's like saying... a chicken entering a wolf den is not guilty. When of course, if the chicken knows that she will be eaten there, then the chicken is partially accountable, regardless of any veredict.

this is making me feel sick

[lmxoxo 943]

So? What's the point? Gaga and her team didn't promote it at all, not even on social networks, thats a shame, this masterpiece flopped hard, again without promotion. Thanks a lot Haus of Gaga. 

Even if she doesn't want this song to be about her, then why not promote it to the world, so the world can see THEM and help + donate to that organization. 

It's totally a mess, again... 

[BitcherelIa 265]

It's hard having a debate when people don't really read everything you post TBH. :P

 

[scorpion 409]

It's hard having a debate when people don't really read everything you post TBH. :P

 

 

 

No. TBH.  You just keep spreading ignorance and what youve said is perfectly clear.

Its one thing to be prepared and be safe walking into  party.... its another for you to say the  victim deserves it.

So long as you keep rearing your cartoon little head, people will reject your ideas 

 

 

 

 

 

[Kayla 7,595]

My opinion is that if things could've been done by the victim to AVOID being victimized, then the abuser is only accountable for partial blame. How can you avoid it? In many ways, many of which I already elaborated. Do we live in a perfect world in which everyone who harms someone else is the personification of evil, or that anyone that is harmed is a saint? No.

This is my opinion, and if you are so sure of yours, then why waste so much of your time to change mine, or to discredit it?

We are all accountable for something, only Jesus Christ came to this world as a perfect lamb, a lamb being the animal that doesn't act in search of harm, surrounded by wolves.

My issue with how you're presenting your opinion is you seem to be putting most of the blame onto the victim and only a small amount onto the actual criminal.

I agree that people should be careful. But I also think that when someone is hurt, robbed, or treated unfairly we shouldn't be focusing the blame on them as you seem to be doing throughout your posts. 

And for years we've been pushing "ways to be safe," but it isn't causing the drastic change we want. So now we're trying a different method. We're focusing on the criminals because focusing on the victims hasn't worked all that much, considering the stats and experiences.

 

Uh, well, you're entitled to your own opinion. That's like saying... a chicken entering a wolf den is not guilty. When of course, if the chicken knows that she will be eaten there, then the chicken is partially accountable, regardless of any veredict.

People don't intentionally go to be around wolves when they know they are vulnerable. It's not like rapists wear nametags or throw "Rape Parties" so you know what to expect from them.  

Longish personal story in spoiler. 

My first year of college I was at the first football game for my school. I ended up next to a guy who was drinking. He was a lot of fun, and really cute. We flirted a little after he first sat down, before he had drank too much. 

After he had some more beers, whenever I stood up to cheer he started pulling me onto his lap. I first politely asked him to "please stop." But then he kept doing it. And I turned to him and sternly told him to stop while pushing his hands off my waist.

I left the game early after he pulled me onto his lap for the last time and drunkenly told me that he was going to rape me. You know how many times I was looking over my shoulder as I made my way back to my dorm?

 

I wasn't drinking (at all), I was wearing jeans and a tshirt (not revealing), I was there with a friend (buddy system), I looked to his friends for help too, but all they said was "He's too far gone." When I left I texted my roommate and told her where I was (another safety precaution). 

My point is- us "chickens" don't know we are entering a wolf den, and often times it's the wolves that seek us out in environments that should be safe. Ever hear the phrase "A wolf in sheep's clothing"? It's usually the wolves who come to the sheeps' area and pick out the weakest one. That guy was fun and kind in conversation when we first started talking. That wolf entered a farm of happy sheep and chose one to try and take advantage of. 

 

Regarding another post of yours- 

They get what they asked for? You really like blaming the victim, don't you? It's like you think rapists are honest about their intentions and girls are like "lol okay!" That's not the case.

A vast majority of rape victims are hurt by people they know. It's often a "friend" who pushes it too far, a spouse who feels entitled to their bodies, or a family member who sees an opportunity and acts on it. 

I agree people should be careful, but I also think saying they were "asking for it" is flawed and ignorant of actual facts about how rape happens. Thankfully your way of thinking is being phased out so instead of victims being told they're wrong, society is telling the actual rapist that they're the wrong one. 

[aaronyoji 2,053]

Well I think that people here think way on the extremes... on HEALTHY cases, people that aren't raped, killed or something like that, they can PREVENT things from happening...

Anyway this is my humble opinion and yours is yours... just avoid putting stuff in my mouth that I didn't say like ALL VICTIMS ARE TO BLAME... what I truly mean is that people deserve to know that if they consciously go to the place of an abuser, they will most probably be abused! 

but the most often cases of rape are with people you know, trust, know in passing, friends of friends. no one goes to a party and thinks "uh oh, this is a place of an abuser" until it becomes that way, because of the rapist. 

[PartySick 153,967]

 

(just decided to empty the quote since you've had to repeat yourself a few times )

I get what you're saying...when a person goes into a dangerous environment, say, they're running alone through the park at night, holding a certainty that they'll come out unscathed is foolish because anything can happen. That much is true.

However, if it weren't for that criminal (rapist, abuser, whatever) that environment wouldn't be a dangerous one in the first place, ya know? So in no situation is it ok to cast even a bit of blame onto the victim because it's the fault of the person who decided to assault the victim in the first place. Yes, people should be cautious and wary of some situations, but when they get burned, you can't blame them because they didn't light the fire...(metaphors )

Oh! and have a