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Madonna about Tidal: "Remember nothing is for free!"


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AbuHassan1992

​You know what I meant, like I made a transcation for that album specifically not a whole catalogue of music. 

I don't get why i was singled out either, or why the guy still hasn't apologized to me lol. People on here always wanna be the person that exposes someone else.. But they don't realize how pathetic they make themselves look when they attack people for no reason.

​I didn't single you out, in fact I quoted a bunch of people.

what the **** are you talking about trying to "expose"?

get it together.

 

and why the hell should i apologize?

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badboymonsterx

​Loads of people pay for Spotify premium; loads of people buy lots of albums - there's no difference to tidal and this. It's only "less economical" if you don't have a wide taste in music and like only Gaga for example.

The fool is the person who thinks paying for music is stupid and if you're in the category of people who don't pay for their music; then tidal isn't aiming to attract you.  

I previewed TIDAL and the sound quality is just the same as Spotify! Perhaps there are certain songs/albums that sound better, but is that worth paying $20/month? No way! I wouldn't even pay $5/month for that. PS Nothing is "exclusive" in the new digital era, so that other selling point of theirs is just as invalid to me

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I'll pay for music, :yes: BUT if it cost me $20 a month, for a better quality.. in which you can't even tell the difference between them, then no, MADONNA!  :wao: ill stay my happy go lucky ass with spotify! 

where the quality is good, for a damn good reasonable price. :bye: 

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Spotify has 60 million users is the US. Only 15 million are paying subscribers. That leaves 45 million users that essentially get their music for free. Yes, they have to put up with ads...just like commercials on network TV (which is free in the US), but they aren't paying a monthly subscription. 

At this time, Spotify would be a comparable option for one-fourth of the Spotify users. Maybe that is who Tidal is aiming for. Then, they will have to convince people that Tidal is better than Spotify in some way. I don't think offering some artists' "exclusives" is going to be the thing that convinces people to abandon what they are used to and spend the time and effort to change over. 

​I already specified that I meant Spotify premium though; to whom Tidal is obviously aiming. Are they going to attract majority of Spotify premium users; no - tidal doesn't really have any massive edge over it, but most of the criticism of Tidal is seemingly coming from people who either use a free streaming system or people who torrent music; which is surely akin to people with only network tv complaining about new cable providers based on misconceptions.  Your last sentence is basically why I won't be moving from Spotify to Tidal, plus a pretty ugly look.

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​I didn't single you out, in fact I quoted a bunch of people.

what the **** are you talking about trying to "expose"?

get it together.

 

and why the hell should i apologize?

​Lol because I was literally talking about how people should pay for music (which is a sentiment you share). If I had been saying "music is a right and I'm going to continue illegally downloading songs" then I would understand why you shouted at me but I didn't. You're making yourself look like a real ass so I'll just sit back and let you defame yourself :whitney:

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Whispering

 

There's definitely some odd misconception going around GGD that Tidal is only going to have the music of those 18 or whatever artists. :spin: 

No, there's not. Everyone here is well aware that this service does not contain only the work  of 18 artists. 

There is skepticism, though, and it wasn't a very good presentation for what they say they are trying to accomplish. I've seen doubt and skeptics all over music boards and tech sites. I've seen people who I know, without a doubt, are huge fans of one or more of those 18 artists, state that they are sticking with their free version of Spotify or even with other paid services that they are used to. I've seen them question the overall presentation and branding, the 3% share that the artists have coming and the lack of real information on how much the lowly underpaid artists will end up receiving. 

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No, there's not. Everyone here is well aware that this service does not contain only the work  of 18 artists. 

There is skepticism, though, and it wasn't a very good presentation for what they say they are trying to accomplish. I've seen doubt and skeptics all over music boards and tech sites. I've seen people who I know, without a doubt, are huge fans of one or more of those 18 artists, state that they are sticking with their free version of Spotify or even with other paid services that they are used to. I've seen them question the overall presentation and branding, the 3% share that the artists have coming and the lack of real information on how much the lowly underpaid artists will end up receiving. 

​Such a big deal over a 3%? Really? :deadbanana:

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No, there's not. Everyone here is well aware that this service does not contain only the work  of 18 artists. 

There is skepticism, though, and it wasn't a very good presentation for what they say they are trying to accomplish. I've seen doubt and skeptics all over music boards and tech sites. I've seen people who I know, without a doubt, are huge fans of one or more of those 18 artists, state that they are sticking with their free version of Spotify or even with other paid services that they are used to. I've seen them question the overall presentation and branding, the 3% share that the artists have coming and the lack of real information on how much the lowly underpaid artists will end up receiving. 

​Not just that (which people are very unconvincingly proving their knowledge of) - people quoting the price of $20 per month whilst entirely ignoring the existence of the tier in direct competition to Spotify and Google Play.

If a person is a user of free Spotify; of course they're not going to move to Tidal - that's surely common sense. Of course there are people criticising the tacky presentation, pretentious branding and the ambiguity at the moment regarding the real benefit for artists at the moment. Most of the criticism on GGD however is not coming from those positions.

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Whispering

​Not just that (which people are very unconvincingly proving their knowledge of) - people quoting the price of $20 per month whilst entirely ignoring the existence of the tier in direct competition to Spotify and Google Play.

If a person is a user of free Spotify; of course they're not going to move to Tidal - that's surely common sense. Of course there are people criticising the tacky presentation, pretentious branding and the ambiguity at the moment regarding the real benefit for artists at the moment. Most of the criticism on GGD however is not coming from those positions.

The same criticism is on various music boards, probably due to the presentation and branding thusfar. A different roll out approach would have been better for introducing this service. 

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NewYorkCity

​But the platform has the music of all those "non-millionaire" artists too; so they are benefiting - the press release involved simply the "owners" as they put them. We don't really know what was on the 'declaration' and realistically it was nothing more than a publicity stunt to bulk out an incredibly boring press event. 

There's definitely some odd misconception going around GGD that Tidal is only going to have the music of those 18 or whatever artists. :spin: 

I said: to have a part of the company benefits. Which has been published, the artists who were there are getting money from the company appart from their own music streams.

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I said: to have a part of the company benefits. Which has been published, the artists who were there are getting money from the company appart from their own music streams.

​Well yes but surely they too will have to input money/something potentially losing them profits elsewhere into the business as "owners" would suggest? Their business venture is entirely different to their profits as an artist; in whatever form they will be in the future taking a risk to benefit the service as a whole - it makes sense that they would potentially therefore benefit from that in the longrun.

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Darcklighter22

i'm willing to pay for music but not $20 a month bye

​that's ok you don't need to since there is a no lossless membership as well 320kbps at 9.99$ :flirt:

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Princess Die

Honestly I don't have that much of an issue with TIDAL other than the fact I KNOW it won't be as accessible to artists as Spotify is. :smh:

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