Missouri chaos continues post-Michael Brown's death

[Morphine Prince 109,692]

Note for this person. Americans own guns...lots of them. Many average citizens even have assault rifle in their homes. In fact, more than 488,000 machine guns and more than 2 million “destructive devices†such as grenades, are registered to citizens.

 

You can have riot police like the picture above, if no one else owns a gun in the riot. That's not the case in the US.

 

Let's be serious here. There are enough guns, and most likely assault rifles, in Fergusen alone to have an all out war with the police force there at this time.

 

I hate guns...don't own one, and I live in one of the top 5 violent cities consistently in the US. I also understand the need for the police force to have guns, when the U.S. has the best-armed civilian population in the world, with an estimated 270 million total guns. That’s an average of 89 firearms for every 100 residents.

Clock ha lol.

[WH0RE 1]

"Icelandic police shot dead a man who refused to stop firing at them with a shotgun in the capital of Reykjavik earlier today  and then they apologized. It was the first time that anyone in the country was killed by police gunfire.

    "The police regret this incident and wishes to extend its condolences to the man’s family," said national police chief Haraldur Johannessen.

    Details of the event have yet to emerge, but this much is clear: Iceland is a weird place. The population of the island is 325,000, while the number of registered firearms is 90,000, which when you consider that Iceland also has children, suggests that more than a third of the population is armed. So why don’t Iceland’s police have to shoot people?

    St. Louis happens to have about the same population as Iceland. Last year, the city’s police chief ordered a study of incidents in which officers shot at suspects. As reported by the St. Louis Post Dispatch, that happened 98 times in the 2008-2011 period, and 12 of the people shot at died.

    I don’t think you can say the difference is because a lot of Iceland is rural  all but about 25,000 of the population are urban dwellers. And the National Rifle Association will be pleased to hear that it can’t all be accounted for by gun ownership: True, the U.S. has almost 90 guns per 100 people, compared with 30 per 100 in Iceland, but if gun ownership were the key difference you would expect a much narrower differential in police shootings.

    One factor may be that only SWAT teams of the kind called in for in today’s shooting are allowed to carry guns; the rest of the police don’t. So the average officer  let alone a neighborhood watch character such as Florida’s George Zimmerman  can’t shoot anyone because they aren’t armed. And one reason they don’t need to be armed is that the homicide rate in Iceland is so low  on average, fewer than 0.3 per 100,000 of population, compared with 5 per 100,000 in the U.S. In 2009, according to the Global Study on Homicide, just one person was murdered in Iceland.

    In an article for the BBC, Andrew Clark, a law student from Suffolk University Law School in Boston, described his decision to write his thesis on Iceland’s low violent crime rate after visiting the country’s capital in 2012. He found that Icelanders happily pick up strangers in their cars and leave their babies unattended in the street. To a Londoner, New Yorker or Bostonian, that’s unheard of. He concluded that the biggest reason for Iceland’s low violent-crime rate was social equality. Rich and poor go to the same schools, while 1.1 percent say they are upper class, 1.5 percent lower class  and the rest in between. So there’s less resentment and anger.

    Another point might be that although there are a lot of guns in Iceland (Icelanders like to hunt), buying one requires stringent checks, including a medical exam and a written test. That may prevent people from buying and using guns in a fit of anger. It might also explain why very few of Iceland’s very few homicides involve firearms.

    There are other possible factors, of course. For example, Icelanders have very low rates of d--g abuse. It isn’t clear why, but as soon as there was a sniff of a problem in 1973, the government established special police units and courts to tackle it. I’m guessing they had very little else to do."

 

 

interesting read, but i get how this probably wouldnt work in the US, but it could possibly be achieved over a long period of time

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ok but if stronger gun control for US civilians would be enforced then their regular police should also be unarmed, its how it works in other countries. The US seems to have dug themselves deep into a hole regarding guns tho, maybe gun control would be to difficult to make happen in the US

 

so i get what your saying basically

 

Of course and I'm all for it! That's not the current situation, though, so that tweet was rather ridiculous.

And I'm afraid there is no turning this crazy gun-obsessed ship around. The US government is too scared to even pass stricter background checks for assault rifles.

[Qualle1 1,385]

In Germany we have currently around 82.000.000 inhabitants and in 2012 the police shot only 8 (in words: eight) people dead. Moreover the police did fire only 36 shoots within the entire year from their guns.

I really would like to see in comparsion the numbers from the USA!

Actually, we will never understand here the love and admiration of the US-Americans for their bloody weapons...

[Prometheus 1,494]

In Germany we have currently around 82.000.000 inhabitants and in 2012 the police shot only 8 (in words: eight) people dead. Moreover the police did fire only 36 shoots within the entire year from their guns.

I really would like to see in comparsion the numbers from the USA!

Actually, we will never understand here the love and admiration of the US-Americans for their bloody weapons...

Because with weapons we fought and gained our freedom from tyranny. Should something like that happen again, we would like to defend ourselves. 

 

Also, people enjoy hunting. 

[Princess Die 1,864]

Anonymous have identified the killer. Please add this to OP and spread around as much as possible.

 

[No Angel 128]

1. Antonio French was released from a Ferguson Jail and is currently recounting the events that lead up to it.

 

2. People in Missouri are calling for Nationwide Peaceful Protests in support of Michel Brown. 

 

3. People in Gaza are showing solidarity to Ferguson residents and protestors who are there are the moment.

 

4. You have THE RIGHT to record Police officers despite them gassing out countless journalists with cameras taping.

[Qualle1 1,385]

Because with weapons we fought and gained our freedom from tyranny. Should something like that happen again, we would like to defend ourselves. 

 

Also, people enjoy hunting.

Are you being serious and talking about the American Revolutionary War, which took place 1775 - 1783?

This is actually no reason to be armed like a terrorist as a private person!

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The world is going mad. I really don't even know what to say about this. It's indeed heart-wrenching.

[MahoganySnitch 67]

Because with weapons we fought and gained our freedom from tyranny. Should something like that happen again, we would like to defend ourselves. 

 

Also, people enjoy hunting. 

Hi Prometheus, I'm sure this talking point I'm about to bring up has been countered, but I'll ask you for your opinion. Should the U.S.government decide to declare martial law and the like, the citizens who like to defend themselves have to do so...against the might of the U.S. Army, who would be enforcing the hypothetical neo-U.S. government's rule. Considering firearm power alone, it seems...unlikely that a population can fight an enemy that has nuclear potential. But again, I'm sure this point has been countered, so IDK. 

[Prometheus 1,494]

Are you being serious and talking about the American Revolutionary War, which took place 1775 - 1783?

This is actually no reason to be armed like a terrorist as a private person!

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Armed like a terrorist?

 

Honey, do you realize what weapons are and aren't allowed to be owned by a civilian? Get back to me when you know more about America and not just what the media feeds you.   

 

By the way, revolutions go on all the time throughout the world.  :reductive: Can can't always trust the government/the powers put over you. This thread = case and point. I'm not saying these people should shoot the cops, but should no one intervene and anarchy ensue throughout and entire area...

 

Have fun defending yourself with your kitchenware. 

Hi Prometheus, I'm sure this talking point I'm about to bring up has been countered, but I'll ask you for your opinion. Should the U.S.government decide to declare martial law and the like, the citizens who like to defend themselves have to do so...against the might of the U.S. Army, who would be enforcing the hypothetical neo-U.S. government's rule. Considering firearm power alone, it seems...unlikely that a population can fight an enemy that has nuclear potential. But again, I'm sure this point has been countered, so IDK. 

You just need to fight your way out. You can run away and if anyone tries to stop you with lethal force... Or if you want to defend your property. I am saying an extreme case. Honestly, guns are usually used for recreation (shooting targets) or hunting (which is a popular pastime in Missouri). 

Anonymous have identified the killer. Please add this to OP and spread around as much as possible.

 

We don't know if this is accurate though. Are we going to blame a man for a horrible murder when we don't have facts? The internet has f--ked up before and blamed innocent people of s--t they didn't do and some have committed suicide for it. I need irrefutable proof that he did it.

[MahoganySnitch 67]

You just need to fight your way out. You can run away and if anyone tries to stop you with lethal force... Or if you want to defend your property. I am saying an extreme case. Honestly, guns are usually used for recreation (shooting targets) or hunting (which is a popular pastime in Missouri). 

I can see that. It's just when I see people talking about taking down the world's leading military force with a local militia, I'm like

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[Prometheus 1,494]

I can see that. It's just when I see people talking about taking down the world's leading military force with a local militia, I'm like

It isn't about taking it down. I'm not foolish. I'm talking about having something to defend yourself with so you can escape/disappear. 

[MahoganySnitch 67]

It isn't about taking it down. I'm not foolish. I'm talking about having something to defend yourself with so you can escape/disappear. 

Oh, I didn't mean it as if YOu were saying it I get what you're saying about fighting for a chance to make a run for it. I meant the people who genuinely think they can take on the Army head-on if that time ever came. 

[Qualle1 1,385]

Armed like a terrorist?

 

Honey, do you realize what weapons are and aren't allowed to be owned by a civilian? Get back to me when you know more about America and not just what the media feeds you.   

 

By the way, revolutions go on all the time throughout the world.  :reductive: Can can't always trust the government/the powers put over you. This thread = case and point. I'm not saying these people should shoot the cops, but should no one intervene and anarchy ensue throughout and entire area...

 

Have fun defending yourself with your kitchenware. 

You just need to fight your way out. You can run away and if anyone tries to stop you with lethal force... Or if you want to defend your property. I am saying an extreme case. Honestly, guns are usually used for recreation (shooting targets) or hunting (which is a popular pastime in Missouri). 

We don't know if this is accurate though. Are we going to blame a man for a horrible murder when we don't have facts? The internet has ****ed up before and blamed innocent people of **** they didn't do and some have committed suicide for it. I need irrefutable proof that he did it.

I give up...

Have fun killing each other over there...