Whispering 18,865 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Even worse! But...but...you don't disagree or object, right? :roll: How can it be "worse" when you approved of the tweets all along? You only stated that THREE TIMES!!!!11111 :haha: You sure do comment a lot over something you completely agree and approve of. ;) Oh yeah..., you are sharing how everyone else must feel about this subject. lol You could let your fellow Madonna stans speak for themselves, you know? They are doing a good enough job flooding the thread with their multiple posts. Why do you need to explain what they are saying, when we can read their comments on every page of this thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 mdna tour says hello Replying on the controversy caused by the feud between biggest pop star on the planet and M helped a lot! :applause: ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 But...but...you don't disagree or object, right? :roll: How can it be "worse" when you approved of the tweets all along? You only stated that THREE TIMES!!!!11111 :haha: You sure do comment a lot over something you completely agree and approve of. ;) Oh yeah..., you are sharing how everyone else must feel about this subject. lol You could let your fellow Madonna stans speak for themselves, you know? They are doing a good enough job flooding the thread with their multiple posts. Why do you need to explain what they are saying, when we can read their comments on every page of this thread? *Even worse________... leads to people even using this against Gaga even further. *Its not my fault I got like 30 quotes in this thread alone, but of course I have to explain myself right now cause you can't keep yourself from attacking me on a personal level, bye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houdini 103 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Well that's what happenes when you leach off the biggest pop star on the planet. :reductive: i don't think people came to see Madonna for earring 30 seconds of btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Replying on the controversy caused by the feud between biggest pop star on the planet and M helped a lot! That performance lasted roughly only one minute long, the tour is 2 hours long. do I need to remind you that Madonna made 120 million dollars that year? And you're not being the superior fan base by calling Madonna irrelevant when the receipts clearly beg to differ. Edited July 17, 2014 by Jjang Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Gaga didn't need any more defenders in the thread. It was Jjang and Houdini who were getting attacked for their legitimate perspectives. I thought it was funny. Yeah, she went back on her message, but she's done it before and I've come to expect it. I don't think Jjang and Houdini are bad people though for holding her to a higher standard. I think the concept of "loyalty" in this kind of stuff is cringeworthy and prevents people from thinking critically. Jijang and Houdini were getting attacked because (not to my surprise) they were attacking Gaga. And she didn't go back on her word omg. PromoteOnlineKindness was about not bullying other people over the internet (like how she was and still is being bullied by Madonna fans) and not sending death threats and what not. She wasn't going against that by defending herself. She and her lover were being attacked so if anything she is supporting her statements. And she also says to stand up for yourself all the time but no one is mentioning that because it's "cool" to bash Gaga so you don't look like a "delusional stan" (a label I have noticed is given to anyone who stands up for Gaga). ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I disagree. Maybe Madonna has talent as a businesswomen but it is very well known she is not a musician. Just because you learned to play a couple of chords on the guitar at age 40 does not make you a musician, especially not at the level of Gaga. Otherwise I guess I am a musician too. As far as I remember, Madonna learnt to play the guitar before she could sing. Her singing (when she chooses to do so ) isn't even all that bad and some of her older performances showcase that. Dancing is equally as much a talent and even in her 50s Madonna is about 100x the dancer gaga is. In terms of vocals though, yeah Gaga is definitely better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiltedbliss 915 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Guys, stop it Stop fighting Madonna is amazing. Gaga is amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Well that's what happenes when you leach off the biggest pop star on the planet. :reductive: How do you explain the sticky and sweet tour then, of 2008, which was even larger? If we're going to be shady in a nonsensical way, one could argue that Lady Gaga is exactly what happens when you leach off the biggest pop star on the planet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 That performance lasted roughly only one minute long, the tour is 2 hours long. do I need to remind you that Madonna made 120 million dollars that year? And you're not being the superior fan base by calling Madonna irrelevant when the receipts clearly beg to differ. Do I need to remind you that the public interest in that year was greatly generated by the Gaga shade? Oh but no... You are the first person to label anyone as "delusional" (:roll:) but when it's Madonna everything she does is sooooo perfect and she didn't need to start the fight to be interesting that era. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Do I need to remind you that the public interest in that year was greatly generated by the Gaga shade? Oh but no... You are the first person to label anyone as "delusional" ( :roll:) but when it's Madonna everything she does is sooooo perfect and she didn't need to start the fight to be interesting that era. Yes because the MDNA tour sold tickets because she said that the whole BTW - EY situation is reductive. The MDNA tour grossed over 350 million dollars, that's double of that the BTWB did. MDNA and ARTPOP sales are almost identical too. Madonna doesn't need Gaga to be relevant. Edited July 17, 2014 by Jjang Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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boomsheekie 0 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) As far as I remember, Madonna learnt to play the guitar before she could sing. Her singing (when she chooses to do so ) isn't even all that bad and some of her older performances showcase that. Dancing is equally as much a talent and even in her 50s Madonna is about 100x the dancer gaga is. In terms of vocals though, yeah Gaga is definitely better. I don't think Madonna can dance. Pilates does not equate to dancing to me. And she learnt to at guitar during her music era. Well a few chords. I don't want to give her credit when it's not due. And she could never song of course. Just look at the latest fiasco at the Grammys. Yes because the MDNA tour sold tickets because she said that the whole BTW - EY situation is reductive. The MDNA tour grossed over 350 million dollars, that's double of that the BTWB did. MDNA and ARTPOP sales are almost identical too. Madonna doesn't need Gaga to be relevant. Yes she does, she needs Britney, Justin, Niki Minaj and now Katy Perry to stay relevant. See, that is the main thing to her. To stay relevant for some reason and she does anything to remain relevant even step on people. To the point she has not been able to have a meaningful romantic relationship ever in her life. Edited July 17, 2014 by boomsheekie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I don't think Madonna can dance. Pilates does not equate to dancing to me. And she learnt to at guitar during her music era. Well a few chords. I don't want to give her credit when it's not due. And she could never song of course. Just look at the latest fiasco at the Grammys. You don't think Madonna can dance? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l0gKqYGSr0 I disagree with your others points too (except the grammys, they were a mess - but using a single example does not make for a rule) but it's literally ridiculous to believe that Madonna can't dance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 How do you explain the sticky and sweet tour then, of 2008, which was even larger? If we're going to be shady in a nonsensical way, one could argue that Lady Gaga is exactly what happens when you leach off the biggest pop star on the planet. You are saying Gaga leached off Madonna. you must be a stan... My belief is when the new pop girls came into the biz Madonna bagan to fade. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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