Miel 15,009 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 So was the instrumental the band used the one Gaga worked on, or was it still Madeon's skeleton? Either way, at least we're getting word on this lol edit: why would it have been 'stolen', anyway? Madeon made the instrumental, and at worst it should be considered 'recycled', not stolen. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raikou 1,169 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Justice for one of the best tracks in her career! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 64,197 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 People on here freak out and lose their **** waaaaaaaay too quickly. I don't even know where y'all find the energy to have constant meltdowns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegahedron 165 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I don't necessarily see that this completely vindicates Gaga, I'm afraid. I did some homework into 'topline' writing and how it works. This might make interesting reading for some: http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2011/aug/26/topline-melody-disputes-artists-songwriters Obviously nobody really knows what happened here, as we we don't have the full story. However, it sounds probable that Madeon simply produced the background and distributed it to a bunch of artists, including Gaga, who then added lyrics to over top (hence topline). I would imagine after Madeon chose to work with Gaga's idea that the two then collaborated to adjust the song to the finished product. This is very different from Gaga penning a blueprint of lyrics / chords on her piano, and then sending to Madeon to produce an electronic backing production - which is how I have always imagined her songs being produced, and certainly the way that it has previously been described and portrayed (á la "creative vomit"). Perhaps the style of producing / writing for ARTPOP differed from her previous releases. I think my discomfort comes from the fact that the root of the song, its core sound, tone and melody, has not come originally from Gaga herself. Though she added to the finished product, I can't help but feel this devalues the credibility of her creative contribution. I am being a negative nancy, but I can't help expressing myself - very happy to be politely disabused! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flawless 2,215 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 People on here freak out and lose their **** waaaaaaaay too quickly. I don't even know where y'all find the energy to have constant meltdowns. the scars on my mind are on replay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Her songwriting process has run the gamut between her writing on the piano and leaving it that way, to collaborating with a producer to produce an idea, to writing lyrics over existing production ideas the producer had. Writing lyrics over producers work started with Just Dance. This is not remotely new and no sign of her being "lazy" in the ARTPOP era except for people looking for excuses to drag her. Her best song Bloody Mary was an existing DJWS beat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara 1,128 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I think my discomfort comes from the fact that the root of the song, its core sound, tone and melody, has not come originally from Gaga herself. Though she added to the finished product, I can't help but feel this devalues the credibility of her creative contribution. I am being a negative nancy, but I can't help expressing myself - very happy to be politely disabused!Gaga's input into the creative process varies by song, but it's always a LOT.Sure, it would be a little more impressive if Gaga could have engineered the sound of MJH herself. But that's very special skills to craft music from waveforms. It would be even more impressive if Gaga did the production herself, and the recording herself, and drew the CD cover herself, and packaged the CD's herself and did the promo herself etc.All the while, many fans are complaining that Gaga is doing too much by herself already. :smh: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Candy 3,970 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I LOVE YOU GAGA! <3 buy 'Paper or Plastic' by Brooke candy on iTunes NOW!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I LOVE YOU GAGA! <3 FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegahedron 165 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Gaga's input into the creative process varies by song, but it's always a LOT. Sure, it would be a little more impressive if Gaga could have engineered the sound of MJH herself. But that's very special skills to craft music from waveforms. It would be even more impressive if Gaga did the production herself, and the recording herself, and drew the CD cover herself, and packaged the CD's herself and did the promo herself etc. All the while, many fans are complaining that Gaga is doing too much by herself already. What I mean is that the base melody itself (i.e. the chords, the bass, the accompaniments etc) would have been drafted, even in rough, by Gaga acoustically. In this instance it seems that she did not, and that her main contribution was writing lyrics to fit what Madeon had created. Fair play to Gaga - she has always been pretty upfront about the fact that her albums are a collaborative work (and lets not forget that even the acknowledgement of 'Haus' is far more than most other mainstream stars acknowledge in terms of their creative support). I am just a little jarred, because of my previous interpretation of her creative / composition process. I think in the past (circa. Born This Way) I had the impression she had a more direct input into the electronic production, though it became apparent that this was perhaps not wholly true (I was a bit surprised when she said that Venus was her first 'solo' production). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael 533 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brizoda 3,379 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 appart from this, is Gaga writing new music? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMXIX 51 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Who cares.. Really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
codymonster 8,488 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Lmfao. All you meltdowners happy now? :lmao: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado 2,439 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 now everyone can calm their tits ikr, people on this site are such dramaqueens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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