Miel 15,009 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Katy's doing really good right now because she's doing what the people like. Nothing wrong with that, and (at least it seems like) she's not trying too to be anything more than a simple pop star. She fits every nook and cranny of the typical standard of a "pop star", and I guess it's very likable. Gaga, on the other hand, is not. imo she's been torn down through BTW/ARTPOP because she isn't fitting the mold. TF was "wow so weird but cool". TFM was "wow so dark so cool". When she started making even bolder statements with BTW and ARTPOP, I feel like a lot of people didn't know what to think, including her fans. There's a stigma on Gaga, both good and bad, that she's "not really like the others". Or something. Even when she's at her lowest, I think people will still see her as doing more than her other peer pop stars ever did. Whether that's good and bad is subjective. idk i'm rambling 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiuga 1,970 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 have you ever read any article of a--lysis about katy perry's work and artistry? I'm sure you can find tons of a--lysis about gaga's work though this shows you who's more influential Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Read what I am about to type and make it clear in your head: Katy has never, is not, and will NEVER EVER reach the standards Gaga is on. No matter how many #1s she gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw 0 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The media kept gaga huge even as her btw singles didn't do so well on the chart and people started losing interest. The gp was never going to make ARTPOP as big as previous successes because a lot of them had kinda moved on. She turned a lot of people off tbh and now she's slowly getting them back. She just needs that big hit again but she don't care about the charts which is cool I love her for what she does ...katy perry on the other hand hasn't done anything to turn people off yet she doesn't talk too much about politics or religion or anything except how deep some of the songs on prism are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,089 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The answer to your question is simple, and that is accessability. Katy Perry's music is simply simple fun music than almost eveyone can relate to in one way or another. Most of Gaga's music is much more specific and original to only Gaga. And this immediately reduces the broad appeal of the public. I really wish the GP felt that way.. and I wish that what u said is and was true.. but.. I mean.. if gaga is fine dining and she costs as much as fast food.. why would you ever pick fast food? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnTheMoon 157 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I think that if Katy gets 30 more number ones in her career and Gaga never gets another, Lady Gaga will still be Lady Gaga. People are starting to appreciate her risk taking a little bit. Her talent as a performer distinguishes her from her peers as well. When Gaga was huge back in 2009-2011/2012, it wasn't just because of the new sound and ideas she brought with her; it was more than that. She also brought back a type of stage charisma and persona that was reminiscent of the likes of Michael Jackson and Madonna. In addition, Gaga's hit songs are iconic (BR, PF, BTW, ect.) and are still enjoyed and remembered after a couple years after they were released. just heard bad romance on the way home from work tonight. :ARTPOP: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 if you read the lyrics of the vast majority of the big female pop stars, you would be hard pressed to tell who the performer is. This is because most pop songs by these artists are written by other people and shopped around, they are rarely very specific to an individual performer. Read a Gaga lyric however, and much of the time you will have no doubt who the writer was. That is what makes her unique, but also makes her more difficult for "The GP" to get, or even fans, if they are not willing to put in a little effort or accept that Gaga's lyrics are going to be a bit eccentric compared to everyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masaki 71 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Gaga is Gaga, and Katy is Katy. One is not the other. If I must be honest though, what exactly has Katy done to cause even half as much of a stir as Gaga did? Katy has plenty of hits, but, being as objective as I possibly can, she has yet to do anything memorable other than have hit songs. She'll be remembered, if only for her hits, but Gaga caused movements and moments in pop culture along with having hit songs. Katy has yet to replicate that in my opinion. (I did not mean to be shady by this at all.) THIS. THIS SO MUCH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little7Monster 0 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I think Katy Perry is a great artist, but has a "safer" set of songs to choose from when it comes to singles. Gaga was this incredible star when she debuted because she was different. Her appearance and pop/dance music was a welcomed change to the music industry, and plus, people just didn't get her. They swarmed to her to try and understand what her deal was. The honeymoon phase is over, and people are not flocking to her because the "new" has worn off. Gaga is a more closely followed star than Katy, but Katy is more successful on the charts lately. To me, Katy is an overall likable person whether you are a fan of her music or not. There is not a huge division between fans and non-fans; controversy and debate isn't there. Music debate aside, people either love Katy, or are indifferent about her. Gaga fans are completely different. She is a love/hate individual. There is no indifference. Most of the population went to her when she was new to get an answer for all of the "weird" stuff, but didn't really get it. Flashforward a few years, and people see her persona as a gimmick--i.e. those that hate her. It isn't a justified hate, but they expected her artistry to be a gimmick, or a publicity stunt, but it is still happening. There are those that still stand by her and lover her for her music, and appreciate the fashion. Both artists are incredible successful, but Gaga has a brand of music, and radio just doesn't want to play it because it is perfectly in line with the trends, now. Remember, the general public is bigger than the monster fan base, therefore they control the charts way more than the fans do. Gaga will not survive on perceived publicity stunts, or controversial music/videos. They are fun for us, but they public wants something new from her. Think of when she came out and was the oddball. Now, everyone caught up and made their own versions of Gaga. She's one with the crowd, and not the unique, cool, one anymore. It is no way a slam to either artist, but Katy found a brand of music that is safe for her, and successful. Katy is all music. Gaga has too, but she has evolved her sound, and mixed it with other endeavors. Again, this is potentially perceived as a stunt by the public. They roll their eyes, and ignore it. There is hate towards Gaga, but it shouldn't exist. Indifference is fine, but she isn't doing anything wrong to deserve it. I'm sure the time will come where Gaga has #1s again, but her publicity machine has to start running at full capacity again. She has missed many opportunities to succeed, and needs to work on promoting her album/singles more. It may not be all about charts, but it gets people to buy the music, and funds her future. She can produce number one hits, but it needs to be about the music, not artists, and music, and whatnot. Her art has been good, and I like that she has been more than just a pop singer, but the people want music. Music should be the sole focus, then slowly add in the art. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitwrecked 183 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 No. Katy has still remained the live cat wailing pop princess she always has been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,240 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 No. Katy didn't replace Gaga. Katy is being Katy, the cute pop girl who rather chooses to play it safe and release radio-friendly singles and so on ans so forth. Gaga isn't all that. I mean it's enough for me that whenever Katy tries to put on some weird outfits, people will be like 'oh, she's pulling a Gaga.' Gaga is still there, boys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsches 17,388 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 NO. Katy Perry might have those 100 #1 Hits, but she isnt talked about, nobody discusses her performances or her music videos, she has no shock factor. People might just like her music when it's on the radio, but she has no impact...and besides, where is she? People don't know what she's doing/where she's performing/when something new is released unless they are fans, but Katy's hardcore fanbase has never been that big. Gaga might have lost her "omg, she's so cool" factor or her "what the hell is she doin?"-factor, and her music is not #1 (Which it has never really been in the US), but so far she had much more impact and she HAD all these shock factors, and even if she would never shock the world ever again (which I dont think will happen) at least she HAD these moments, so her place in music industry is unique and Katy Perry will not achieve that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespertine 3 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Some cheap copy can never replace the original. :golfclap: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaojen 1,571 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I think the GP is basic. Just as basic as Katy Perry. I don't hate Katy but I have little respect for someone who needs 5 other people to help her'write' a song. Gaga is the only radio artist that I Stan for. I hate pop radio in general and think it is STUPID and BASIC to listen to top 40 radio all the damn time and care about your artist slaying others or who is the top pop queen. This is probably why I could care less how Gaga is doing with the GP. THEY BASIC AF Pop(ular) radio is less about quality. To me, Gaga is quality in both performing and writing her own music. KP is manufactured and easy to like for the people who are as basic as her. Sorry to be harsh but idgaf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkBeep 0 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Katy is the 'it' girl more than Gaga now I'd say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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