WheresTheDoggo 11 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 "If you don't like it that she is not No.1, go stan for Katy Perry"... WHY? Just why do so many people write this? It's so stupid and really disrespectful imho. And why is Gaga even going to fansites? She should be working on music, videos and so on, and if she can't handle criticism than should really avoid internet. She is human, she can look at whatever fansite she likes, she's not a trained monkey sitting in a room making albums for you and you say Emma was disrespectful, don't you think she has enough on her plate right now? "She should be working on music, videos and so on" don't you think that's disrespectful, no she shouldn't because it's christmas ffs, she need this time with her family hey I'm Doggo :derpga: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado 2,439 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 I do not agree. She's only avoiding kids' complaints. Why do you think she doesn't take criticism from people in the business that have REAL knowledge about music, visuals, art direction, money, performances, etc? There is a huge amount of members here that think they can drive a whole career when they actually have noooo idea. It's ridiculous. The 'stan 4 Katy' is a message from EMMA to the #1 addicts so they can stop their drama. thats true lol, i dont think she wants to listen to 15 year old kids with nothing more important to do that spend the whole day being here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qmpierre000 24 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Tomorrow, Gaga retires from music after going on Gaga Daily and reading comments. You guys are welcome. I would honestly not be surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 I am not surprised about her decision to stop visiting this board for a while. The negativity around the release of ARTPOP as well as the drama about the delay of the DWUW video-clip and its performance on the charts is ridiculous. And the way other popstars constantly get bashed and insulted by certain stans is also pathetic. MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel 12,525 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Not really. I can only imagine how she felt when she read all the negative posts, comparisons thread, flop comments from everywhere. Aren't haters enough? We should supporting her in the good and the bad. She messed up sometime this era, YES, but we shouldn't all go at her like that. Yeah well, I still think that she shouldn't let these comments get to her that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter 3,640 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Gaga not visiting GGD only supports the theory that she would rather surround herself with yes-men and yasss-twinks rather than face criticism. I get that some members go too far with their meltdowns, but there are a lot that have constructive criticism too. If her largest fansite is displeased with the era, that should be setting off alarms that what she's doing isn't working. Not all of this "negativity" is because her sales or chart positions are underwhelming. Maybe some fans aren't happy with the quality of her work? And the hypocrisy of saying "stan for Katy" and "stop the drama" in the same status hands down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen 99 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) When did this place become "insert your head into Gaga's rectum-daily"? For ANYONE, yes, ANYONE to develop and grow they need feedback and "negativity" (fyi just because someone criticizes something doesn't mean that it's baseless hate) otherwise they will keep making the same mistakes. In real life you need to learn to deal with criticism or ignore it; I thought that DWUW was all about that. I'd say 70% of the "negativity" is blatant fooling around. She is getting too sensitive and I don't like it. Not everything she does is artistic or good and she needs to accept that. I honestly don't care about chart positions or typical "stan" things, and I've been satisfied with ARTPOP (mostly), but if people want to have an opinion about her work then they are allowed that opinion. I'd rather be classed as a hater than one of those annoying stans who worship gaga's used tampons. Also, I can't at the amount of fan shaming and asslicking in this thread, a lot of you need to get a grip. Edited December 24, 2013 by Artamate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 And the hypocrisy of saying "stan for Katy" and "stop the drama" in the same status How so? Katy is good at charts currently, if that's what you want, you'll be happier staning for her. That better than trying to remake Gaga into Katy so she can "win" some stupid battle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haus.Of.Latex. 0 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 ffs she should know how to deal with criticism, when she first came out she was coined the "weird girl"...that should've been indication of how she was going to be viewed and criticized for the years to follow. But I knew this era was gonna be messy ever since she tweeted those two words on august 12, 2013 Those two very scary words .... POP EMERGENCY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyMoonShine 0 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Um well, I dunno. Gaga's decisions are her own and I don't have a problem with any she has made even if they are not the one's I have made. Ofc If I don't like or agree with something I will say so but I stress I don't begrudge gaga her choices, she is amazing ofc. I agree that it's too negative here though, I think she can take criticism but there are actually people who drag her here badly, like as badly as the haters do. I wouldn't wan't to read that if I was in her place and I can see myself making a similar decision. Gaga doesn't wanna see herself, other artists, people or fans being b---hed about especially not on her forum. She has made that very clear so is this really surprising? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ricky 8,960 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I'm tired of seeing things like this.. Like there's no point at all in this.. If Gaga has been visiting very often, she would have noticed it by far long time already. And why are people so obsessed with the charts and releases.. I don't even know if I'm even a fan right now, but god, some of you are such whiny " fill it in urself " ... Jesus, I'm seriously getting tired of entering this forum and see 90% of redicilous threads and stupid trends.. And I have my friends here, which will not make me leave. "Beyonce releases album ,gets high sales " -> Gagadaily turns into a damn mess -> 303902890189x Beyonce threads " She slays, queen b " -> Gaga is managing this bad -> 230284190x ARTPOP vs TFM vs FM threads.. This forum really isn't going to change like it was in 2010/11 .. Wow, this is tremendous. This forum is a TRAGEDY at this point. Just beign clear. Crossfit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilla 13,346 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I see both sides. As an artist, constructive criticism is good if it comes off as respectful and actually constructive. Yelling how she's flopping and some of the rather ****ty opinions running rampant here are just downright unacceptable. It's no longer constructive, but deconstructive. At the same time however, she did read here because we are like her focus group. What do we like? How does the music make us feel? Stuff like that. You can't say that every opinion is hurtful, but she's closing off that criticism and to keep a healthy relationship with art, you need to be able to accept that everything you create isn't successful and what could you do to improve it. I agree with her on many things, but creative people need to be as open as possible and accept criticism and it looks like that's a weakness in her work. I mean I don't know it's not my place, but both sides are at fault. The fans for not realizing how deconstructive their comments are and her for not paying attention to the good criticism and maybe even embracing it. Doesn't make me love her any less though 𝙸'𝚖 𝚊 𝚓𝚘𝚛𝚝𝚜 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚓𝚎𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚜𝚑𝚘𝚎𝚜 𝚔𝚒𝚗𝚍 𝚘𝚏 𝚐𝚒𝚛𝚕. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 and almost the 95% of criticism here is related to her not being in the top 10. I feel this forum is becoming more and more like ATRL. Stanning is not healthy, being a fan is.. True tea! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeka 12,372 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I believe there is a difference in criticism (which not many of you guys can actually give besides as a listener) and complaining, which all of you do. There is also a difference in proposing ideas and imposing ideas. Both of which a lot of you do. Gaga is the artist. She is allowed to do whatever the f*uck she wants. Is it that hard to get it through your heads? Critics never truly critique anymore. They never say what could make it better. They just tell you what is the worst and best and expect you to go from there. It is ridiculous. Very few critics actually critique an album. And most of you are whiny little teenagers. Who run on hormones. I wouldn't trust career advice from you in a million years. Most of the rest of you are in your twenties, and few with heads on your shoulders. Gaga visited because she was happy to see happy people. Because one of the greatest feelings in life is making other people happy, even through art, one of the most selfish things in the world. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gia 39 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I see both sides. As an artist, constructive criticism is good if it comes off as respectful and actually constructive. Yelling how she's flopping and some of the rather ****ty opinions running rampant here are just downright unacceptable. It's no longer constructive, but deconstructive. At the same time however, she did read here because we are like her focus group. What do we like? How does the music make us feel? Stuff like that. You can't say that every opinion is hurtful, but she's closing off that criticism and to keep a healthy relationship with art, you need to be able to accept that everything you create isn't successful and what could you do to improve it. I agree with her on many things, but creative people need to be as open as possible and accept criticism and it looks like that's a weakness in her work. I mean I don't know it's not my place, but both sides are at fault. The fans for not realizing how deconstructive their comments are and her for not paying attention to the good criticism and maybe even embracing it. Doesn't make me love her any less though Thats exactly how I feel, thank you for putting it into words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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