US Charts Discussion

[ViviLittleM 3]

I don't understand why the team of Gaga hasn't spend to radio a new song of ARTPOP yet. Without songs on radios... there is nothing.

[Pure Adrenaline 1,518]

How so? Don't sales and charts reflect a song's popularity in the most efficient way, one way or another? MTN failed to enter the top 10 of any major music market while DWUW did. It even entered the top 3 in Canada. 

 

How so? Don't sales and charts reflect a song's popularity in the most efficient way, one way or another? MTN failed to enter the top 10 of any major music market while DWUW did. It even entered the top 3 in Canada. 

 

I think here u all missing the point .... like u said above BTW was the album that made Gaga from "it girl" to the "artist" And that why I think BTW was really importan choice inm her career Katy may be having #1 one after one but people will always choose to go and see Gaga perform not Katy ;) 

Since 2010 Interscope are promoting Gaga as brand that is performing artist not the girl u will isten everytime u turn on the radio and that why so yearly in her career Gaga was able to make almost full stadium tour WW 

 

And what is Katy doing with her #1's ...... she has to put her tickets for prices like $20 in order to sale arenas lol

idk about u guys but I will always choice having Gaga's floppage instead of having Katy's success

[NewYorkCity 10,536]

DWUW is so done. They have to make some move asap. 

 

I bobby we trust.

[Mariano 958]

I agree about the Media.  They are all over katy and Miley while Gaga is selling close to them and she is considered a flop. And I agree that Gaga needs hit, I never said she didn't ...  It's just that Gaga had EVERYTHING, while Katy had only number 1s (good album sales also but nothing Impressive) ..

Gaga is so big because of her Single Sales, Album Sales, Tour Gross and Media Attention (which was because of all 3 + Gaga's performances, outfits etc.. ) What Gaga was in 2009-2011 no one can compare apart from Britney and Madonna.

Adele is a different case but she also cannot be compared to Katy and Rihanna ...

Katy and Rihanna are just there all the time, being successful. Nothing extraordinary ..

[Mariano 958]

And I really agree with Monster,  Lady Gaga was never marketed / managed as a POP Girl that slays Radio and Charts.  She just had that success because at the time her material was the most popular, but if Gaga had the same management as Katy,  Telephone would've been a number 1 hit (they wouldn't have let it peak at number 3) , Paparazzi also,  TEOG also ...  They wouldn't have let Gaga release BTW on Friday and now she would've had the biggest first week ever, Judas would've debuted top 5 because they Wouldn't have let Gaga release it on Thursday (actually Judas wouldn't have existed but still )

[Mills 446]

I agree about the Media.  They are all over katy and Miley while Gaga is selling close to them and she is considered a flop. And I agree that Gaga needs hit, I never said she didn't ...  It's just that Gaga had EVERYTHING, while Katy had only number 1s (good album sales also but nothing Impressive) ..

Gaga is so big because of her Single Sales, Album Sales, Tour Gross and Media Attention (which was because of all 3 + Gaga's performances, outfits etc.. ) What Gaga was in 2009-2011 no one can compare apart from Britney and Madonna.

 

Those record sales played a heavy role on her tour receipts and overall media recognition. And it's the reason why I'm still strongly convinced that in order for anyone to sustain success, topping the charts or at least performing well chart-wise is still a must. Otherwise, the more heavily dependent one would be to the past, the harder to move forward. But yeah, I agree that Gaga was and still is the biggest pop star of the 21st century. I'd just want for her to sustain that (and strengthen her lead) by coming up with hits that are chart-toppers.  

[Pure Adrenaline 1,518]

I agree about the Media.  They are all over katy and Miley while Gaga is selling close to them and she is considered a flop. And I agree that Gaga needs hit, I never said she didn't ...  It's just that Gaga had EVERYTHING, while Katy had only number 1s (good album sales also but nothing Impressive) ..

Gaga is so big because of her Single Sales, Album Sales, Tour Gross and Media Attention (which was because of all 3 + Gaga's performances, outfits etc.. ) What Gaga was in 2009-2011 no one can compare apart from Britney and Madonna.

Adele is a different case but she also cannot be compared to Katy and Rihanna ...

Katy and Rihanna are just there all the time, being successful. Nothing extraordinary ..

 

And I really agree with Monster,  Lady Gaga was never marketed / managed as a POP Girl that slays Radio and Charts.  She just had that success because at the time her material was the most popular, but if Gaga had the same management as Katy,  Telephone would've been a number 1 hit (they wouldn't have let it peak at number 3) , Paparazzi also,  TEOG also ...  They wouldn't have let Gaga release BTW on Friday and now she would've had the biggest first week ever, Judas would've debuted top 5 because they Wouldn't have let Gaga release it on Thursday (actually Judas wouldn't have existed but still )

THIS and since the beginning Gaga played the weirdo which made her interesting for the GP, then later she become performance artist that u would wanna go and see live. 

 

Apart from Katy's #1 can u tell me something that she's more or better than her contemporaries ..... guess not

[Pure Adrenaline 1,518]

Those record sales played a heavy role on her tour receipts and overall media recognition. And it's the reason why I'm still strongly convinced that in order for anyone to sustain success, topping the charts or at least performing well chart-wise is still a must. Otherwise, the more heavily dependent one would be to the past, the harder to move forward. But yeah, I agree that Gaga was and still is the biggest pop star of the 21st century. I'd just want for her to sustain that (and strengthen her lead) by coming up with hits that are chart-toppers.  

well u are right yet wrong .... Carly, LMAFO, Fun all had at least 2 big hits that picked high on BB100 yet thet're no where to be found right now 

 

chart and media success is important but yet it's not everything, in order for someone to remain successfull he/she has to keep the public interested in him/her and show them that he/she could back up his/her success

[Mills 446]

THIS and since the beginning Gaga played the weirdo which made her interesting for the GP, then later she become performance artist that u would wanna go and see live. 

 

Apart from Katy's #1 can u tell me something that she's more or better than her contemporaries ..... guess not

Frankly, none for now. I just agreed with Luc's post in terms how consistent chart success generally would be way beneficial in the long run, as opposed to an inconsistent one.  

[Gypsy Life 118,907]

1. ONEREPUBLIC – Counting Stars: 191.923 (- 0.339)
2. PITBULL – Timber f/Ke$ha: 173.840 (- 0.429)
3. EMINEM – The Monster f/Rihanna: 170.976 (- 2.538)
4. KATY PERRY – Dark Horse: 124.830 (+ 3.814) â–²
5. LORDE – Royals: 121.335 (- 0.659) â–¼
6. ELLIE GOULDING – Burn: 120.895 (+ 1.234) â–²
7. AVICII – Wake Me Up: 119.451 (- 1.575) â–¼
8. PASSENGER – Let Her Go: 116.030 (+ 0.281)
9. IMAGINE DRAGONS – Demons: 113.917 (- 1.395)
10. LORDE – Team: 112.688 (+ 2.205) â–²

11. ONE DIRECTION – Story Of My Life: 111.814 (+ 0.765) â–¼
12. A GREAT BIG WORLD – Say Something w/C. Aguilera: 105.466 (+ 1.117)
13. ZEDD – Stay The Night f/H. Williams: 94.242 (- 1.096)
14. DRAKE – Hold On We’re, Going Home: 90.552 (- 0.718)
15. LADY GAGA – Do What U Want f/R. Kelly: 83.986 (- 1.989)
16. BASTILLE – Pompeii: 83.371 (+ 1.051)
17. BEYONCÉ – Drunk In Love f/Jay Z: 74.395 (+ 1.254)
18. KATY PERRY – Roar: 71.619 (- 0.603)
19. NEIGHBOURHOOD – Sweater Weather: 70.496 (- 0.952)
20. KID INK – Show Me f/Chris Brown: 68.755 (+ 1.436)

 

LUKE BRYAN – Drink A Beer: 65.965 (+ 0.558)

DAVID NAIL – Whatever She’s Got: 65.761 (+ 0.797)
COLE SWINDELL – Chillin’ It: 63.251 (+ 0.150)
ERIC PASLAY – Friday Night: 60.964 (+ 0.644)
JASON ALDEAN – When She Says Baby: 55.276 (+ 0.839)
AMERICAN AUTHORS – Best Day Of My Life: 51.364 (+ 0.240)
LADY ANTEBELLUM – Compass: 49.988 (+ 1.280)
BRUNO MARS – Young Girls: 47.834 (+ 1.285)
CASSADEE POPE – Wasting All These Tears: 47.723 (- 0.034)
JOHN NEWMAN – Love Me Again: 47.490 (+ 0.552)
JASON DERULO – Talk Dirty f/2 Chainz: 46.520 (+ 2.474)

BEYONCE – XO: 37.125 (- 0.656)
BLAKE SHELTON – Doin’ What She Likes: 35.201 (+ 1.289)
CALVIN HARRIS – Thinking About You: 27.709 (- 0.171)
FRAY – Love Don’t Die: 27.310 (+ 0.479)
MILEY CYRUS – Adore You: 26.668 (+ 0.674)
PHARRELL WILLIAMS – Happy: 26.058 (+ 3.013)
DEMI LOVATO – Neon Lights: 22.881 (+ 0.369)
SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA – Can’t Remember To Forget You: 18.583 (+ 1.435)
AVICII – Hey Brother: 18.550 (+ 0.228)
CHRIS BROWN – Loyal f/Lil’ Wayne: 17.351 (+ 0.494)
ALOE BLACC – The Man: 11.586 (+ 1.791)
FOSTER THE PEOPLE – Coming Of Age: 7.965 (+ 0.284)
NEON TREES – Sleeping With A Friend: 6.196 (+ 0.510)
DJ SNAKE & LIL JON – Turn Down For What: 6.064 (+ 0.218)
IMAGINE DRAGONS – On Top Of The World: 5.838 (+ 0.057)
NAUGHTY BOY – La La La f/Sam Smith: 3.385 (+ 0.280)
DISCLOSURE – Latch f/Sam Smith: 1.933 (+ 0.547)
BRITNEY SPEARS – Now That I Found You: 0.096 (+ 0.006)
LADY GAGA – Gypsy: 0.008 (=)

[Creyk 17,821]

Apart from Katy's #1 can u tell me something that she's more or better than her contemporaries ..... guess not

boobs

(but seriously they help her out so much)

[Paper Gangsta 6,693]

1. ONEREPUBLIC – Counting Stars: 191.923 (- 0.339)

2. PITBULL – Timber f/Ke$ha: 173.840 (- 0.429)

3. EMINEM – The Monster f/Rihanna: 170.976 (- 2.538)

4. KATY PERRY – Dark Horse: 124.830 (+ 3.814) â–²

5. LORDE – Royals: 121.335 (- 0.659) â–¼

6. ELLIE GOULDING – Burn: 120.895 (+ 1.234) â–²

7. AVICII – Wake Me Up: 119.451 (- 1.575) â–¼

8. PASSENGER – Let Her Go: 116.030 (+ 0.281)

9. IMAGINE DRAGONS – Demons: 113.917 (- 1.395)

10. LORDE – Team: 112.688 (+ 2.205) â–²

11. ONE DIRECTION – Story Of My Life: 111.814 (+ 0.765) â–¼

12. A GREAT BIG WORLD – Say Something w/C. Aguilera: 105.466 (+ 1.117)

13. ZEDD – Stay The Night f/H. Williams: 94.242 (- 1.096)

14. DRAKE – Hold On We’re, Going Home: 90.552 (- 0.718)

15. LADY GAGA – Do What U Want f/R. Kelly: 83.986 (- 1.989)

16. BASTILLE – Pompeii: 83.371 (+ 1.051)

17. BEYONCÉ – Drunk In Love f/Jay Z: 74.395 (+ 1.254)

18. KATY PERRY – Roar: 71.619 (- 0.603)

19. NEIGHBOURHOOD – Sweater Weather: 70.496 (- 0.952)

20. KID INK – Show Me f/Chris Brown: 68.755 (+ 1.436)

 

LUKE BRYAN – Drink A Beer: 65.965 (+ 0.558)

DAVID NAIL – Whatever She’s Got: 65.761 (+ 0.797)

COLE SWINDELL – Chillin’ It: 63.251 (+ 0.150)

ERIC PASLAY – Friday Night: 60.964 (+ 0.644)

JASON ALDEAN – When She Says Baby: 55.276 (+ 0.839)

AMERICAN AUTHORS – Best Day Of My Life: 51.364 (+ 0.240)

LADY ANTEBELLUM – Compass: 49.988 (+ 1.280)

BRUNO MARS – Young Girls: 47.834 (+ 1.285)

CASSADEE POPE – Wasting All These Tears: 47.723 (- 0.034)

JOHN NEWMAN – Love Me Again: 47.490 (+ 0.552)

JASON DERULO – Talk Dirty f/2 Chainz: 46.520 (+ 2.474)

BEYONCE – XO: 37.125 (- 0.656)

BLAKE SHELTON – Doin’ What She Likes: 35.201 (+ 1.289)

CALVIN HARRIS – Thinking About You: 27.709 (- 0.171)

FRAY – Love Don’t Die: 27.310 (+ 0.479)

MILEY CYRUS – Adore You: 26.668 (+ 0.674)

PHARRELL WILLIAMS – Happy: 26.058 (+ 3.013)

DEMI LOVATO – Neon Lights: 22.881 (+ 0.369)

SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA – Can’t Remember To Forget You: 18.583 (+ 1.435)

AVICII – Hey Brother: 18.550 (+ 0.228)

CHRIS BROWN – Loyal f/Lil’ Wayne: 17.351 (+ 0.494)

ALOE BLACC – The Man: 11.586 (+ 1.791)

FOSTER THE PEOPLE – Coming Of Age: 7.965 (+ 0.284)

NEON TREES – Sleeping With A Friend: 6.196 (+ 0.510)

DJ SNAKE & LIL JON – Turn Down For What: 6.064 (+ 0.218)

IMAGINE DRAGONS – On Top Of The World: 5.838 (+ 0.057)

NAUGHTY BOY – La La La f/Sam Smith: 3.385 (+ 0.280)

DISCLOSURE – Latch f/Sam Smith: 1.933 (+ 0.547)

BRITNEY SPEARS – Now That I Found You: 0.096 (+ 0.006)

LADY GAGA – Gypsy: 0.008 (=)

Where do you get Gypsy info?

[Gypsy Life 118,907]

Where do you get Gypsy info?

 

This is the list published by Mediabase, not mine. 

[Bye 3,947]

How so? Don't sales and charts reflect a song's popularity in the most efficient way, one way or another? MTN failed to enter the top 10 of any major music market while DWUW did. It even entered the top 3 in Canada.

It could be due to people's interest. During 2011 people were getting tired of Gaga but she still had that presence, MTN was performed everywhere and especially in Europe due to EMAs. And video is of paramount importance, it gets played on music stations and I don't know about other continents but in many places I've visited in Europe many people leave their TVs on music stations. MTN had more exposure and ( here comes an anecdotal evidence so take it with a grain of salt) the people I know can definitely remember MTN while most don't even know of DWUW. And so it's not much of a stretch to think this situation happens in other more important countries.

[Mills 446]

well u are right yet wrong .... Carly, LMAFO, Fun all had at least 2 big hits that picked high on BB100 yet thet're no where to be found right now 

 

chart and media success is important but yet it's not everything, in order for someone to remain successfull he/she has to keep the public interested in him/her and show them that he/she could back up his/her success

Exactly, it's not everything. But generally speaking, a commercial success starts everything in any kind of business. I just find sustaining equally important as to achieving if we're into the long run. 

 

As for the artists you've mentioned, most of them have unfortunately fell flat to transcend their success beyond their breakthrough albums and/or singles. Something Gaga and her contemporaries from Katy to Bruno to even Justin Bieber have successfully done, and hence they're considered as a more successful act than others. They're able to sustain their success by coming with follow-up hits and expanding their discography in the process.