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funny thing about the interview, how she talks about the defjam thing "its amazing" "im a fighter" .. and when she released MTN her interviews about that were so dark and deep lol

Maybe she's finally gotten over it?

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How are the fans let along the GP supposed to understand all the hidden and sometimes obscure meanings behind the songs when it really needs her to explain them in detail.

One of the biggest complaints about Gaga is that her music simply doesn't connect with people anymore and this showed why.

 

I much prefer an album that is personal to the artist and that takes a little digging to understand than generic pop songs that are only surface deep.  And actually I think that most of Gaga's song on ARTPOP work quite well even if you aren't digging too deep.

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At the end of her Sexxx Dream, does she say when she meets the object of her s-x dream, that she is embarrassed about meeting her (or whatever) NOT that she wants to "EAT HER!" or maybe I'm a pervert?
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I much prefer an album that is personal to the artist and that takes a little digging to understand than generic pop songs that are only surface deep.  And actually I think that most of Gaga's song on ARTPOP work quite well even if you aren't digging too deep.

I don't disagree with you but the point I'm making is that the album has been panned by the critics --- largely because they don't understand it --- ignored by the GP because they can't connect with it ---- maybe because they simply don't what their pop music to be so deep -- and sales are fairly average.

Whatever message she is trying to get across seems to be getting lost the way she is doing it

Doing this commentary is great but it's too late to save the album. Maybe she is just getting to deep for Pop

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OMG at DWUW being written on her flight to Milan, my city

Electric Chapel was finished in Milan too iirc Italy, ha impact :legend:

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Katie14

I find it so interesting that Gaga says her articulation was affected by marijuana last year, and her general demeanour was a bit distant and not "all there", because that's exactly what I thought around the time of the FAME promo. I didn't know it was a result of weed, but I noticed she was different. This also coincides with her lip injections and those strange MonsterVision videos she posted. I wish we could go back in time and talk to her about it. :(

 

I found this interesting too. I always wonder what is going on behind the scenes when she doesn't act herself in interviews. I bet a lot of the time it is just her being tired and overworked but sometimes there really is something deeper. 

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This was very interesting and quite enlightening. It's great understanding the thought process behind the songs. But it also highlights the problem with the album.

How are the fans let along the GP supposed to understand all the hidden and sometimes obscure meanings behind the songs when it really needs her to explain them in detail.

One of the biggest complaints about Gaga is that her music simply doesn't connect with people anymore and this showed why.

It's a bit like telling a joke. If you have to explain it then it hasn't worked.

 

Her explanations here fit pretty well with my own interpretations, so at least its possible for the ideas to get across without her explaining them. Her music will never connect with all people, but that's true of any music.

 

The basic overall theme, of different adrenaline highs, could be seen by anyone who looked at what most of the songs have in common. Even if they wouldn't choose exactly the same words to express that idea as she did.

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hell0samuel

wasnt this released ages ago? why is suddenly being released again?! ive had it since like album release.....

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imasugarush

 

 

Maybe she's finally gotten over it?

@ ManuelMonsterr

Yeah I had the same observation lol, she says "it's amazing" with such unwavering joy and pleasure, there's no sign of residual sadness at all, like less than she has now lol.

I wonder if MTN is simply looking back with poetic interpretation, or trying to convey a message of perseverance to her fans [since BTW is mainly about overcoming adversity right?), or that MTN was written from personal trouble she was going through at the time that we don't know about.. and that the video is just a vehicle.. and she chose her drop from def jam [which we all know about] to have as a backdrop for the song. But who knows

@SevaGaGa

ManuelMonsterr's observation implies the exact opposite.. how does being happy then and dark now imply getting over it.

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I don't disagree with you but the point I'm making is that the album has been panned by the critics --- largely because they don't understand it --- ignored by the GP because they can't connect with it ---- maybe because they simply don't what their pop music to be so deep -- and sales are fairly average.

Whatever message she is trying to get across seems to be getting lost the way she is doing it

Doing this commentary is great but it's too late to save the album. Maybe she is just getting to deep for Pop

 

If you look at her contemporaries- Katy, Beyonce, Rihanna, Britney etc.. (even Adele) -they all fit into a digestible mold for the public to swallow. This has nothing to do with talent, it's just that Gaga is the only majorly famous star going over people's heads and defying the boundaries she's "supposed" to be in- and this probably pisses a lot of people off. 

 

The second thing, like you kind of mention, is that she doesn't seem too concerned over how the general public understands her music anyways- you have to actually be a fan and have the commitment to see all the videos/performances/interviews to understand the messages fully. In a way, this makes our relationship with her more exclusive but it also cuts a lot of people off from understanding her. Unfortunately, I think if she wants critical acclaim she would have to turn this around and make sure the music can stand on its own. Because in the end, no critic is going to look at your music in conjunction with your videos and performances- they'll just look at the album by itself.

 

I done rambling now. 

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@ ManuelMonsterr

Yeah I had the same observation lol, she says "it's amazing" with such unwavering joy and pleasure, there's no sign of residual sadness at all, like less than she has now lol.

I wonder if MTN is simply looking back with poetic interpretation, or trying to convey a message of perseverance to her fans [since BTW is mainly about overcoming adversity right?), or that MTN was written from personal trouble she was going through at the time that we don't know about.. and that the video is just a vehicle.. and she chose her drop from def jam [which we all know about] to have as a backdrop for the song. But who knows

 

 

I wonder about this as well. I definitely think that sometimes she hones in on certain experiences and exaggerates because she doesn't want to talk about what is truly traumatizing to her. For example, when Gaga talked about being bullied in high school during the BTW era and how awful that was I kind of think she is really talking about being s-xually abused at the beginning of her career. I think she just wasn't ready to come out about that at the time. I don't think she was lying about being bullied I just couldn't help but think that something far worse than being bullied as a teenager happened to her based on the way that she acts and how she was saying that the experiences still deeply affect her. I'm not saying that bullying can't be deeply traumatizing I just always got the impression that Gaga was using being bullied as a front and really talking about something else. 

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Unfortunately, I think if she wants critical acclaim she would have to turn this around and make sure the music can stand on its own. Because in the end, no critic is going to look at your music in conjunction with your videos and performances- they'll just look at the album by itself.

 

That's not quite true. Plenty of critics mentions those things, just usually negatively and with unquestioned incredulity that any of it could be meaningful.

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imasugarush

I wonder about this as well. I definitely think that sometimes she hones in on certain experiences and exaggerates because she doesn't want to talk about what is truly traumatizing to her. For example, when Gaga talked about being bullied in high school during the BTW era and how awful that was I kind of think she is really talking about being s-xually abused at the beginning of her career. I think she just wasn't ready to come out about that at the time. 

Personally I think the whole bullying experiences she talked about was more about so she was relatable at that time - BTW is all about persevering through being stigmatized - so she shared that part of her so people could be like oh.. she made it through.. I can too. And probably so people could except her preaching and message about bullying if she shared her own experience with it.

 

If you go back to her TRL You and I interview, she says that the ice cream scene in the beginning of You and I is a reference to traumatic experiences she faced - on what I assume is the s-xual abuse in her music career or younger even - but she says that she'll likely never discuss what she went through publicly...

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