Quark 7,085 Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 Once again, you are correct in that urban dance helped the popularity of electronic dance. But In this thread I am asking about who made it mainstream, not about who invented the music or who helped. Kind of like with the Beatles. They did not invent rock music, their were several artist that were already transitioning form rock & roll to pure rock. But the Beatles truly made rock mainstream. So your urband dance is kind of like rock & roll because they were both transitions to a different kind of music but those transitions weren't what made rock and electronic dance truly mainstream. They only helped. the electronic sound in dance-pop didn't become popular till the late 2000's yes. but the urben-dance sound is what made that more popular on the charts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Introvert 0 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 yeah, britney spears always mixed electronic and urban songs on her albums. timbaland and justin timberlake was doing that sound in 2006. kanye west and ne-yo were the first to have those beats on their songs on the charts. until eventually the black eyed peas would go pure techno and lady gaga went with the synth pop 80's sound in her songs. even rihanna had a couple chosen dance songs. the music timbaland created sounded much different than the edm that became popular in 2010-onwards. he had an urban dance sound, britney had an urban dance sound. but what i see you saying is that edm became popular because of them. huge music trends open a doorway to other huge music trends. sure. but in my opinion edm got as huge as it did as a counter to timbaland and urban dominating throughout the 2000's. its because of urban getting tired that edm blew up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 david gaga bep yes madonna with confessions? okay. sure. but kylie definitely moreso than she imo because i think with confessions madonna took a bite out of kylie aesthetically. kylie's 1-555-confide for confide in me which not so surprisingly sounds like it could've fit on madonnas record. but this could be considered picking hairs im just saying, confessions wasn't groundbreaking or anything. Lets organize it Kylie did in early 2000s with Fever and Light Years. Madonna did in mid 2000s with confessions,which by the way is considered one of EDM's best work to date by many reviews. Gaga/BEP in late 2000s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Introvert 0 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Lets organize it Kylie did in early 2000s with Fever and Light Years. Madonna did in mid 2000s with confessions,which by the way is considered one of EDM's best work to date by many reviews. Gaga/BEP in late 2000s. kylies been electronic since the early 90s btw, but considering that she wasnt in fact a factor here in the u.s. until the early 2000s i can let that slide its not considered one of edm's best work to date wtf its considered a good pop record and its definitely modern-day madonna's best imo. but it also just reflected the time at which it came out. there was a boom in modern british and new wave music. confessions was just apart of that landscape Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel 3 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 anyone saying britney's blackout is misinformed, thanks to gay guys on pop forums. blackout was one of britneys best for sure but it wasnt influential. the entire album is very urban and almost sounds like it was produced by timbaland because some of his right hand men helped produce it (but not actually tim himself). it was a variation of the timbaland riddled mainstream pop landscape the year it was released and the year following. and circus was just a totally watered down neutered version of that 2 years later. Kylie Minogue Impossible Princess 97' As much as I love Blackout I agree, there's no innovation there. Just a great Britney album with an urban influence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klou 2,414 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Once again, you are correct in that urban dance helped the popularity of electronic dance. But In this thread I am asking about who made it mainstream, not about who invented the music or who helped. Kind of like with the Beatles. They did not invent rock music, their were several artist that were already transitioning form rock & roll to pure rock. But the Beatles truly made rock mainstream. So your urband dance is kind of like rock & roll because they were both transitions to a different kind of music but those transitions weren't what made rock and electronic dance truly mainstream. They only helped. I don't know why people are having such a hard time understanding your question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 kylies been electronic since the early 90s btw its not considered one of edm's best work to date wtf its considered a good pop record and definitely one of modern-day madonna's best imo. but it also sort of reflected the time at which it came out. there was a boom in modern british and new wave music. confessions was just apart of that landscape Modern British... Madonna's work had the most worldwide appeal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Introvert 0 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 As much as I love Blackout I agree, there's no innovation there. Just a great Britney album with an urban influence. exactly. i think it was totally progressive for britney herself. it was the peak of her urban/dance aesthetic and thats why its rightly considered her best. but i dont think it perpetuated much of anything because it was just a well made reflection of the time at which it was released. it didnt look ahead, it fit perfectly where it was. Modern British... Madonna's work had the most worldwide appeal. i was referring to the british invasion of the mid 2000s in alternative and dance music. there was a boom here in the united states of british inspired and new wave music. confessions was just apart of that landscape. even kelly osbourne made an album like that that year. thats how current it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Gump 1 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 As much as I love Blackout I agree, there's no innovation there. Just a great Britney album with an urban influence. freakshow and dubstep? she was the first to dabble in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Introvert 0 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 freakshow and dubstep? she was the first to dabble in it. what considered dubstep has been used in electro music for a long time. britney may have dabbled in it in 2 tracks but it didnt make the album forward thinking. overall it fit perfectly where it was, it didnt really look ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ryan 1,468 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 It was not popular. It became infused with pop though and the only one who actually did electornic dance music on the poll is Cascada. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 exactly. i think it was totally progressive for britney herself. it was the peak of her urban/dance aesthetic and thats why its rightly considered her best. but i dont think it perpetuated much of anything because it was just a well made reflection of the time at which it was released. it didnt look ahead, it fit perfectly where it was. i was referring to the british invasion of the mid 2000s in alternative and dance music. there was a boom here in the united states of british inspired and new wave music. confessions was just apart of that landscape. even kelly osbourne made an album like that that year. thats how current it was. But Confessions was the album that truly took it worldwide,It defined the meaning of worldwide,Its even acknowledged in guinness world records. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel 3 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 freakshow and dubstep? she was the first to dabble in it. Freakshow? Dubstep? ... exactly. i think it was totally progressive for britney herself. it was the peak of her urban/dance aesthetic and thats why its rightly considered her best. but i dont think it perpetuated much of anything because it was just a well made reflection of the time at which it was released. it didnt look ahead, it fit perfectly where it was. Yeah, you've hit the nail on the head with that. It sounds like an album that was released in 2007. But it's great none the less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Introvert 0 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 But Confessions was the album that made it worldwide,It defined the meaning of worldwide,Its even acknowledged in guinness world records. confessions didnt make that trend worldwide. there was an onslaught of british alt bands that created this whole movement in the industry and meanwhile electroclash and electronica had been the major underground genre and it started popping out because of super mainstream bands like the killers and the bravery and gwen stefanis solo record love. angel. music. baby. confessions is one of my favorite madonna albums dont get me wrong, but it did not set the trend. it was a really well made pop album that was apart of the trend. an example of madonna doing whats popular really ****ing well, as opposed to mediocre like with hard candy and mdna. im gonna sound like a dick saying this but you were like 7 when confessions came out. i may have been only 14 and starting high school but i was old enough to acknowledge what was going on in pop culture at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Man 9,245 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 "Ne-Yo's song Closer brought dance-pop back to the US charts, essentially paving the way for Lady Gaga's entire career. Lady Gaga probably wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for Ne-Yo", said by someone on artl. "A little less conversation and a little more touch my body." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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