Kathy Griffin about dating a 22 year-old

[CHIPCHROME 705]

1 hour ago, AsleepOnTheCeiling said:

The median age for college graduates is 23. When adjusting the median age of people to move out for those that move back in with their parents it's 25-27. 

 

There's a reason that divorce rates start to drop after 25. And there's a reason you actively seek to dismiss the developmental psychology behind it all. You can do a lot of things at age 22, and it doesn't mean that you should do them. Part of life is making those mistakes and learning from them. And thats in a sense taken away when your partner has a wild age gap. That guidance does create an opportunity for the older person to take advantage of you. You can acknowledge that 22 is an adult and treat them as such while also acknowledging that the 65 year old has seen a LOT more in life. The 22 year old might be starting their career, the 65 year old is retiring from theirs after 40 years of work. The 22 year old in a lot of cases is starting to have their first relationship with the dynamics of adult life in play, while the 65 year old has on average had at least 1 divorce. 

 

We're not talking about the autonomy of a 22 year old as an individual, we're talking about a 22 year old within a dynamic with someone that has had decades more life experience and that context matters.

Decades more experience* millions of more dollars* and a swathe of western entertainment culture that seeks to perpetuate the abuse!

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5 minutes ago, CHIPCHROME said:

Once you realize you’re projecting your own trauma onto others by forcefully desensitizing everyone to it, you’ll regret such a gross comment.

Go blow it out your ditty bag. 

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10 hours ago, CHIPCHROME said:

22 year olds can’t

purchase insurance

rent a car

book a hotel

 

and plenty of other things. It’s well known the human brain isn’t done developing until around 25. But even besides that fact- any person more than double digits the senior of their partner is always going to be looked at in that manner, rightfully so. It’s predatory, regardless of gender. I feel like a lot of the people saying good for her in this thread are the same people throwing up and making jokes about Leo decap’s  25 year old girlfriend of the year. Like, do you not see the hypocrisy? Lol

Tbh, in such a relationship, the senior is the vulnerable one 

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23 hours ago, CHIPCHROME said:

Regardless it’s not unwelcome for people to question the motives of such a monster. She’s just as Epstein coded as the rest. Who cares. She just looks sad honestly trying to forcefully make it a big deal in order to normalize more age-gap taboo in the world. It’s DISGUSTING. Regardless of gender. Especially in instances of power like so. But who am I!

this being categorically not true in any way at all lol 

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21 hours ago, Future Lovers said:

If you're not allowed to date until you've "figured it out" then nobody is allowed to date ever.

When the hell did they say that?

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I mean, at 22 people know what they are doing. I was seeing wayyy older men than me when I was that age, and I don't think there was anything wrong with that. Two consenting adults. 

If he were 18, 19, I think that is a slight problem. Older men/women dating people those age is a bit "Hmm?" technically legal, but weird. 

[AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,912]

42 minutes ago, Nenifir said:

I mean, at 22 people know what they are doing. I was seeing wayyy older men than me when I was that age, and I don't think there was anything wrong with that. Two consenting adults. 

If he were 18, 19, I think that is a slight problem. Older men/women dating people those age is a bit "Hmm?" technically legal, but weird. 

The thing for me is still stage of life. Obviously they're not kids that will be outright groomed. But that doesn't mean they're not vulnerable in certain ways. 22 year olds often are still in a huge transition phase in many aspects of life. From moving for their first jobs in their career to buying their first car with "grown people money" to fully renting by themselves outside of dorm life or finding new groups of friends or hobbies. They can still make those decisions independently because they're adults, but what they look for in a relationship isn't necessarily what they'll look for in a relationship 2-5 years down the line as things stabilize. And obviously those things can happen to older people as well but they've generally experienced those things before and know how to handle them. I just don't really see the need for those things to be experienced with somebody 40 years their senior who can influence outcomes and possibly make the younger person emotionally or financially dependent on them in a way that will lead them to be trapped or manipulated. And I seriously question the older people who search for those things in a relationship that a 22 year old can generally give. There will obviously be exceptions but they're rare. And I think this for men and women, I think the general consensus on the site on DiCaprio for example was that it's weird. 

[Future Lovers 7,488]

I know 22 year olds that are on their second child. Let's stop making blanket generalizations about how people handle that age.

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7 hours ago, AsleepOnTheCeiling said:

they're not vulnerable in certain ways.

Ns, but isn’t everyone? You could even argue that older folks getting in relationships with younger people are potentially more vulnerable because of the desperation to keep someone younger interested. I mean, you think a younger model dating an older guy doesn’t realize they have power? I get the premise of these kinds of convos, but I think the answer should be that people should try to be mindful of their own and others vulnerabilities, not that we should be trying to categorically police certain types of relationships or set overly broad rules about them.

Edited 6 hours ago by Ladle Ghoulash

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Somewhat OT, but: I do think a solid cohort of people online (not necessarily on this thread specifically) have borderline debilitating moral OCD.