Madonna reposts AI-generated images of herself and Lady Gaga

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3 hours ago, MountainMonster said:

You used ChatGPT to write that response. 

You’re weird and yes generative AI is theft “””art”””

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1 hour ago, Junko Enoshima said:

You’re weird and yes generative AI is theft “””art”””

It's such a karma is a bitch kind of thing that the generation who downloaded music and movies illegally for many years, now understands very well how destructive it is when something is stealing their own art.

And the truth is, the majority still downloads music and watches illegally. like ya'll just hoarded illegally all the stems of Mayhem lol

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4 hours ago, River said:

It's such a karma is a bitch kind of thing that the generation who downloaded music and movies illegally for many years, now understands very well how destructive it is when something is stealing their own art.

And the truth is, the majority still downloads music and watches illegally. like ya'll just hoarded illegally all the stems of Mayhem lol

Classic two wrongs don’t make a right scenario, tbh. Not to mention that the *scale* at which AI steals and regurgitates, not just art, but also basically any other intellectual content/property created by humans for the profit of a handful of billionaires absolutely dwarfs the net negative impact of piracy. 

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9 hours ago, bxr said:

“Not sure what it means, but this photo …”

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It’s hard to pick a favorite, but what other scenes will you remember?

I love the two scenes in the Last Supper. They are just really beautiful, really resonant. The one where Miranda accuses Andy of betraying her is just so wonderfully dramatic. And then the dinner scene where Benjy — this character that you think is kind of a whack job billionaire — delivers really the most profound speech in the movie about the future and how it’ll come for us all. Miranda’s there, making a plea for the human touch and preserving the best of human achievement. That scene is, obviously, what the movie is all about: this battle between man-made creativity and whatever is coming next; we don’t know what it is, but we’re terrified of it, and we know it’s coming for us.

Tell me about shooting with that incredible tableau in the background.

We scouted the actual Da Vinci Museum, and we could have shot the one scene with people talking in front of the painting. They would have been fine with that. I said, “Can we do a dinner with candlelight?” and they said, “No, absolutely not.” So, we built a set.

But I got to spend a lot of time in the room with the real Last Supper and learn a lot about it. It’s amazing; you’re standing there with a 600-year-old painting that still moves you. There’s no better way to dramatize the best of human achievement than that painting.

And having that painting really underscores what Miranda’s saying to Andy. She’s asking, “Are you Judas?”

There’s definitely that undertone.

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Looks like Audrey plaza

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6 hours ago, River said:

It's such a karma is a bitch kind of thing that the generation who downloaded music and movies illegally for many years, now understands very well how destructive it is when something is stealing their own art.

And the truth is, the majority still downloads music and watches illegally. like ya'll just hoarded illegally all the stems of Mayhem lol

that's not even remotely the same?

people don't torrent movies and music to create their own movies and music to sell off as their own

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[River 127,445]

1 hour ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Classic two wrongs don’t make a right scenario, tbh. Not to mention that the *scale* at which AI steals and regurgitates, not just art, but also basically any other intellectual content/property created by humans for the profit of a handful of billionaires absolutely dwarfs the net negative impact of piracy. 

the scale of piracy was pretty devastating and in par of AI, and let's not pretend that it only harmed the billionaires, even indie artists suffered from this, many employees were fired through the years, labels went bankrupt.. and the main reason for the raise of concert prices and the amount of merch junk is the consequence of piracy.

Video games still suffers from piracy and many studios shut down, many developers are fired every month, the prices were raised to $70 per AAA and third party video game, it's still devastating.

 

We either respect the property of everyone, or we let the jungle stay wild. 

It's the same game, just a different ball.

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5 minutes ago, nATAH said:

that's not even remotely the same?

people don't torrent movies and music to create their own movies and music to sell off as their own

They don't? every flee market was full of random complications with random songs burnt into a cd with a fake assed cover made in Paint.

The unofficial albums market was active like crazy, it was so easy to buy a fake album for $10.

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26 minutes ago, River said:

the scale of piracy was pretty devastating and in par of AI, and let's not pretend that it only harmed the billionaires, even indie artists suffered from this, many employees were fired through the years, labels went bankrupt.. and the main reason for the raise of concert prices and the amount of merch junk is the consequence of piracy.

Video games still suffers from piracy and many studios shut down, many developers are fired every month, the prices were raised to $70 per AAA and third party video game, it's still devastating.

 

We either respect the property of everyone, or we let the jungle stay wild. 

It's the same game, just a different ball.

Definitely not even remotely on par with AI, given that AI could be poised to trigger mass unemployment (something that we would’ve never seen even at the height of piracy). But to the jungle comment, that basically circles back to my “two wrongs don’t make a right” comment, no?

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34 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

And the net impact of that would still pale in comparison to the net impact of the way AI exploits human intellectual property/content. The pirated market reselling an unofficial copies of albums couldn’t even remotely approach the potential labor displacement from using AI (which was trained off of human labor which many didn’t consent to the usage of and were not compensated for). One was a headache for one industry, the other spells mass unemployment due to a machine stealing and regurgitating other people’s work. 

 

32 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Definitely not even remotely on par with AI, given that AI could be poised to trigger mass unemployment (something that we would’ve never seen even at the height of piracy). But to the jungle comment, that basically circles back to my “two wrongs don’t make a right” comment, no?

sure yeah, it's horrible and all but first, my original post was about the "stealing art" issue, a criticism to the people who steals but don't want their property to be stolen.

so second, as long as you still have a folder full of stolen songs, your crying out loud about art or jobs of people is irrelevant, because you are part of the problem imo

At the end, we are the consumers, we are the employees, we are using piracy, we are using AI, so all the talks about the big picture is a nonsense to me when we will always be the problem.

We talk about billionaires, but we made them.

We are talking about people losing their jobs because of AI? but we are still using AI, it doesn't have to a generative one, if you are using it just for information. u feed the monster.

 

My solution is the best, you can opt in and opt out from giving consent to AI to use your craft.

Because beating this horse is not going to kill AI, especially when the entertainment industry starts to adopt this idea.

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7 hours ago, River said:

It's such a karma is a bitch kind of thing that the generation who downloaded music and movies illegally for many years, now understands very well how destructive it is when something is stealing their own art.

And the truth is, the majority still downloads music and watches illegally. like ya'll just hoarded illegally all the stems of Mayhem lol

Oh please, as if you haven’t done it before. I listen to music on Youtube and I always search for official uploads. If they’re not available, I search where the songs are available in so I can support the artist. And most, if not all of the music I listen to is produced by indie artists themselves that most of the time also provide free download links for mp3 or wav files. 

With unreleased songs (I only listen to some Gaga unreleased songs), if she’s not willing to release and make profit of it, then what’s the issue? It’s not like she’ll go bankrupt just because I played a 16 year old upload on Youtube.

As for stems, I don’t think anyone uses them to profit off of them or anything like that? I always check and appreciate the production and all of the tracks, then delete the zip because, honestly, it’s a waste of space unless for archiving purposes. I have a USB drive full of stems of songs I like provided by the artists, so yeah I don’t know what to tell you?? I have all of Gaga’s albums in CD format, some others in vinyl… so does this really count as stealing? Obviously I don’t own the tracks rights by just owning the CDs, I know that.

I have never pirated a movie, nor a show or anything like that. I’ve always been scared of doing it. If it’s not available on streaming platforms, I can buy it in DVD format because I have my own money. If I can’t even find it like that, it’s not worth the time lmfao.

Two wrongs don’t make a right. What these companies are doing is disgusting, and in this case, independent artists and minorities are the ones being most affected, not mainstream media that has made millions or even more.

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1 minute ago, Junko Enoshima said:

Oh please, as if you haven’t done it before. I listen to music on Youtube and I always search for official uploads. If they’re not available, I search where the songs are available in so I can support the artist. And most, if not all of the music I listen to is produced by indie artists themselves that most of the time also provide free download links for mp3 or wav files. 

With unreleased songs (I only listen to some Gaga unreleased songs), if she’s not willing to release and make profit of it, then what’s the issue? It’s not like she’ll go bankrupt just because I played a 16 year old upload on Youtube.

As for stems, I don’t think anyone uses them to profit off of them or anything like that? I always check and appreciate the production and all of the tracks, then delete the zip because, honestly, it’s a waste of space unless for archiving purposes. I have a USB drive full of stems of songs I like provided by the artists, so yeah I don’t know what to tell you?? I have all of Gaga’s albums in CD format, some others in vinyl… so does this really count as stealing? Obviously I don’t own the tracks rights by just owning the CDs, I know that.

I have never pirated a movie, nor a show or anything like that. I’ve always been scared of doing it. If it’s not available on streaming platforms, I can buy it in DVD format because I have my own money. If I can’t even find it like that, it’s not worth the time lmfao.

Two wrongs don’t make a right. What these companies are doing is disgusting, and in this case, independent artists and minorities are the ones being most affected, not mainstream media that has made millions or even more.

I never said I've never done it before.

I'm not pretending to be ethical, I'm not.

But I like to point out hypocrisy and make you people go insane over it, because the truth hurts   

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1 minute ago, River said:

your crying out loud about art or jobs of people is irrelevant, because you are part of the problem imo

Not on the same scale, tbh. That would be like saying people who drive cars running on fossil fuels can’t be angry about multinational corporations contributing the overwhelming majority of greenhouse gas emissions while also trying to prevent the implementation of green energy. Same with AI: AI isn’t run a series of small scale individual actors, it’s a coalition of multibillionaires essentially trying to use a technological innovation to corner the market on intellectual property/content.

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1 minute ago, River said:

I'm not pretending to be ethical, I'm not.

But I like to point out hypocrisy and make you people go insane over it, because the truth hurts

Eh, you don’t have to be morally perfect to recognize something as wrong, tbh. Obviously it’s better not to be a hypocrite, but if moral perfection were required to comment on or try to change anything, no one would be able to do any good at all because no one is entirely ethical. 

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1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Not on the same scale, tbh. That would be like saying people who drive cars running on fossil fuels can’t be angry about multinational corporations contributing the overwhelming majority of greenhouse gas emissions while also trying to prevent the implementation of green energy. Same with AI: AI isn’t run a series of small scale individual actors, it’s a coalition of multibillionaires essentially trying to use a technological innovation to corner the market on intellectual property/content.

so billie was right? or wrong? 

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Just now, River said:

so billie was right? or wrong? 

About…what specifically?