Would ARTPOPGa support AI?

[Ultimecia 6,576]

13 minutes ago, Chromanne said:

 

I didn't mean to say Hatsune Miku is AI.  She would've supported any modern technology that popular at that time like Hatsune Miku. If AI were popular in 2013, she would've found a way to utilise it.

The technology behind Vocaloids has never been groundbreaking nor cutting edge. Its popularity was, and still is mainly due to the appeal of the characters associated with the tools.

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21 minutes ago, nATAH said:

i doubt it, the main issue with gen AI is the fact it steals from existing artworks without artist's consent

that absolutely would have been an issue back then

You make a good point, I didn't consider that. I remember that being around the time that people were starting to care about artists' intellectual property

[Chromanne 2,455]

46 minutes ago, Ultimecia said:

The technology behind Vocaloids has never been groundbreaking nor cutting edge. Its popularity was, and still is mainly due to the appeal of the characters associated with the tools.

Whether it's groundbreaking or not, we'll leave it to the tech nerds but it was very much popular and interesting for the general population.

[PartySick 171,414]

3 hours ago, REALITY said:

Since the beginning of her career, she's embraced the intersection of art, music, and technology.

There is no intersection between art and generative AI though.

The former is the expression of human creativity, the latter is just meaningless media, not art at all.

[REALITY 79,811]

5 minutes ago, PartySick said:

There is no intersection between art and generative AI though.

The former is the expression of human creativity, the latter is just meaningless media, not art at all.

I'm not saying that gen AI is art. I'm saying "art" more broadly. As in, she always combines art (visual arts, art movements, etc.), music (her own personal tastes & inspirations), and tech (newly emerging technologies) into whatever she creates.

[Diamond Blood 4,544]

I would hope not 

[imogen2133 355]

No, definitely not and this interview is all the proof you need:

 

[Kayioshka 3,098]

2 hours ago, Ultimecia said:

That is completely false. Vocaloids are not AI.

They're like synths. Voice actors are hired to record every syllable and sound found in the japanese language, and it is these samples that are then assembled together, MANUALLY pitch shifted and modulated to create the singing.

 

My bad, I verified this and yup I was wrong.

It worked like sample exploitation. But there were already the use of  intelligent pitch and timbre automation. Not generative Ai yet.

My point was to prove that Ai existed a way before generative Ai and chatbots, but we used it as tools. It was used in video games, especially in the open-worlds (on this exemple I have no doubts).

[ThisGuyTony 33,957]

5 hours ago, imogen2133 said:

No, definitely not and this interview is all the proof you need:

 

1 hour? Can you summarize for us please 

[Ladle Ghoulash 45,981]

Just now, ThisGuyTony said:

1 hour? Can you summarize for us please 

I’m assuming they’re referring to Gaga calling out the way that the music industry runs off of algorithms, which strips the humanity out of the artistic process in this interview.

[Hadrian 1,970]

idk, I kind of feel like if stuff like MIDjourney, suNO, and Crap-GPT were around during ARTPOP, Gaga would've played around with them for a bit, come to hate them, and then she would've written a Swine-like song dissing generative AI.

[KindnessPunk 2,368]

I don’t think so. Especially when you consider her stance on lip-syncing, and saying things like “talent wins”, then I would hope she wouldn’t support the use of AI in the arts, at least not during ARTPOP. Everything that she presented to us during that era was made by people. Freddie’s fiber optic wig (ARTPOP….get ready for ARTPOP ), volantis, the Koons sculpture, heck even the vomit paint. I know AI wasn’t really a thing back then, but even if it were and she did use it, I think it would just be a slap in the face to the artists who used their hands and talent to help support her vision of merging art and pop. 

[imogen2133 355]

7 hours ago, ThisGuyTony said:

1 hour? Can you summarize for us please 

 

7 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

I’m assuming they’re referring to Gaga calling out the way that the music industry runs off of algorithms, which strips the humanity out of the artistic process in this interview.

Basically this, the whole interview (which I would highly recommend watching) is Gaga talking about how the music industry was moving away from talent driven, creative music/artistry and was becoming more like "fast food" and based off what corporations pushed and algorithms. She says how we collectively don't want the "people in corporate towers" to dictate what music we listen to and how to keep real music and creative artistry alive we must put the power into the hands of artists with talent, musicianship and people with interesting and fresh ideas. The whole thing is Gaga pushing back against art being taken over by the corporate world and her being against shortcuts being used to create music/art so it is easy to see why Gaga there in that era would heavily be against the use of AI in music.

Edited 23 hours ago by imogen2133