Ladle Ghoulash 53,066 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 12 minutes ago, xxxdreams said: Like I'm sorry but I came here with the receipts. You aren't gonna act like I'm contradicting myself or arguing about whatever you've conducted in your head by misinterpreting me when I'm making the exact same sentences I made two days ago, word for word. There is no nuance allowed, apparently. Anyway, glad to see you’ve softened and stopped qualifying the lack of quality in her performances. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxdreams 168 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Anyway, glad to see you’ve softened and stopped qualifying the lack of quality in her performances. The strawman grift when you stop making sense.. Edited March 24 by xxxdreams Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
killme89 1,438 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 I’m sorry maybe I’m alone in this but I will never hate Addison Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,066 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) 4 minutes ago, xxxdreams said: There are 2 kinds of excuses. A neutral or positive excuse or a negative excuse, and I made that clear by saying I never negatively excused that. A neutral or positive excuse would be, “I couldn’t do my homework because my house was on fire” and a negative one would be, “I couldn’t do my homework because my dog was looking sad.” I’m sorry if you expect popstars to be Celine Dion and Whitney Houston level vocalists and dance like Michael Jackson or Britney Spears from day 1. Obviously newer artists will be more inexperienced and have lower quality compared to legends like Britney. Incredible how you talk about a strawman argument considering that’s what you’ve been making. I’m drawing similarities between the attacks made on Britney and Addison, their artistry and Addison’s performances, and suddenly I’m lowering the bar because of my own feelings so that she can step over it and saying that she’s Britney reborn or she’s a Pop icon diva legend queen. My comment was going off of what people said in the post that reminded me of what people said about Britney, and Addison’s relationship with Britney’s artistry which made me post that comment which I meticulously explained but somehow you still missed the mark so here we are. A strawman’s key features are literally distortion, exaggeration and making it easier to attack. Guess which ones you’ve successfully landed on I love how you talk about shell games and shifting goalposts while you’re still talking about the quality of Addison’s performance when I said multiple times that was not what my point was at that point at all and provided the receipts where I’m saying that. I’m sorry but this is literally completely textbook deflection and you’re obviously not arguing in good faith but who cares I’ve exposed at least two blatant contradictions, but if you truly feel the need to die on this hill (while arguing in the worst conceivable faith while having the audacity to be insufferably smug), be my guest lmao. Genuinely kind of funny how pathologically unwilling you are to acknowledge that you shifted your position, ngl. Edited March 24 by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxdreams 168 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) Just now, Ladle Ghoulash said: I’ve exposed at least two blatant contradictions, but if you truly feel the need to die on this hill (while arguing in the worst conceivable faith while having tbf audacity to be insufferably smug), be my guest lmao. Genuinely kind of funny how pathologically unwilling you are to acknowledge that you shifted your position, ngl. Thank you for not answering the single question I asked in the previous comment Edited March 24 by xxxdreams Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxdreams 168 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 7 minutes ago, Bronco said: I aint arguing with you sis why you quoting me. Stick to fighting Patti Lupone That was not directed at you even if I was speaking in second person while quoting you. Just making it clear for outsiders that I literally came with the receipts. Don’t worry LMAO Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,066 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 I thought I was stubborn, but actually feeling decent about my stubbornness after this thread lmao We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,066 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) 3 minutes ago, xxxdreams said: Thank you for not answering the single question I asked in the previous comment I literally answered the questions about the ways in which you excused her poor performance and the ways in which you conceded (not in the third person) that the performance was lackluster. Perfectly fine to evade that (as they’re inconvenient), but let’s be honest. Edited March 24 by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,066 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 6 minutes ago, xxxdreams said: The strawman grift when you stop making sense.. I genuinely love how triggered you got by light ribbing. Honestly kind of remarkable. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxdreams 168 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Just now, Ladle Ghoulash said: I literally answered the questions about the ways in which you excused her poor performance and the ways in which you conceded (not in the third person) that the performance was lackluster. Perfectly fine to evade that (as they’re inconvenient), but let’s be honest. You didn’t point out where I was insisting the bar be lowered so she could step all over it, as that was your own exaggerated comment made up from whoever knows where, and I pointed out that excuses can be valid, and that you were talking about a negative excuse, which being a new artist is a completely valid excuse, and the argument wasn’t about her poor performance before you misunderstood the goalpost, and we had an argument over that, and you’re still adamant on arguing about the performance or whatever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,066 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) 1 minute ago, xxxdreams said: You didn’t point out where I was insisting the bar be lowered so she could step all over it, as that was your own exaggerated comment made up from whoever knows where, and I pointed out that excuses can be valid, and that you were talking about a negative excuse, which being a new artist is a completely valid excuse, and the argument wasn’t about her poor performance before you misunderstood the goalpost, and we had an argument over that, and you’re still adamant on arguing about the performance or whatever. The good sis has never heard of editorialized hyperbole Also, imagine holding riffing on a pop forum to the standard of a formal debate. Take a breather, sister. It’ll be okay. Edited March 24 by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxdreams 168 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: I genuinely love how triggered you got by light ribbing. Honestly kind of remarkable. Mind you I'm behind a computer screen.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,066 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 2 minutes ago, xxxdreams said: You didn’t point out where I was insisting the bar be lowered so she could step all over it, as that was your own exaggerated comment made up from whoever knows where, and I pointed out that excuses can be valid, and that you were talking about a negative excuse, which being a new artist is a completely valid excuse, and the argument wasn’t about her poor performance before you misunderstood the goalpost, and we had an argument over that, and you’re still adamant on arguing about the performance or whatever. I also love that you think *I’m* arguing when I just lightly ribbed you on softening your position about her as a performer and then you bristled, got defensive, doubled down, condescended etc. It was a nothing comment (which I still maintain is accurate) and you started ranting about narrow arguments that I never made about Addison because you seem to insist on talking past people on here lol We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxdreams 168 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: The good sis has never heard of editorialized hyperbole Also, imagine holding riffing on a pop forum to the standard of a formal debate. Take a breather, sister. It’ll be okay. But… you were the one who brought up the talks about strawman arguments two minutes ago Contradiction, much? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,066 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) @xxxdreamsGenuine question: when you made a vague comment about Addison’s detractors being people who would’ve hated Britney, do you think it’s more reasonable to expect that: A.) Detractors would interpret the comparison as an individual and respond on that basis (given that they’re the ones whose opinions you’re trying to characterize) or B.) Ask you how you interpret the similarities between the two? I’ll give you a hint: the answer isn’t B. Edited March 24 by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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